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Packetgate - Results
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-27 16:08:21
Asura.Aquatiq posts on here, did he get banned?
Judging by his page, yes, PM button is gone, so, can't ask him directly. He bought a "bunch" of the medals. Would love to hear from him.
Shiva.Thorny
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2777
By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-27 16:35:19
His page says 'it's been real' and he bought the most of anyone from my taru, maybe not thousands but definitely a lot. I'd say if he's not on within a week and doesn't respond it's not a leap to assume he was banned.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-27 16:38:28
That's the thing, he was actively posting, and just dips out, that's lame. How about some resolution. Was it because of the medals, or was it the "rmt sale" he "pretended" to "intercept" was he duping too? It requires answers!
always left half jacked off. never any closure. I want the STF to post names.
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By Draylo 2019-11-27 16:41:08
Why would they ban someone who made purchases from a bazaar? Never even heard of that, so I doubt its that.
Shiva.Thorny
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2777
By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-27 16:43:07
Why would they ban someone who made purchases from a bazaar? Never even heard of that, so I doubt its that.
They will ban a person for having a large amount of duped goods that were moved from the duper, because there is no way to guarantee the dupe mule wasn't him.
Otherwise, I could have just sold myself all the medals on the cheap and kept them forever. It's easy enough to mask IP/payment/etc. So, even though he isn't me, by buying as many as he did he likely got himself caught up in it.
That's the thing, he was actively posting, and just dips out, that's lame. How about some resolution. Was it because of the medals, or was it the "rmt sale" he "pretended" to "intercept" was he duping too? It requires answers! Not like SE would tell him why even if he cared to come forward, but given all the bans that recently went out are people tied to the dupers.. it seems pretty likely that's why if he's gone.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-27 16:47:58
Yeah obviously square doesn't say what you did, but he would know. And I want to know. Because the narrative is that he only bought medals. But so did a ton of other people. So he "bought too many" so we know what the "cross the line amount" is.
Or is that all *** and he only bought them because they were easy money, after duping anyway.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-27 16:58:26
That is exactly what needed to happen. Delete (ALL) the medals and everything they became. Leave the characters. The real punishment is making ("letting") them keep playing.
Shiva.Thorny
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2777
By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-27 17:02:06
I hope this doesn't qualify as name and shame, I am assuming it doesn't because buying medals from bazaar isn't really a crime or anything to be ashamed of, but here's the definitive list of who bought them: https://pastebin.com/iBAZPyut
It looks like Aquatiq got 495 Kindred's and 396 Beastmen's, so the threshold is not terribly high if that's what he got nailed for. Azeran got a lot too, he still kicking?
Shiva.Thorny
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2777
By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-27 17:12:27
Me? No. My bazaar said not to buy them, my shout said not to buy them, I told anyone who sent me a tell that it was not safe to buy them. If they got banned, that's natural selection at work.
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Odin.Slore
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1350
By Odin.Slore 2019-11-27 17:18:29
Well it on them I could understand se dropping hammer. How can they claim they didn't know? No one would have that many medals and no one would sell them at that price. They had to know ***was fishy and as Thorny said he told people not to buy them in bazaar and shout.
Fools gonna fool.
By spengler 2019-11-27 17:38:59
That's the thing, he was actively posting, and just dips out, that's lame. How about some resolution. Was it because of the medals, or was it the "rmt sale" he "pretended" to "intercept" was he duping too? It requires answers!
always left half jacked off. never any closure. I want the STF to post names.
I'm still so curious how you are still actively posting in this topic after being proved wrong like 15 different times now.
Probably a lesson here to stop spreading fallacy/*** on things you know nothing about but I'm sure it's one most here that said there won't be bans won't learn.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-27 17:41:04
I haven't been proven a single *** time wrong. There isn't one confirmed ban yet other than thorny's (forgot elidyr too)
And you need to learn what hyperbole is.
