"Beastmaster Job Point Refinements" In Ver. Update

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"Beastmaster job point refinements" in ver. update
 Shiva.Malthar
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By Shiva.Malthar 2018-10-26 09:15:42  
What unholy hell are they visiting upon us now?!

They've already broken the job by ridiculously reducing sic/ready/reward/etc distance. How much more do they want to break the job now?!
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By dustinfoley 2018-10-26 09:19:26  
making the enmity jp on pet toggle/ replacing it with something
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2018-10-26 09:57:13  
Malther, I don't think even you will be unhappy with this change.

Its to address a concern that players MUST have enmity +20 on pet from job points in order to be Master, in order to upgrade/Augment Aymur/Farsha/Guttler/Tri-Edge from the new augment process.

There was a Japanese player who was specifically NOT getting Master Tamer for this reason. He didn't want his pet to take hate, because pet was in DD mode.

The goal is to preserve playstyle options, not limit them.

Obviously Bst still has interest in pet tanking situations.

I expect the change will be to something like Snarl: Pet Enmity +20.

Although I did post my suggestions for Bst pet enmity changes in the same JP thread as this change was discussed in.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-10-26 11:40:47  
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Malther, I don't think even you will be unhappy with this change.

Its to address a concern that players MUST have enmity +20 on pet from job points in order to be Master, in order to upgrade/Augment Aymur/Farsha/Guttler/Tri-Edge from the new augment process.

There was a Japanese player who was specifically NOT getting Master Tamer for this reason. He didn't want his pet to take hate, because pet was in DD mode.

The goal is to preserve playstyle options, not limit them.

Obviously Bst still has interest in pet tanking situations.

I expect the change will be to something like Snarl: Pet Enmity +20.

Although I did post my suggestions for Bst pet enmity changes in the same JP thread as this change was discussed in.
This sounds good so basically he didn’t research it?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2018-10-26 12:15:23  
Odin.Drakenv said: »
This sounds good so basically he didn’t research it?

I don't know what the actual new job point category will be. SE hasn't announced that. I'm only guessing.

However, I do know exactly what started it. And I think have a pretty good guess on what will replace it.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-10-26 12:18:01  
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Odin.Drakenv said: »
This sounds good so basically he didn’t research it?

I don't know what the actual new job point category will be. SE hasn't announced that. I'm only guessing.

However, I do know exactly what started it. And I think have a pretty good guess on what will replace it.
Makes a lot of sense.
By Jetackuu 2018-10-26 12:40:00  
People are still bitching about the distance thing?
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-10-26 12:53:10  
Jetackuu said: »
People are still bitching about the distance thing?
Unsure why I keep seeing JP players go /nin and kill fine. Or ones that READ the log going in and out at the right times killing just fine.
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By Bahamut.Inspectorgadget 2018-10-26 12:57:15  
2101 Job Points needed to be able to get invited into an Omen or Dynamis run to unlock AF/Relic.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2018-10-26 13:01:23  
Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
2101 Job Points needed to be able to get invited into an Omen or Dynamis run to unlock AF/Relic.
But your username says your on Bahamut, not Asura....

Seriously pet jobs destroy Omen. Completely and Utterly.

They do just great in Divergence also. Not sure what world you're living in.
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By Odin.Drakenv 2018-10-26 13:03:23  
A very confused world it seems. Or the belief they made a joke.
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By Jetackuu 2018-10-26 13:07:50  
Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
2101 Job Points needed to be able to get invited into an Omen or Dynamis run to unlock AF/Relic.

lol, Spyxi has been to plenty Omen as bst.
By Jetackuu 2018-10-26 13:09:20  
Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk said: »
Bahamut.Inspectorgadget said: »
2101 Job Points needed to be able to get invited into an Omen or Dynamis run to unlock AF/Relic.
But your username says you're on Bahamut, not Asura....

Seriously pet jobs destroy Omen. Completely and Utterly.

They do just great in Divergence also. Not sure what world you're living in.

ftfy and he is on Bahamut.
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By Bahamut.Inspectorgadget 2018-10-26 13:20:18  
I was being funny. Beastmaster is a fine job.
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By Asura.Smoky 2018-10-26 13:22:33  
Haven't played BST or actually seen a BST in forever. Hope this update hooks it up with something good.
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By Asura.Sirris 2018-10-26 14:36:52  
Jetackuu said: »
People are still bitching about the distance thing?

The distance nerf didn't really have the desired effect. People went from zerging with BSTs to zerging with SMNs even more quickly and safely. The only result is that a few diehards stuck with the job (it does work for some Omen bosses, and it's great solo) but no one wants beastmaster for group content.

I don't feel like I'm bitching, just pointed out that the result of the change didn't achieve anything constructive.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2018-10-26 14:38:03  
Asura.Sirris said: »
The result of the change didn't achieve anything constructive.

Literally every single thing square tries to do summed up into one sentence.
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By Jetackuu 2018-10-26 14:42:01  
Asura.Sirris said: »
Jetackuu said: »
People are still bitching about the distance thing?

The distance nerf didn't really have the desired effect. People went from zerging with BSTs to zerging with SMNs even more quickly and safely. The only result is that a few diehards stuck with the job (it does work for some Omen bosses, and it's great solo) but no one wants beastmaster for group content.

I don't feel like I'm bitching, just pointed out that the result of the change didn't achieve anything constructive.

Oh it certainly didn't and even as a person who uses bst a lot with an alt (like fulltime on that alt) and used to triple farm dyna with it (when it was still time locked to 1/day) it's just more an annoyance than anything. I am still guilty of shunning bsts for group content, even Omen (sorry Spy).
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2018-10-26 15:05:17  
Jetackuu said: »
Oh it certainly didn't and even as a person who uses bst a lot with an alt (like fulltime on that alt) and used to triple farm dyna with it (when it was still time locked to 1/day) it's just more an annoyance than anything. I am still guilty of shunning bsts for group content, even Omen (sorry Spy).

Bst can AoE Omen down very fast. getting thru each floor is fast.
Good bst is Very reliable for making fusion skillchain on Kei for mages to burst off. Or make fusion and have rng close light.

Bst is good dd on any Other Omen Boss. Fu is pretty much setup as a pet zerg fight.

I haven't thought to try solo'ing any omen midbosses on bst though. Pup is too easy to OD them.

And yes, I'm one of those said Bst Diehards incase there was any doubt in anyone's mind.
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By Draylo 2018-10-26 16:34:56  
I think we must delete BST
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xilkk 2018-10-26 17:59:25  
Draylo said: »
I think we must delete BST
TROLL !!

;P
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By Bahamut.Negan 2018-10-26 18:27:17  
GOTTA chime in on BST's in Omen! Best kept secret out there I think. Unagihito showed me the ways!
By Jetackuu 2018-10-26 18:44:50  
Bahamut.Negan said: »
GOTTA chime in on BST's in Omen! Best kept secret out there I think. Unagihito showed me the ways!

But do you know da wae?

Una!

Looks like I may have to get some -dt for my pet and alt after all :D
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