The Last Dance III: A Dancer's Guide *New*

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By trinironnie 2025-12-28 12:03:16  
What are the MUST have AF / RELIC / EMP pieces? Not seeing it on the guides. ChatGpt recommended AF Feet, Relic Body, Empy Head, Empy Hands.
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By Bismarck.Drakelth 2025-12-28 12:28:47  
trinironnie said: »
What are the MUST have AF / RELIC / EMP pieces? Not seeing it on the guides. ChatGpt recommended AF Feet, Relic Body, Empy Head, Empy Hands.
I have everything +3 or better but af legs and relic hands are on slips
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2025-12-28 14:24:47  
My opinion

Empyrean
MUST: Head, feet, legs (PDL* but depends on WS and Nyame rank; doubles as a high accuracy piece).
NICE TO HAVE: Hands for RF
OPTIONAL: Body as a low haste piece.

Relic
MUST: Head for Waltz/Trance, Legs for jig and WSD
NICE TO HAVE: Body for NFR but it doesn't need to be ranked higher than +1 I think for the bonus
OPTIONAL: hands for Fan Dance, feet used to be good but Empyrean are more versatile even with the lower STP. Perhaps +5 bring it back to life

Artifact
MUST: Body for Waltz, hands +4 are BIS for most WS
NICE TO HAVE: Head for Samba duration, but doesn't need to be upgraded past +1. Also doubles as a step accuracy piece, but that's kind of a misnomer nowadays.
OPTIONAL: feet for jig or waltz, but neither are needed for either purpose and waltz sets are better off defensively not utilizing these
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By gargurty 2026-01-03 04:41:36  
question: is it wise to invest in a setan for steps? and would you main hand it or off hand it? Also what path do you take it?
Dont see much info on the weapon or i just overlook it maybe :)
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-01-03 05:29:18  
gargurty said: »
question: is it wise to invest in a setan for steps? and would you main hand it or off hand it? Also what path do you take it?
Dont see much info on the weapon or i just overlook it maybe :)

The amount of TP you spend on steps at endgame is totally irrelevant, so using it as an offhand is a HORRIBLE value proposition.

If you're going to use it as a MH, you won't be caring about the step TP consumption either (see above), but it could be alright. It will never be able to compete with a proper REMA though.

Path B is a nice way to cap SB, if you need that for some reason. I haven't personally found there's a place that justifies this.

Path C is good to reduce the cooldown of Climactic Flourish, the main DPS tool, and Reverse Flourish (minor, but it exists). It can be an OK weapon for Aminon, since that fight is based around these JA. Keep in mind though, with WC/RD/Grand Pas, you will likely not be able to get as much out of this cooldown reduction as you might expect/hope.

It's an OK starter weapon, but doesn't see much/any use in endgame, given all weapons are available to you.
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By gargurty 2026-01-03 05:40:50  
cool thanks for that info. I'll skip on it then.
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By Asura.Melliny 2026-01-03 09:08:31  
There are only niche situations where you wouldn’t want to use cento offhand, and even then there’s a good argument to just stick with canto anyway.
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By Taint 2026-01-03 11:39:27  
Path B with Centovente is pretty potent, but I wouldn't use it over Prime or Emp.
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By trinironnie 2026-01-04 16:07:32  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
My opinion

Empyrean
MUST: Head, feet, legs (PDL* but depends on WS and Nyame rank; doubles as a high accuracy piece).
NICE TO HAVE: Hands for RF
OPTIONAL: Body as a low haste piece.

Relic
MUST: Head for Waltz/Trance, Legs for jig and WSD
NICE TO HAVE: Body for NFR but it doesn't need to be ranked higher than +1 I think for the bonus
OPTIONAL: hands for Fan Dance, feet used to be good but Empyrean are more versatile even with the lower STP. Perhaps +5 bring it back to life

Artifact
MUST: Body for Waltz, hands +4 are BIS for most WS
NICE TO HAVE: Head for Samba duration, but doesn't need to be upgraded past +1. Also doubles as a step accuracy piece, but that's kind of a misnomer nowadays.
OPTIONAL: feet for jig or waltz, but neither are needed for either purpose and waltz sets are better off defensively not utilizing these
Bismarck.Drakelth said: »
trinironnie said: »
What are the MUST have AF / RELIC / EMP pieces? Not seeing it on the guides. ChatGpt recommended AF Feet, Relic Body, Empy Head, Empy Hands.
I have everything +3 or better but af legs and relic hands are on slips

Thank you :)
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By Asura.Zodiarchy 2026-01-18 23:00:43  
Any thoughts on the new Duty Limbus set for DNC?
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By SimonSes 2026-01-19 09:55:13  
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Any thoughts on the new Duty Limbus set for DNC?