Shiva.Thorny
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2777
By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-27 17:45:51
There isn't one confirmed ban yet other than thorny's
How often do you get a 'confirmed' ban to whatever standard you're expecting? People quitting the day of a ban wave, or no longer logging on, is as good as it gets. This isn't 2008, nobody is crying they got banned, they're all too prideful to admit it or happy to entirely leave xi/forums behind.
I'd still take anything this week with a grain of salt, as people may be traveling for the holidays, but from the sounds of it most of beerninjas is gone.
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-27 17:47:52
I want to see 40 people own that ***. Man up. No heresay. not the 'word of the bullshitting stf'
40ish, 2 were you 2+ were eli etc
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Shiva.Thorny
サーバ: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2777
By Shiva.Thorny 2019-11-27 17:48:26
well wish in one hand, ***in the other, see which fills up faster
it's pretty clear nobody wants to own up to being banned
By spengler 2019-11-27 17:58:30
This was also the first wave:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/56136-Regarding-an-Item-Duplication-Exploit?p=621410#post621410
And there were several more confirmed bans yesterday morning. good lord the delusion..
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2019-11-27 18:09:34
Zero confirmed bans yesterday. Absolutely zero. 2 people said "oh a ton of people got banned"
*** WHO. WHERE. Zero.
If they're gone it's not a warning, dead characters don't break any rules.
Oh hey guys, I haven't seen eiryl online in 2 days, HE'S BANNED! Hasnt sold anything since 11/11 HE's DEFINITELY BANNED!
By Draylo 2019-11-27 18:27:30
More like Spengler is the delusional drama fiend. He should shut up until he has his facts straight.
By Pantafernando 2019-11-27 18:53:21
Zero confirmed bans yesterday. Absolutely zero. 2 people said "oh a ton of people got banned"
*** WHO. WHERE. Zero.
If they're gone it's not a warning, dead characters don't break any rules.
Oh hey guys, I haven't seen eiryl online in 2 days, HE'S BANNED! Hasnt sold anything since 11/11 HE's DEFINITELY BANNED!
Nah
This was only wishful thinking
By fonewear 2019-11-27 19:05:06
18 pages no packets pointless drama.
Continue on I guess.
Asura.Arico
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 535
By Asura.Arico 2019-11-27 19:43:26
They patched it, as already said, it does not work now.
It's original use was not to dupe, though. It was to easily work with mog slips.
Lakshmi.Elidyr
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 912
By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2019-11-27 20:10:09
I wish Spengler would humour me and tell us who he is. I had never even heard of Elidyr before the duping and if Spengler is just a subordinate of his then I definitely won’t known who he is but he apparently knows us so well.
They in fact were banning for more than medals; how they determined beats me though as some of the bans and accounts not banned make no sense to me. I am still around, and I do think Ivaar has the porter addon was released not to long ago that you should check out; mine is ugly and old. And yes the original intention of that addon was for a porter, I stole code from my gearswap files which numerous people had access to on my discord. It actually ended up in the Windower Discord because someone saw a screenshot of it loading and was curious, another mystery solved by the fact checkers on here blaming people with no facts lol. Nobody actually knew of the exploit because it was used for auest stuff and npc trades, not for duping.
Yeah I verified my account getting banned the first day.
Sorry for lack of responses, I really had no intentions to play the day of the reckoning; most my accounts were already dropped and all my gear/items moved away. As for Spenger he was someone that asked to buy medals from me; probably just in scheme to catch or bust me but I was already done playing/moved on so I didn't care. I just had happened to have my main still active to make him some medals. Im not sure of his original motives but more then likely the original source of all the publicized drama as Draylo has mentioned; I had to block him in on discord to stop blowing me up. As for a subordinate- goodnes no, the guys is annoying af; sorry bud, you just really talk to much before facts. As for others being banned I do know some people got hit, which I am not gonna put out names its not my place; but yes they did drop a bunch more, and yes there are still people with a ton of medals. Anyway, if you guys ever wanna talk addons or need some help just hit me up.
