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By agerasia 2019-09-02 17:45:05  
So I found this..
Acer 15.6 FHD Laptop, 7th Quad Core AMD A12-9700P 2.5GHz, 8GB DDR4, 1TB HDD 128GB SSD Hybrid, AMD Radeon R8 M445DX 2GB Dedicated Graphics, 802.11ac, Bluetooth, HDMI, Windows 10 (Renewed) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PMSYPQH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_cRzBDb7SV9R1S.

I know it was said the hybrid SSD wouldn't be as good but is it going to make a HUGE difference? This is renewed, the new one was $510. Wouldn't mind saving that $110 if refurbished isn't going to be an issue.
By Jetackuu 2019-09-02 18:10:35  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
Never once said you shouldn't have it. Looks like I said you don't need it at a minimum. The OP was already worried about funds, why tell him something more expensive should be his minimum that he aims for?

A distinction without a difference. Nobody and I repeat nobody should have a spinning disk as their OS drive, to say otherwise is moronic.
By Jetackuu 2019-09-02 18:11:40  
agerasia said: »
So I found this..
Acer 15.6 FHD Laptop, 7th Quad Core AMD A12-9700P 2.5GHz, 8GB DDR4, 1TB HDD 128GB SSD Hybrid, AMD Radeon R8 M445DX 2GB Dedicated Graphics, 802.11ac, Bluetooth, HDMI, Windows 10 (Renewed) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PMSYPQH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_cRzBDb7SV9R1S.

I know it was said the hybrid SSD wouldn't be as good but is it going to make a HUGE difference? This is renewed, the new one was $510. Wouldn't mind saving that $110 if refurbished isn't going to be an issue.

I'll repeat: Acer is garbage. You're better off saving a bit of money and not buying a steaming pile and actually getting something that will last a bit.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2019-09-02 18:55:16  
Jetackuu said: »
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
Never once said you shouldn't have it. Looks like I said you don't need it at a minimum. The OP was already worried about funds, why tell him something more expensive should be his minimum that he aims for?

A distinction without a difference. Nobody and I repeat nobody should have a spinning disk as their OS drive, to say otherwise is moronic.

Speaking like everyone has extra cash laying around is moronic. Jesus Christ the game is 16 years old, it doesn't take much to run FFXI smoothly. He's not asking for a full HD game or a top of the line laptop, he's asking to run FFXI smoothly.
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By Caerda 2019-09-02 20:10:23  
I recommend a Mr. Coffee maker, it should run it with no problems.
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By Jetackuu 2019-09-02 20:43:21  
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Bismarck.Firedemon said: »
Never once said you shouldn't have it. Looks like I said you don't need it at a minimum. The OP was already worried about funds, why tell him something more expensive should be his minimum that he aims for?

A distinction without a difference. Nobody and I repeat nobody should have a spinning disk as their OS drive, to say otherwise is moronic.

Speaking like everyone has extra cash laying around is moronic. Jesus Christ the game is 16 years old, it doesn't take much to run FFXI smoothly. He's not asking for a full HD game or a top of the line laptop, he's asking to run FFXI smoothly.

Never did, I'm just saying buying a computer with a spinning disk (for the OS) is stupid and if you still suggest it in 2019 you don't know what you're talking about. They shouldn't even have it as an option.

As for "run XI smoothly" you can't even run Windows smoothly on a spinning disk, get a clue or with the damn times.
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By agerasia 2019-09-02 21:03:20  
2019 ASUS 15.6" High Performance Laptop Computer, AMD Quad-Core A12-9720P Processor up to 3.6GHz, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 128GB SSD, AMD Radeon R7 Graphics, WiFi, Bluetooth, USB 3.0, HDMI, Windows 10 Home https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QR3SDP4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_WICBDbJBVQ12N

It doesn't have the 256gb SSD but would it run the game smoothly?
126gb should be enough for windows 10 and FFXI without slowing anything down?

Also, its kind of contradicting. It says integrated graphics in 1 area of the listing but dedicated in another. Which would it be?
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By Caerda 2019-09-02 21:53:33  
Its integrated.
By Jetackuu 2019-09-02 21:59:31  
It MAY run it ok, without trying the particular chipset it is difficult to tell. I love the marketing though, nothing under $400 is "high performance."
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By agerasia 2019-09-03 07:30:05  
Ok how about this.. think it has everything listed lol little more than I wanted to spend but I think I can get by with it...

DELL INSPIRON 15.6" LAPTOP: INTEL CORE I5 , 8GB MEMORY,NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 TI , 256GB SOLID STATE DRIVE , BLACK https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073VSSNZH/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_cXLBDbJGBG1GV
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By Leviathan.Andret 2019-09-03 10:25:25  
Have you considered buying a used laptop?