Whole set is pretty much bis for DNC tp set.
Even with Hoxne Ampulla 3/5 you would want to wear legs, body and head.

It's worth to point out, DNC Ampulla set has only 13% faster TP gain than 5/5 Duty with minimum Saber Dance's DA value.

Null Shawl will offset lower meva on the set and if you want, you can also use Null Belt, which will also help with accuracy on Centovente. Just remember you will need haste samba then (or Alabaster earring), because 5/5 duty set is 23% haste.
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By Asura.Roughy 2026-02-18 01:43:17  
Would anyone mind showing me their BIS ws set for sortie bosses for rudras?
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-02-18 04:55:52  
This is what I use:

ItemSet 400410
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2026-02-18 06:14:50  
I think it's easy to justify swapping Kentarch Belt +1 and Charis Feather into that set, assuming Climactic.

Less sure:
Regal vs. Epa ring
With Grand Pas and Climactic, Fatality Belt vs. Kentarch +1 (galaxy brain)

If you're not attack capped, obviously the set should change even more.
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By Asura.Melliny 2026-02-18 06:59:11  
I think kentarch belt +1 is simply better than sailfi belt +1 in all cases. Both ruthless stroke and rudra's storm have dex mods but neither has a strength mod. The 10 dex on kentarch +1 is better for both weaponskills whether climactic is active or not.

For non attack capped you would use cath palug stone and nyame legs. Regal ring is probably better than epa ring at this point, but it's more of a wash than anything. Not much difference either way between the two.

Also for climactic you use charis feather.
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By Asura.Roughy 2026-02-18 11:48:20  
Is that about the same if you have Mpu gandring?
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By dontclickme 2026-02-18 11:58:44  
Asura.Roughy said: »
Is that about the same if you have Mpu gandring?

yes

Asura.Melliny said: »
I think kentarch belt +1 is simply better than sailfi belt +1 in all cases. Both ruthless stroke and rudra's storm have dex mods...
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-02-18 12:09:14  
Asura.Melliny said: »
For non attack capped you would use cath palug stone and nyame
Cath Palug over R30 Coiste Bodhar? D:

I agree with the Kentarch sentiment, either way.
And for the earrings, if you have a "no PDL" set, then I found Mache +1, Sherida and Ishvara are all incredibly close to each other.
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By dontclickme 2026-02-18 12:15:28  
Asura.Sechs said: »
Cath Palug over R30 Coiste Bodhar? D:

for ruthless, yeah. it has a 25% agi modifier.
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By Asura.Melliny 2026-02-18 12:28:53  
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Cath Palug over R30 Coiste Bodhar? D:

I was referring to ruthless. Rudra's only has a dex mod, but ruthless is both dex and agi, so if it's a non climactic weaponskill cath palug stone is best for ruthless and coiste bodhar is best for rudra's
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By Asura.Sechs 2026-02-18 14:20:42  
I apologize, I thought we were discussing Rudra D:
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By Asura.Roughy 2026-02-18 16:25:32  
I am sorry to keep asking dumb questions but what about for TP sets? I pretty closely match that ws set but ive been rather confused about what I should be tping in? Just like the normal go to set for tping in sortie?

Thank you in advanced :D
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By Asura.Melliny 2026-02-18 16:57:19  
ItemSet 393475

However, once they're fully upgraded you could fit all 5 of the duty pieces into the set. I think I'd probably keep the empyrean feet though, but in order of priority the Duty set is

Body --> Head/legs ------> Hands -----------> Feet

Body Head and Legs are easily the biggest upgrades, but hands and feet are worth considering once you get to that point too.
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By Odin.Lawii 2026-02-18 17:05:33  
Asura.Melliny said: »
ItemSet 393475

However, once they're fully upgraded you could fit all 5 of the duty pieces into the set. I think I'd probably keep the empyrean feet though, but in order of priority the Duty set is

Body --> Head/legs ------> Hands -----------> Feet

Body Head and Legs are easily the biggest upgrades, but hands and feet are worth considering once you get to that point too.


This was pretty much the same conclusion I came to as well. I am doing a bit different upgrade order though. I am going Legs > Body/Hands > Head.
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By Asura.Roughy 2026-02-18 17:19:24  
OMG thank you so much for the advice! I can't wait to try it out tonight! Yall are the best.
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By NemsEngelchen 2026-02-19 02:25:06  
As soemone looking to be dancer maybe and not planning on sortie weapon. How is mythic considered? I'm not a fan of making empys.
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By Nariont 2026-02-19 03:15:00  
probably performs very well with hoxne boosting the number of hits on kleos up/removing the need for AM3 upkeep but otherwise pretty okay, PK spams decent with striking flourish putting crit on 2 hits but iirc rudra/ruthless spam is still favored due to high WSD/climatic boost
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