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Frog Ambuscade V1
By ScaevolaBahamut 2019-08-07 08:55:39
We already know for certain if you have support buffs you get hammered.
But is it number of total buffs? Could a cor roll himself only/bard sing himself only and still cause hammer? could it be 10+ any buff on total characters? Can you do only hastega and not get hammered? will any one buff on any one character cause it? (non-maneuver)
No one bothered to figure any of that out.
I remember playing around with this with Trusts. Only having Sylvie out using her geomancy (no rolls, no problem jobs) caused a hammer. Similarly, having no buffs and Zeid II being the only problem job caused a hammer.
It's pretty clearly just a binary, where if you have any of the jobs or buff types covered you get hammered and if not you don't.
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2019-08-07 09:03:59
Quote: do people really care whether runs take 3 mins or 6 mins?
Probably not but what else are we gonna talk about
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By Lakshmi.Cortez 2019-08-07 12:15:21
Guys, guys here is the winner winner chicken dinner setup for this ambu. Also don't judge my recording skills, because this is my first time recording so be nice! My setup is MNK BRD COR WHM RDM SMN and this has been my most efficient setup for this ambu. In fact in this recording this was the fastest kill so far, roughly 1 minute lol. Relevant part starts at 1:28 or so, Fight at 2:55. We get unlucky in silencing this sucker on this run but he melted.
PS: I gotta learn how to record on single window :/, Also eff yeah subtle blow.
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By malakef 2019-08-07 12:19:03
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By kishr 2019-08-07 13:40:27
Run1 cor1 smn4, all smn afac, 1 smn mew afac. 3smn afac volt. Yw
rune uses "sulpor x3" "one for all" and all "wards", near pt before pulling.
then rune pulls, and afac makes it killed in under 20sec.
Edit: if it goes south for any reason, the rune still lives through it.
Smn should at start rr themselves with Cait.
Rune kites and smn apogee volt. Win
Lakshmi.Buukki
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2019-08-07 13:42:48
That's Overkill for a monster with like 500k HP.
By kishr 2019-08-07 13:45:00
Frog dinner
By day1 2019-08-07 13:48:44
Dear Mr Grim,
when does the student become the teacher?
Setup: DRK, COR, BRD, Trustx3 (healerx2, KoH)
45 seconds after buffing. VD
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p.s. 1HR zerg so it's not a real run lol.
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By kishr 2019-08-07 13:52:02
That^ or
Other method is mewing and rudra rudra.
Run rdm cor smn(mew) thf thf
By Senaki 2019-08-07 15:17:30
That^ or
Other method is mewing and rudra rudra.
Run rdm cor thf thf thf
But how do you stop the Hammer from killing you?
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-07 15:19:25
Cor and/or rdm or even THF sub smn. mew cannot miss.
Hell if you're really good you could pull it off with just that many despoils.
By tyalangan 2019-08-07 15:24:39
I know we’re mostly talking about VD on here but if I were to try lower tiers how many buffs is the maximum to avoid death?
I don’t have any SMNers (so no Cait Sith) but hypothetically could I just run Pro, Shell. Honor, March, and survive? It would be a long shlog but should prevent adds and just quickly reapply those two songs on dispel?
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-07 15:29:03
I think 3 buffs will kill you I can't remember for certain though
I know SMN with nothing but avatars favor can get killed depending on their idle HP set
By tyalangan 2019-08-07 15:33:35
Well then. Wotg post missions here I come.
By ScaevolaBahamut 2019-08-07 15:38:24
I know we’re mostly talking about VD on here but if I were to try lower tiers how many buffs is the maximum to avoid death?
I don’t have any SMNers (so no Cait Sith) but hypothetically could I just run Pro, Shell. Honor, March, and survive? It would be a long shlog but should prevent adds and just quickly reapply those two songs on dispel?
I feel like you would be much better off just getting Haste 2 to avoid hammer entirely and calling it a day at that point since IIRC he can't use Death under Providence below VD?
EDIT: Frogs can be slept so your Bard would still have something to do.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-07 15:42:27
I mean, I would just drop some automatons on it tbh. You can pull it off naked with like a mil in attachments.
nin/dnc/mnk/thf with haste2 is a good answer too. I know its blasphemous to say this but you CAN melee it just fine without the brd cor geo crutch. it's only 500k hp. (less on not VD)
BUT. Wotg earring is good enough that wotg missions should be a high priority anyway
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By kishr 2019-08-07 15:49:10
6bst yes!!!! Make beast master great again!!!