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By spengler 2019-11-27 20:22:20
The fascination you all have with a "sock" account and who someone is is really perplexing. FFXI isn't a big enough game for anyone to be of import.
being eli's subordinate is one of the more funny things I've ever heard.
but there you have it, the kid confirmed more bans including a few of his buyers.
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Lakshmi.Elidyr
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 912
By Lakshmi.Elidyr 2019-11-27 20:38:18
The fascination you all have with a "sock" account and who someone is is really perplexing. FFXI isn't a big enough game for anyone to be of import.
being eli's subordinate is one of the more funny things I've ever heard.
but there you have it, the kid confirmed more bans including a few of his buyers.
Im not sure either, and I really have no hard feelings or hatred towards you; I can understand somewhat. On the other hand there are some other people that use multiple ffxiah accounts in odd manners like smashing rate downs, or making multiple comments like its a new persona, and weird ***to make themselves feel empowered or something; I really don't get it lol. I won't mention their names though but I'm sure you can dig it up somewhere in all this mess.
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By Draylo 2019-11-27 20:42:52
It's a past time favorite to sit behind a newly created account slinging personal attacks at people and creating drama. Most forums those people would be blocked/banned.
By Shichishito 2019-11-27 21:02:47
lots of them popped during the dupe week. most of them are probably salty cause one of their mules got banned.
Lakshmi.Watusa
サーバ: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 702
By Lakshmi.Watusa 2019-11-27 23:46:08
Spengler is my boyfriend, he's a bottom btw
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Quote: Regarding an Item Duplication Exploit
Good day, adventurers. This is the Special Task Force (STF), the team charged with investigating and suppressing unethical conduct that negatively impacts players’ FINAL FANTASY XI experience.
Several days ago we confirmed that some players were using an external program to create duplicates of specific in-game items. We would first like to apologize for the concern that this has caused, as bits and pieces of this information were posted on unofficial fan sites and message boards.
This message is to inform you of the measures we have taken to address the exploit and the punishment disseminated to the culpable parties.
Background Information and How We Have Addressed the Exploit
On the night of November 12 (Japan time), we received a bug report stating that it was possible to receive an unlimited number of Beastmen’s Medals and Kindred’s Medals. We acted immediately to verify the report, and determined that it was, in fact, possible to duplicate the items in question. We consulted with producer Akihiko Matsui and temporarily removed the affected NPC as a provisional emergency measure.
The development team then undertook a detailed investigation and confirmed that the exploit did exist and pinpointed concrete methods for consistently reproducing said exploit. As part of the emergency maintenance on November 14 (Japan time), we implemented a server-side fix addressing the exploit and have confirmed that it is no longer possible to duplicate items in this manner.
Player Punishment for Abuse of the Exploit
While the development team worked to fix the underlying cause, the STF focused on investigating suspicious players. We have completed our investigation of all characters who interacted with the NPC in question from early last week until the NPC was temporarily removed, and discovered that 45 players used the aforementioned exploit. We terminated the accounts of those 45 players on November 13 (Japan time).
We take the integrity of the game very seriously, and are widening the scope of the investigation to determine if any players used this exploit before the period in question, and whether or not it was possible for similar exploits to be used on other NPCs or items. If we discover any related conduct, those players will be punished in the same manner.
As we have communicated to players since the game’s inception, the use of external programs in FINAL FANTASY XI violates the Terms of Use, and we will take all necessary measures against players who do so, up to and including account termination. We would like to take this opportunity to again warn you against using such programs, as doing so will put your account in jeopardy.
If you witness any suspicious activity in-game or read information on how to perform such activities on external sources, do not try them yourself or distribute the information to others, and instead report them to the STF immediately.
We will continue to remain ever vigilant against suspicious activity in FINAL FANTASY XI and ask for your continued support in ensuring a level playing field for all players.
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