That Impeachment Thing....

Are you sure?

So, we're not supposed to care about this Biden corruption because it's common and we're not paying for it personally. Meanwhile, we're supposed to support the movement to oust a sitting president who hasn't been charged with a crime for wanting to investigate said corruption.

So, I'm hearing that corruption is okay, but wanting to stop corruption is impeachable. Good discussion.

100%. Burisma was paying Hunter Biden, which is not a crime. It certainly was not US citizens. There is no evidence of any corruption at all involving the Bidens.

No one is sure. Does it not seem like it would warrant an investigation? You absolutely, in good faith, can not admit that something questionable is going on here. How many people, without experience in the position, do you know that a foreign company hires at a million+ yearly, and hasn't shown up to the office once in five years? Especially a position in one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

In April of 2014, Burisma paid Hunter's business partner, Devon Archer, $120k. The next day, Archer was in the WH meeting with Biden. Biden then headed to Ukraine with millions in aid for the Ukraine energy industry. How much of that did Burisma get?

Enter Hunter Biden onto the board.

Over the next two years, 53 million was sent to Ukraine's energy industry. Wouldn't you like to know how much of that went to Burisma?

Or why 20 million in US taxpayer funded loans went to Hunter's friend to launch a luxury car dealership...in Ukraine? Then that friend made large donations to Biden's campaigns. He loaned 500k to Biden's brother.

Years later, Biden is demanding that the top prosecutor be fired or they won't get 1 billion in loan guarantees. That prosecutor tells the WaPo that Biden's motive for having him fired was the activities of Hunter Biden and the prosecutors that were on his tail.

It very well could all be legit, but I highly doubt it. Read everything again and replace Biden with Trump and tell me that we wouldn't be investigating all of it right now. Do you not agree that it should be looked into? We sent 1.28 billion in aid to the Ukraine in just those two years. Biden's family and friends also leveraged deals in China, Iraq, Khazakhstan (however you spell it), and Latin America. It's a lot of money. I have zero problems with Trump asking for an investigation into corruption, whether it be involvement in the 2016 election or US Aid related. If nothing turns up, so be it.

We have the transcripts of the phone calls with Trump and Ukraine, I would love to see the transcripts of the phone calls with Biden and Ukraine.

No one who believes Kremlin propaganda is sure. Everyone else who pays attention to things like "chronological order" are pretty certain.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-ukraine-buris-idUSKBN1WC1LV

Your doubts don't mean anything. Its a conspiracy theory, nothing more. The Republicans had 4 years to investigate it, and they didn't. Why? Because it didn't matter to them, they knew Shokin had to be fired, they didn't have a problem with it. Now they have a problem with it only because Joe is running ahead of Trump. Otherwise no one cares, if Joe wasn't running it wouldn't even be a topic of conversation. Hunter Biden is a private citizen, he can serve on any board of any company he wants, and collect any amount of money for it. Qualifications don't matter. There is no evidence he did anything wrong, and there is certainly no evidence his monthly salary was paid by US citizens.

The allegations from Rudy have gotten so ridiculous no one is even listening to him anymore. He went over to the Ukraine repeatedly to coach them up on what to say and they said it and all anyone asked was why are you over there dude? You got your client impeached, you ran a 7 month pressure campaign and yet you are still coming and going from the Ukraine and going on TV spouting nonsense? Shut it down, you're done.

The best thing is it hasn't even scratched Joe Biden, he is still running ahead of Trump. 7 month (and counting) long extortion scheme to still be running behind Joe Biden.

I'm sure you would, too bad they don't exist. No one is gonna be investigating Joe Biden.

Break your point down for me. It looks like you just threw in an investigation prior to my timeline. Not exactly sure what you're proving here?

If this was Donald Trump, would you be defending and stating this as well?

There were other investigations, including the authorities seizing property of Burisma's CEO in 2015, under the investigation of tax evasion and money laundering. I only quoted Biden being investigated because it was a direct quote from the prosecutor that Biden had fired. Like I said in that post, all of the dealings very well could have been legit.

Show me some evidence of JoeBiden doing something illegal. And don't even try to post the fact checked and debunked video of Biden taking too much credit for firing the corrupt prosecutor. You guys have tried that and failed for months. We know it didn't go down like that.

Show me evidence that it didn't...since you KNOW.

Show me evidence that anything I posted was incorrect.

I can't show you anything if there is no investigation. Maybe the Republicans should have an anonymous whistleblower pop up.

So its like you need a history lesson in global politics, specifically on the Ukraine?

TLDR Version aka Fone version:

Before 2014 Ukraine had Moscow installed puppets in power. Moscow friendly businesses at the time like Burisma where corrupt as ***.

In 2014 there was a revolution and a Pro-Western government took over and began investigating the corruption of pro-kremlin politicians and businesses. Biden was hired in 2014 something to keep in mind.

The prosecutor in question was corrupt and didn't want to do his job and investigate corruption tied to Moscow. The International Monetary Fund, the European Union, Republicans and Democrats in Congress wanted him gone. Hell they even signed a memorandum on it.

https://www.portman.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/portman-durbin-shaheen-and-senate-ukraine-caucus-reaffirm-commitment-help

The prosecutor was fired 1 month after this letter was sent.

The narrative you subscribe to was manufactured by the Kremlin because (sour grapes, same as your perceived stance of Democrats in response to the results of the 2016 elections), they're all about propaganda and playing the victim. You like many others fell for it.

I haven't seen one person dispute any of the previous corruption that was ousted. I don't know why you chose to bring that up in response to anything I've stated. What narrative do I subscribe to specifically? Quote my incorrect statements, please.

It's only ok, in fact encouraged, for Democrats to be corrupt. If your not a Democrat, well that's a crime itself anyway.

Repeat after me,

Democrats Good
Republicans Bad
Orange Man VERY BAD!!!

Yeah I want Trump out too. His policies and driving the market is erasing my dream of having to be made to work well into my 70's. I despise the idea that I could comfortably retire in my late 50's to early 60's.

I hate that he is draining the swamp and routing out corruption. I like corruption.

I hate the fact that he got rid of the individual mandate. I love seeing people who cannot afford something be fined $100's if not thousands of dollars they cannot afford either.

I hate the fact that he is against gun control because if you take guns from law abiding citizens then criminals won't have them either.

I hate that he is anti-abortion. I love the fact that a woman at anytime can decide she does not want a baby and is not forced to have one BUT if she does have it and the father does not want one, the government forces him to support the baby without choice for 26 years even though the mother has a choice.

I'll think of more later.

Lets not forget the liberal demand for post birth abortions.

Shoes drop

https://www.newsweek.com/lindsey-graham-loop-information-bidens-ukraine-lev-parnas-claims-1484836

“I do declare, why I’d never...” /clutches-pearls

It has everything to do with what you stated.

The people that disputed the corruption that was ousted? Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump. Their whole stance is disputing the ousted corruption by attempting to point the finger back at Biden the then enforcer of US policy in the Ukraine and his son. Hell your posts at their core on this subject matter are disputing the ousted the corruption.

Yeah, and Trump is nearly 80 with multiple health problems as well.

So like I said, Trump is near 80 and has multiple health problems.