Dev Tracker - Discussion

An extremely low effort option is to check windower resources, since they're usually updated faster:
https://github.com/Windower/Resources/commit/23857355a9e1e0e4481efa169222a476d908cb60

a low-code option is to use ashita's resource functions to dump the items to lua.

resourceextractor is also open source.

so, the knowledge isn't really particularly specific and you don't actually even need to know how the dats are encoded to get at the most current ones w/o dev help. but, i'm guessing whatever tool(s) funk uses to update the wiki aren't public and it doesn't seem like the image updates are automatic because some of the limbus stuff took quite a while to get in there.

they definitely aren't, Funkz updated the text on this because it was fixed in this past update:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Beryllium_Tachi
but the image still isn't

The thumbnail icons are extremely easy to extract from the dats, which are what I was referring to for the limbus gear. Creating the larger picture is likely a little more difficult (it doesn't seem like the client does it directly, given the wiki images combine it onto a single page instead of the client's 2). Curious how they do it; doesn't seem impossible to pull the client's character map and draw the font character by character, though the spacing calculations would take a little tuning.

If it can be drawn in the client, there are a lot of low effort but clunky ways to automate it (use a fixed client size, replace item id, capture that section of screen). If it's being drawn separately, it should already be an image file so maybe the upload process gives them trouble? Might be worth either soliciting help with improving the process if it's currently cumbersome or sharing the tools with a couple trusted people if it's reasonable as is and Funk feels overburdened.

So, just to check my understanding, resourceextractor would spit out the changes in plain text, then we'd need to either input them all manually in the wiki's formatting or have some sort of tool that would generate it for us after having the text from resourceextractor input?

I was suggesting people who want to see the changes can do that. I don't think anyone should be manually editing the wiki with information that can be automatically generated, improvements there should be process improvements.

If the current system for turning resource data into wiki entries relies on heavy manual work, they should solicit help to improve the system so it's not manual. The data is clean enough that it shouldn't need to be.

If it's not a lot of work but Funk is extremely busy, they should consider giving a couple trusted people access. Easy solutions.

Funk does that stuff, leave him to do it and if he is busy he will do it the next day.

The issue is never the ability to do things, it's easy for other people to learn to do things. The problem is they will get tired of it in a month or two, and if you annoy the person that does it regular and has a habit built upon doing it there will end up being nobody that does it at all 6 months from now.

Oh yeah, I wasn't suggesting doing it manually myself or anything. I was just hoping there was a quick way to do it to help out. If it's something that could have a tool made to automate the process, it would be much easier on everyone currently involved (if they don't have one).

"Leave him to do it" would just keep all of the burden on one person, so I was asking if there's a way to lighten the load, whatever shape that took. The whole point of a wiki is to crowdsource information and labor.

One person that likes to do it, and feels a responsibility to do it will ensure it keeps being done. 5 people who can do it usually leads to nobody doing it long-term.

There is a lot of this in the community, and it's not a good idea to mess with it. Funk does that, let him do it.

You really have some weird takes.

It's an automated task, or should be. If it's still considerable work, steps could be taken to fully automate it. At that point, since it's just running a script, you're not going to run out of people willing to log in once and run one process.

Oh, dur, I figured out why it's exactly six. Not even a new exploit, just the same one again.

If it was worth bothering they might actually fix it.

My understanding is that members of the community have expressed interest in helping provide or improve the service and have been met with either resistance or no response from the BG team, such as it is. If those who run the site are unwilling to allow new members to replace the ones who lose interest, there isn't much we can do about it.

And the last racer finally crosses the finish line.

It wasn't worth thinking about. I don't do monthlies and don't care about trust stats so it didn't occur to me immediately.

I forgot the exploit found 5 years ago that I don't use still exists. my bad.

An open exploit that's existed for more than 5 years still unpatched. That's how uninteresting it is, they don't care.

80% of you guys who post here are worse than him, should just admit you've made a boogeyman out of him, and get over your unrequited love.


You don't play the game or give valid input. You just complain and hand wave every update or accomplishment people achieve because this game is a job to you.

lol no
guys a textbook narcissist. When he realized people didnt like him, he wanted to take over head janitor duties on the wiki as a way to say "you're stuck with me". If it was about the community, he wouldnt have deleted a bunch of pages on his way out scurrying over to CatsEyeXI. Then they realized how much of a toxic idiot he is and shunned him too so he tried coming back to retail.

inb4: but you're an *** too

Yup, its who I am. But I dont put myself in positions of authority as a ploy as a means to asset some power over the community.

Spicyryan is an utterly irredeemable bag of ***, even now and probably til the day he dies he would try stab anyone in the back that he thinks may have wronged him if he could (and that means most of the people working on bgwiki). If he could destroy bgwiki in some way as a final FU to the community he hates, he would do it today.

He is a spiteful little shitbag.

Everything that happened to him was his own fault because he is a narcissist, and all it took for him to destroy everything he worked on for the past 10 years was an overweight private server owner verbally felating him for 10 mins.



Hya is/was a close friend of Spicyryan, just saying.

Being friends with someone doesnt imply shared ideology and mutual desires of destruction

If you're implying that by being part of his static for a few months, he is now using me as a tool to damage the community instead of doing it himself, you might want to take off that tin foil hat. You are free to peruse my contributions, and please point out where such an act is taking place. You will instead find lots of work done for Limbus and its associated gear pages, updates to pages as version updates occur, contributions to the new player guide, and even completely re-written guides to replace those that Ryan deleted. Then you can head to the BG discord and see that I'm also providing the front page updates for events as well.

The simple fact that this discourse has been taking place publicly for several days and yet no member of the BG team has chimed in about our feedback or concerns should be enough to support my quoted statement.

I mean this is FFXIAH, is there anything else to do?

You were always liking posts defending him, you have been his number one *** kisser for years. You also complain a whole lot like he used to about them.

If not for them, Spicyrayn would have probably deleted the entire wiki and you know it cause he is a manchild.

If you don't like how they operate, then https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page is there for you.

What's the problem?

they have a discord, if you want to discuss it with them go there and talk to them instead of sniping at them from here?

You have more total contributions than me (2026 Limbus page), but mine go back to 2016, so I'm still the OG (didn't even realize i could see a list of all wiki contributions, neat. Gonna start pulling rank on the big mouths). Joking flex.

//sa
/derail but we wayy past Dev Tracking anyways

2013 here OG triple OG gang gang hold it down

Please provide examples or evidence, because this is all just made up insanity.

Yeah, that's certainly a possibility, though he did have the opportunity to do so at one point and did not.

This is a disingenuous argument, we all know why that site is no longer widely supported or used.

This tells me you're either not reading or just replying to troll. My above statement was that members of the community have tried to ask for change and were met with resistance or no response. The discussion was brought up here, nobody is sniping anyone. But on that note, you're right, this conversation is off topic here and should continue there. I'll see you over there, hopefully you and I can create some positive change together.

This is a kindly reminder that FFXIAH Is not created for your daily attention seeking Drama, Get a life :D, touch grass.

Yeah this is dev tracker discussion... please go yell at each other in some other thread or DMs. It's pages at this point

I agree, but

Just to further damage Hya's reputation, I've shared a bunk bed with him.

Until recently they were following me on Reddit and when I'd post something of my collection he would always comment negative things. I finally found out how to delete "followers" since I never even use Reddit much. You have to admire the lengths some peoples misery and insanity extend to.