Random Politics & Religion #30

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By fonewear 2017-12-06 14:38:30  
Well XI is the better game...so it was the only choice.
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By Valefor.Endoq 2017-12-06 15:04:43  
fonewear said: »
Well XI is the better game...so it was the only choice.
I think Final Fantasy was the only game of the series worth playing.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2017-12-06 15:13:26  
The GOP's war on coal....

Coal CEO: Senate tax plan 'wipes us out'
Coal CEO Robert Murray warns that if the Senate version of tax reform is enacted by President Trump he'll be destroying thousands of coal mining jobs in the process.

CNN

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The tax bill the Senate passed last week would help companies by lowering the corporate tax rate, but it also eliminates some tax breaks.

For coal companies, it could be a double-whammy. It would preserve the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) and impose new limits on the interest payments that businesses can write off. Murray Energy estimates that these changes would raise its tax bill by $60 million per year....
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By Ramyrez 2017-12-06 15:16:23  
Valefor.Endoq said: »
I think Final Fantasy was the only game of the series worth playing.

Yet here you are...
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By Ramyrez 2017-12-06 15:17:21  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
The GOP's war on coal....

Coal CEO: Senate tax plan 'wipes us out'
Coal CEO Robert Murray warns that if the Senate version of tax reform is enacted by President Trump he'll be destroying thousands of coal mining jobs in the process.

CNN

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The tax bill the Senate passed last week would help companies by lowering the corporate tax rate, but it also eliminates some tax breaks.

For coal companies, it could be a double-whammy. It would preserve the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) and impose new limits on the interest payments that businesses can write off. Murray Energy estimates that these changes would raise its tax bill by $60 million per year....

That's a damn shame.

Damn shame.
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By Viciouss 2017-12-06 15:22:58  
I doubt Trump even knows that, he will probably learn it from the article.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2017-12-06 15:26:56  
Not likely. It's hard to actually learn anything from CNN.
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By Zerowone 2017-12-06 15:34:03  
Ramyrez said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
The GOP's war on coal....

Coal CEO: Senate tax plan 'wipes us out'
Coal CEO Robert Murray warns that if the Senate version of tax reform is enacted by President Trump he'll be destroying thousands of coal mining jobs in the process.

CNN

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The tax bill the Senate passed last week would help companies by lowering the corporate tax rate, but it also eliminates some tax breaks.

For coal companies, it could be a double-whammy. It would preserve the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) and impose new limits on the interest payments that businesses can write off. Murray Energy estimates that these changes would raise its tax bill by $60 million per year....

That's a damn shame.

Damn shame.

It’s the AMT that I commented on the in the last thread.

The house bill removed the AMT (which is 20%) allowing corporations after deductions to go far below 20%.

The Senate bill added them back in; sans deductibles. Was one of those margin squiggles at the zero hour, in order to finance “payouts”.

So now they’re capped at 20% minimum, (as it is currently written in the Senate bill). Which for several corporations in many industries equates to a tax increase.

Which is hilariously amateurish of these politicians who bum rushed this bill through the Senate to appease their donors.

Their plan was to reconcile both the House and Senate bill and have it signed by Trump before Christmas. Now they’re going to have to re-draft large swathes of legislation and more than likely won’t get ratification until sometime next year.
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By fonewear 2017-12-06 15:47:50  
Zerowone said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
The GOP's war on coal....

Coal CEO: Senate tax plan 'wipes us out'
Coal CEO Robert Murray warns that if the Senate version of tax reform is enacted by President Trump he'll be destroying thousands of coal mining jobs in the process.

CNN

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The tax bill the Senate passed last week would help companies by lowering the corporate tax rate, but it also eliminates some tax breaks.

For coal companies, it could be a double-whammy. It would preserve the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) and impose new limits on the interest payments that businesses can write off. Murray Energy estimates that these changes would raise its tax bill by $60 million per year....

That's a damn shame.

Damn shame.

It’s the AMT that I commented on the in the last thread.

The house bill removed the AMT (which is 20%) allowing corporations after deductions to go far below 20%.

The Senate bill added them back in; sans deductibles. Was one of those margin squiggles at the zero hour, in order to finance “payouts”.

So now they’re capped at 20% minimum, (as it is currently written in the Senate bill). Which for several corporations in many industries equates to a tax increase.

Which is hilariously amateurish of these politicians who bum rushed this bill through the Senate to appease their donors.

Their plan was to reconcile both the House and Senate bill and have it signed by Trump before Christmas. Now they’re going to have to re-draft large swathes of legislation and more than likely won’t get ratification until sometime next year.

That's pretty good but did internal affairs really know what was going on ?
 
