That Impeachment Thing....

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By Viciouss 2020-01-29 17:01:19  
Oh god, Dershowitz is back at the podium! Get your popcorn ready! I can't believe he was allowed to speak again.
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By Viciouss 2020-01-29 17:05:35  
He went off on a wild tangent again, and Nadler got up there and just blew him out of the water. They have to get Dershowitz off that bench.
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By fonewear 2020-01-29 17:07:57  
Oh Vic would actually find this ***entertaining.

You still taking notes ?
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By Viciouss 2020-01-29 17:10:20  
It's been interesting to listen to, both sides have good speakers and bad, some really bad. The last hour has been rough for the defense tho.
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By fonewear 2020-01-29 17:19:37  
They should have waited till Super Bowl Sunday to do all this. To make sure only the hardcore nerds would give a ***.
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By Viciouss 2020-01-29 17:21:26  
Oh wow, Dershowitz again!
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By Garuda.Chanti 2020-01-29 17:34:36  
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Bolton ...

He is an honest and principled conservative.

I disagree with his principles, but he sticks by them unwaveringly in an age when most "conservatives" are weathervanes.

I will not like him an iota better if he testifies and brings Trump down, but I will say thanks.
Well, that’s part of what is so funny about the way that establishment Republicans operate. They cower and cave when the media pressure hits them, thinking that maybe if they throw the media a bone they’ll get better treatment down the road. The aftermath often results in the kind of response that you gave. “Thanks, but you’re still a Republican and therefore we still hate you.”
I don't hate him. I have strong disagrements with his positions. I admire his constancy. Its the bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran part I disagree with mostly.

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Just look at Romney and McCain. They got eviscerated by the Left over the dumbest little minutia...
Romney destroyed America's ability to produce specality steel. McCain inflicted the devine Sarah on the American people. Hardly "the dumbest little minutia."
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2020-01-29 18:14:20  
Bolton has been unfriended and blocked by Fox News

/popcorn
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-01-29 18:34:41  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Bolton ...

He is an honest and principled conservative.

I disagree with his principles, but he sticks by them unwaveringly in an age when most "conservatives" are weathervanes.

I will not like him an iota better if he testifies and brings Trump down, but I will say thanks.
Well, that’s part of what is so funny about the way that establishment Republicans operate. They cower and cave when the media pressure hits them, thinking that maybe if they throw the media a bone they’ll get better treatment down the road. The aftermath often results in the kind of response that you gave. “Thanks, but you’re still a Republican and therefore we still hate you.”
I don't hate him. I have strong disagrements with his positions. I admire his constancy. Its the bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran part I disagree with mostly.

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Just look at Romney and McCain. They got eviscerated by the Left over the dumbest little minutia...
Romney destroyed America's ability to produce specality steel. McCain inflicted the devine Sarah on the American people. Hardly "the dumbest little minutia."

I watched the Romney/Obama race pretty closely, and I don’t recall ever hearing anything about steel. What I did hear about constantly was a dog on a car roof, Romney being a meanie head in prep school, “the 47%”, etc., i.e. the minutia.
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By Viciouss 2020-01-29 18:37:23  
I remember Obama ran campaign ads on his job killing steel policies.
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By Viciouss 2020-01-29 18:37:46  
Wow Val Demings just straight up ignored that question.
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By fonewear 2020-01-29 18:38:37  
You like Huey Lewis and the news ?

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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-01-29 18:42:07  
Viciouss said: »
I remember Obama ran campaign ads on his job killing steel policies.

That's technically not "the media", though.
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By Ragnarok.Ozment 2020-01-29 18:43:03  
So I wasn't able to watch live, but catching up a bit now. I see the Bolton bombshell caused the defense to switch from "Quid Pro Quo never happened" to Dershitz claiming that it did happen BUT "Trump can't be impeached because he believed felt his reelection is in the national interest."

OK, so now this new defense is basically saying that Trump FELT he was acting in the best interest of the country. Laws are now based on FEELINGS.

This country used to possess some sense of decorum and dignity, and insist on the same from its elected officials. Hopefully those days will be coming back later this year.
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By fonewear 2020-01-29 18:43:24  
I used to be a renegade, I used to fool around
But I couldn't take the punishment, and had to settle down
Now I'm playing it real straight, and yes I cut my hair
You might think I'm crazy, but I don't even care
'Cause I can tell what's going on
It's hip to be square
It's hip to be square
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-01-29 18:46:23  
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
This country used to possess some sense of decorum and dignity, and insist on the same from its elected officials.

Yeah, the 1700s were a pretty good time.
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By fonewear 2020-01-29 18:47:58  
I miss the days of JFK when cheating on your wife was cool and dignified.
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By fonewear 2020-01-29 18:50:08  
Oh yea Clinton JFK all the dignified Presidents. That were classy as hell.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-01-29 18:52:40  
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Laws are now based on FEELINGS.

Clearly. Because, as I've said many times, there are no accusations of lawbreaking in the articles of impeachment. I know people have a hard time with this concept, but those are the basis for the trial. Trump is in court for hurting the FEELINGS of Congress. It's that simple.
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By Viciouss 2020-01-29 18:53:20  
Talking about Hunter Biden is getting them nowhere. The Republicans had 4 years to investigate him and they did nothing because there is nothing to investigate. There remains no evidence he did anything wrong.
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By Viciouss 2020-01-29 18:54:27  
Ragnarok.Ozment said: »
So I wasn't able to watch live, but catching up a bit now. I see the Bolton bombshell caused the defense to switch from "Quid Pro Quo never happened" to Dershitz claiming that it did happen BUT "Trump can't be impeached because he believed felt his reelection is in the national interest."

That was a horrible moment for Team Trump, he got benched for hours but then somehow was allowed to go back up there not once but twice to expand on his wild claims.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-01-29 18:57:28  
fonewear said: »
Oh yea Clinton JFK all the dignified Presidents. That were classy as hell.

We've had a few classy presidents. Look at Martin Van Buren. LOOK AT HIM. Dude was rocking the Ebeneezer Scrooge style and people were like, "Heck yes we want him to be President!"

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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-01-29 19:06:57  
More shots!
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By Viciouss 2020-01-29 19:07:09  
Jay Sekulow is having a bad time with his doomsday conspiracies. Calling witnesses will in no way add months to the trial.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-01-29 19:09:12  
I'm just seriously waiting for someone on the house managers side to look sideways and just go jesus *** christ already
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-01-29 19:35:37  
Viciouss said: »
Talking about Hunter Biden is getting them nowhere. The Republicans had 4 years to investigate him and they did nothing because there is nothing to investigate. There remains no evidence he did anything wrong.


Whataboutism is a fun distraction.
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By fonewear 2020-01-29 19:47:50  
Oh no Trump is corrupt according to some unknown political cartoon.

That's all the evidence I need.
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By fonewear 2020-01-29 19:48:20  
Who cares about what will hold up under the law. We need more political cartoonist opinions !
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By fonewear 2020-01-29 19:49:16  
And according to the Constitution political cartoons should hold up in the trial as evidence.
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