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By tyalangan 2019-08-07 16:18:16
I mean, I would just drop some automatons on it tbh. You can pull it off naked with like a mil in attachments.
nin/dnc/mnk/thf with haste2 is a good answer too. I know its blasphemous to say this but you CAN melee it just fine without the brd cor geo crutch. it's only 500k hp. (less on not VD)
BUT. Wotg earring is good enough that wotg missions should be a high priority anyway
Yeah they all have earring. Forgot it is same mission quest. Thought I had to do more for caitsith
Quote: I feel like you would be much better off just getting Haste 2 to avoid hammer entirely and calling it a day at that point since IIRC he can't use Death under Providence below VD?
I said BRD haste because that would be faster to reapply since it’s aoe. I’d have thf thf COR BRD whm. Throw on two songs and go back to pound town. BRD would dd too
By Pilipinoboi 2019-08-07 17:09:30
VD - PLD/WAR, SMN (Shiva buff most important), RDM, COR (Tact + Allies or Save TP one as roll combo), WAR, SAM.(All DD /THF)
PLD runs in, holds frog in the middle, doesn't engage. Just voke/flash etc. - SMN spams Mewing Lullaby. (RDM of course debuffs frog etc.)
When Tact Roll gives TP: DD will - COR Sneak Attack -> Savage Blade -> WAR SA + Mistral Axe -> SAM -> SA Fudo. Disengage.
Rinse and repeat, add TA + WS behind tank if needed. No hammer will go off, each WS interval with SC is about 30-35% HP. 0 deaths, just a little over 6 min~ from start to finish.
Good luck!
By ScaevolaBahamut 2019-08-07 17:14:17
I mean, I would just drop some automatons on it tbh. You can pull it off naked with like a mil in attachments.
nin/dnc/mnk/thf with haste2 is a good answer too. I know its blasphemous to say this but you CAN melee it just fine without the brd cor geo crutch. it's only 500k hp. (less on not VD)
BUT. Wotg earring is good enough that wotg missions should be a high priority anyway
Yeah they all have earring. Forgot it is same mission quest. Thought I had to do more for caitsith
Quote: I feel like you would be much better off just getting Haste 2 to avoid hammer entirely and calling it a day at that point since IIRC he can't use Death under Providence below VD?
I said BRD haste because that would be faster to reapply since it’s aoe. I’d have thf thf COR BRD whm. Throw on two songs and go back to pound town. BRD would dd too
Yeah it'd be quick to get back up but you'd have to get proshell back up too and it's just a lot of damage and aspir it doesn't sound like you have to deal with. Feels very three left turns to me but IDK, give it a shot
By clearlyamule 2019-08-07 17:27:12
Quote: do people really care whether runs take 3 mins or 6 mins?
Probably not but what else are we gonna talk about Talk about 2 min runs instead? Friggin 3 min scrubs
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By Asura.Zidaner 2019-08-07 20:32:02
3 smns cor rdm pld/run. smns rotate volt/mew. rdm has to be able to land silence. takes all of 4-5 minutes. smns can rotate 1 hrs to speed things up but not needed.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-07 20:36:11
If you take 3 smn it better not take 5 damn minutes.
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By Asura.Zidaner 2019-08-07 20:49:22
This method does not require 1 hours. If the smns all 1 hour its dead in 15-20 seconds.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-07 21:12:24
Delicious 2m mercs. RDM Y U So OP.
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By Zeyn 2019-08-07 21:43:18
Has anyone tried N or even D with a standard melee dps pt? Avoid hammer by not going superbuffed, just 3x dps, tank, whm, rdm.
I know there are a *lot* of dps jobs that are hating this month right now because this post is saying you *need* smn for this Ambuscade. Do you really? What are some alternate party options?
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-08-07 21:44:17
You can very much do that on even VD. Just go without cor brd geo.
Kinda blows if adds pop (they will) it's easy, but slow.
By clearlyamule 2019-08-07 21:55:11
Has anyone tried N or even D with a standard melee dps pt? Avoid hammer by not going superbuffed, just 3x dps, tank, whm, rdm.
I know there are a *lot* of dps jobs that are hating this month right now because this post is saying you *need* smn for this Ambuscade. Do you really? What are some alternate party options? I mean look up. This month is literally designed for pups. I wouldn't be surprised if a well geared one could eventually solo VD
Frog; IT. IS. IMMUNE. TO. GEOMANCY.
https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/51619/ambuscade-vol1-november-2017/
Quenching Hammer owns your life. Pets or Erinys style THF.
I would update the OP, but, tbh, the whole strat is covered in that one sentence. That really is it. If you buff, you die. So, the result is pup, conduit, or gravity SaRudra with some tp stealin'
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