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By Odin.Slore 2017-12-06 15:50:25  
Candlejack said: »
Zerowone said: »
Ramyrez said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
The GOP's war on coal....

Coal CEO: Senate tax plan 'wipes us out'
Coal CEO Robert Murray warns that if the Senate version of tax reform is enacted by President Trump he'll be destroying thousands of coal mining jobs in the process.

CNN

Quote:
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The tax bill the Senate passed last week would help companies by lowering the corporate tax rate, but it also eliminates some tax breaks.

For coal companies, it could be a double-whammy. It would preserve the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) and impose new limits on the interest payments that businesses can write off. Murray Energy estimates that these changes would raise its tax bill by $60 million per year....

That's a damn shame.

Damn shame.

It’s the AMT that I commented on the in the last thread.

The house bill removed the AMT (which is 20%) allowing corporations after deductions to go far below 20%.

The Senate bill added them back in; sans deductibles. Was one of those margin squiggles at the zero hour, in order to finance “payouts”.

So now they’re capped at 20% minimum, (as it is currently written in the Senate bill). Which for several corporations in many industries equates to a tax increase.

Which is hilariously amateurish of these politicians who bum rushed this bill through the Senate to appease their donors.

Their plan was to reconcile both the House and Senate bill and have it signed by Trump before Christmas. Now they’re going to have to re-draft large swathes of legislation and more than likely won’t get ratification until sometime next year.
Been saying it for a while now, most of the congressional repubs and Trump are all escapees from a special education classroom.

And where, pray tell, was a tax reform under obama? He had full control for 2008-2012 yet your dems did nothing but force aca down our throats. Your guys could have had your way with a nice, dem revised tax plan with little to no trouble but alas here we are in 2017 and now your going to complain about the repub tax plan. God damn hypocrites if ya ask me.
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By fonewear 2017-12-06 15:50:47  
Yahoo news...that is when I stopped reading. Yahoo has not been relevant since like 1998.
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By Viciouss 2017-12-06 15:52:33  
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And where, pray tell, was a tax reform under obama? He had full control for 2008-2012.

No, he didn't. Next.
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By Odin.Slore 2017-12-06 15:55:47  
link for acc

3rd line...

The Democratic Party controlled a majority in both chambers for the first time since the end of the 103rd Congress in 1995. Although the Democrats held fewer than 50 Senate seats, they had an operational majority because the two independent senators caucused with the Democrats for organizational purposes. No Democratic-held seats had fallen to the Republican Party in the 2006 elections.[2] Democrat Nancy Pelosi became the first woman Speaker of the House.[3] The House also received the first Muslim (Keith Ellison)[4][5] and Buddhist (Hank Johnson and Mazie Hirono)[6] members of Congress.

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By Viciouss 2017-12-06 15:55:49  
Gotta love that deflection from slore tho.
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By Odin.Slore 2017-12-06 15:56:58  
how is it deflection I just proved it to you!
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By Viciouss 2017-12-06 15:57:21  
Posting a link to the Congress from '07-09, nice.
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By Odin.Slore 2017-12-06 16:00:17  
ok here is 11th congress

the Democratic Party increased its majorities in both chambers, giving President Obama a Democratic majority in the legislature for the first two years of his presidency.

first one was 110th congress second was was 111th.

Dudue how much more proof do you need.
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By clearlyamule 2017-12-06 16:10:48  
We live in a post truth world. Proof is unnecessary
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By Viciouss 2017-12-06 16:12:01  
We are still looking for the proof that Obama had control of Congress through 2012, lol. Of course, most people know the GOP took the House back in the 2010 election, therefore rendering Slore wrong, but that's ok. We live in the post truth world guys.
 
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By Zerowone 2017-12-06 16:16:58  
You want to attack the other because you don’t like them. But if they didn’t attempt tax reform why mention them in the context of proceeding posts?
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By Viciouss 2017-12-06 16:20:35  
Zerowone said: »
You want to attack the other because you don’t like them. But if they didn’t attempt tax reform why mention them in the context of proceeding posts?

To deflect obviously. But he can't even do that without being wrong lol.
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By clearlyamule 2017-12-06 16:23:17  
He was sloppy with the years a bit but that's kind of beside the point. Full control did exist and yes the aca did happen in that time which was a contributing cause of the partial turn around in 2010 elections
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2017-12-06 18:49:57  
clearlyamule said: »
He was sloppy with the years a bit but that's kind of beside the point.
Slore's point is beside the point.
 
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By Nausi 2017-12-06 19:51:17  
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I had to get my license renewed today, about three doors down from the tag agency is a new gun shop.

I need to find time to go look around. >.>
Whatcha got locked away?

I need to get me an assault rifle and trick it out
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