That one isn't bad btw. You will probably need $100 more for a bigger SSD.
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By agerasia 2019-09-03 10:30:30  
Yeah I've been searching a lot, new, renewed or used just haven't found one very cheap with the 256gb SSD and a dedicated graphics card. Maybe there isn't going to be a cheap one with everything I'm looking for but I'll keep searching and if worst thing just wait and save more money.
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By agerasia 2019-09-03 11:15:22  
Lenovo Ideapad L340 Gaming Laptop, 15.6 Inch FHD (1920 X 1080) IPS Display, Intel Core i5-9300H Processor, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB Nvme SSD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650, Windows 10, 81LK00HDUS, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VC55LF5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_tePBDbV88KZB7


A little cheaper and seems better than the above listed Dell, any thoughts?
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By Bahamut.Negan 2019-09-03 12:59:40  
agerasia said: »
Lenovo Ideapad L340 Gaming Laptop, 15.6 Inch FHD (1920 X 1080) IPS Display, Intel Core i5-9300H Processor, 8GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB Nvme SSD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650, Windows 10, 81LK00HDUS, Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07VC55LF5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_tePBDbV88KZB7


A little cheaper and seems better than the above listed Dell, any thoughts?
Looks like a solid choice to me! Interested on what others think
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By Leviathan.Isiolia 2019-09-03 13:04:12  
It looks great for the money.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2019-09-03 13:07:40  
Only 12 hrs left on that deal tho! /panic
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By agerasia 2019-09-03 13:10:54  
Bahamut.Negan said: »
Only 12 hrs left on that deal tho! /panic

Taru /panic
Yes, I think it's going to be the one I end up getting. Definitely don't want to pay $900+ for it. Lol

Only thing that's getting me is this nmve ssd, but from what I'm reading it's a newer/better form of SSD. I just wish I knew more about this stuff!
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By Bahamut.Negan 2019-09-03 13:11:50  
agerasia said: »
Bahamut.Negan said: »
Only 12 hrs left on that deal tho! /panic

Yes, I think it's going to be the one I end up getting. Definitely don't want to pay $900+ for it. Lol

Only thing that's getting me is this nmve ssd, but from what I'm reading it's a newer/better form of SSD. I just wish I knew more about this stuff!
I dont know too much about it either, I think Jet recommended it tho!
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By agerasia 2019-09-03 13:42:49  
Welp I missed that one. Someone snagged it before I did! Lol
The search continues!
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By Leviathan.Isiolia 2019-09-03 14:33:24  
Might be a touch beyond your price point:

HP Omen 15t (sale, but they're always on sale) for $749

Promo code 5GAMER at checkout knocks it down to $713.

(edit: noticed they do still have their Pavilion gaming machine too, which is here. Big downgrade to the GPU though. Still, $600ish with that promo applied).

A bit more money for a smaller SSD, but otherwise similar specs to the Lenovo. I would assume better overall build quality though. Additionally, while I'm not sure on the 2019 versions, Omens in the past have not used Optimus graphics, making dgVoodoo less of a necessity (it just uses the nVidia card all the time, no need to force it).

Just in general, the $600-750 range tends to be where the cheap gaming laptop range lives. Quality may vary, but you can tend to find something with decent enough specs, and they'll run most any game on the market nicely. Dell G3 would be the current version of that (old model) Inspiron one you linked, which is around $700 starting, less if on sale (likely better to bump up to the G5 if looking at those though). You can likely find last year's version of those closer to $600 on eBay, still brand new.

If you want to go much lower than that and/or buy a higher tier product, as has been mentioned, shop for a used machine. Unfortunately, the commonly stocked refurb machines tend to be corporate models that lack good GPUs.
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By agerasia 2019-09-03 17:28:47  
Thank you, everyone, all the info has been extremely helpful. I almost went with a pavilion but ended up getting approved through Affirm on Walmart to finance, with very little interest, one with similar specs to the Lenovo I missed out on earlier! Win, win :D


This will also match my desktop and all so that's another plus!

MSI GL63 9SC-063 15.6" Gaming Laptop, Intel Core i5-9300H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650, 8GB, 512GB NVMe SSD
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By Asura.Yojimmbo 2019-09-03 17:38:32  
agerasia said: »
I am looking to buy a laptop to run FFXI smoothly
Iirc FFXI was meant to be run on Windows XP. Just about any modern laptop will run it. I highly recommend multi-core with a decent graphics card. I run ffxi off an 10' or 11' HP Pavilion with quad-core, which for this game at least is next door to overkill. If it's strictly for FFXI, any recent laptop will do. This is one of the few mmo's that doesn't require building a gaming station to play.
Edit: didn't see the OP arrived at their conclusion. womp womp
By Jetackuu 2019-09-04 00:09:56  
Um, no. You're better off with a single core, and no "any recent laptop" will not do.