Argosy NQ Vs HQ.

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Argosy NQ vs HQ.
 Phoenix.Capuchin
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By Phoenix.Capuchin 2018-05-07 13:02:13  
Afania said: »
Phoenix.Capuchin said: »
Do you find yourself frequently doing MS Reso zerg fights

Should be using crit dmg augments for ms zerg I think.

If that's so, then yeah go with that... and that further stresses the point of judging for yourself whether HQ Argosy adds enough for each person's WAR use cases to make it worthwhile for you.

If it's just non-MS Reso sets? Well, Argosy+1 may be better - but are you really using WAR for non-MS Reso spam in situations that a couple percentage points increase in Reso damage matters a lot to you? That's something each person has to answer for themselves.

For me personally, I just geared WAR for Reso because I already had most of the appropriate gear and fooled around with Reso already on RUN. It's nice to have WAR available when my group composition/player availability calls for it, but it's not a job I really care about enough to get three HQ abjuration pieces when I feel my money can be better put to use on other jobs I care more about. I'll still try to put effort into my WAR gear (I have a pretty much perfect Montante+1 TP set, and Reso set with all but Argosy+1), but for a player like me the gain is fairly negligible for the benefit it brings me. So, I get not wanting to jump through server transfer hoops just to pay real money and a significant amount of gil for a relatively modest DPS increase.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-05-07 13:02:26  
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Lakshmi.Elidyr said: »
Is it worth me wasting a month of not playing, and jumping and the 40 bucks? (18 with campaign this month.)


how in the world can someone else make a judgment of how worth it is to YOU?

Easily. The answer is no. Pay (unnamed server jumper on this forum) to server jump it for you. You don't have to change servers, he does it weekly to (every?) server.

it is -not- worth the price of the server jump.

If you don't know who it is, he'll waddle his way in here eventually with a gear debate going on.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2018-05-07 13:11:55  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Easily. The answer is no. Pay (unnamed server jumper on this forum) to server jump it for you. You don't have to change servers, he does it weekly to (every?) server.

it is -not- worth the price of the server jump.

If you don't know who it is, he'll waddle his way in here eventually with a gear debate going on.
facts, already spoke with him

(also not quite every server, some of them are completely dead, but if anyone needs something transferred for a couple mil markup over lowest AH price it never hurts to send me a PM)
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2018-05-07 13:32:38  
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Easily. The answer is no. Pay (unnamed server jumper on this forum) to server jump it for you. You don't have to change servers, he does it weekly to (every?) server.

it is -not- worth the price of the server jump.

If you don't know who it is, he'll waddle his way in here eventually with a gear debate going on.
facts, already spoke with him

(also not quite every server, some of them are completely dead, but if anyone needs something transferred for a couple mil markup over lowest AH price it never hurts to send me a PM)

And thank you for that.
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By Asura.Saevel 2018-05-07 16:26:06  
There are several things HQ Argosy brings to the table, first is the large increase in Accuracy which is important because you need your WS and TP sets to be about the same accuracy. Second is the extra STR / DA which is an overall damage increase even if it's not a huge one. Lastly it's the extra Store TP which lets you pile more MA into your TP set for faster WS's. You can't just compare WS set 1 to WS set 2 because the TP sets surrounded those sets would be different and the content / buff later would make a difference. And please don't forget the set bonus, using three pieces gives you +6 DA in set bonus before adding the extra from Path D.
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By Asura.Smoky 2018-05-07 17:03:27  
Answer: get HQ if you love to play WAR/DRK/BST a lot.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2018-05-07 17:29:39  
I think the hq does more dmg then nq... not 100% sure... but maybe
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-05-07 17:34:57  
Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
I think the hq does more dmg then nq... not 100% sure... but maybe
White box. The end. ;)
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By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2018-05-07 17:37:14  
Odin.Drakenv said: »
Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
I think the hq does more dmg then nq... not 100% sure... but maybe
White box. The end. ;)

This is starting to get productive! :D
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-05-07 17:43:55  
Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
I think the hq does more dmg then nq... not 100% sure... but maybe

If it's going to require any effort at all he should spike his controller, break his keyboard in half and then throw himself on the ground and throw a temper tantrum until someone else does it for him.
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By Afania 2018-05-08 10:59:23  
Asura.Saevel said: »
And please don't forget the set bonus, using three pieces gives you +6 DA in set bonus before adding the extra from Path D.

You are right I was in a hurry to head out yesterday so I overlooked some things resulting ws avg lower than they should be. And that includes set bonus, didn't notice war one doesn't have auto set bonus on.

New number 5x NQ: 28326
5x Hq:29426

So about 3.5% difference instead of 2.5% with capped buffs.
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By fonewear 2018-05-08 11:05:55  
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
I think the hq does more dmg then nq... not 100% sure... but maybe

If it's going to require any effort at all he should spike his controller, break his keyboard in half and then throw himself on the ground and throw a temper tantrum until someone else does it for him.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2018-05-08 11:28:22  
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White

Why they gotta be white for... black boxes can dps too #blackboxmatters
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-05-08 11:33:56  
Bismarck.Nickeny said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
White

Why they gotta be white for... black boxes can dps too #blackboxmatters
I vote pink box
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2018-05-08 11:48:19  
Im willing to compromise on purple
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2018-05-08 11:57:35  
Afania said: »
So about 32.33.... repeating of course

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