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 Shiva.Zerowone
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-02-07 15:29:22
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Odin.Slore said: »
Every quarter has been up over the 2% except 2 in the last 3 years.
Really turns out Trump did have a "magic wand".

Not really. It’s never hit the 3% or 4% he touted he could bring about. 2018 he got close to 3% by juicing growth with a 1.5 Trillion dollar tax cut. Last year it was 2.3% which lines up as average since the Great Recession of 2008. The dip is due businesses slowing down on investments. His average so far is 2.5% annually.

To compare with the previous administration, the average growth annually was 2.2% over the course of 8yrs.

The best the economy ever was 1997-2000 with 4% and 3% mid 2000s.

TLDR: not really any better than Obama’s and nowhere near GWB’s and Clinton’s.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-07 15:34:53
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Only if growth is your only measure of the strength of the economy. Armchair economics are fun, but there’s a reason why people need degrees to understand the big picture (and even then they don’t necessarily agree about what it means).
 
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-07 16:04:34
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People pretending that they’re above it all is another common thing in these threads.
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By fonewear 2020-02-07 16:09:42
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1225174713992990721
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-02-07 16:12:42
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fonewear said: »
https://twitter.com/i/status/1225174713992990721
Same people that enjoy that lark are also crying for term limits in the legislative branch.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-07 16:14:07
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Shiva.Zerowone said: »
Odin.Slore said: »
Every quarter has been up over the 2% except 2 in the last 3 years.
Really turns out Trump did have a "magic wand".

Not really. It’s never hit the 3% or 4% he touted he could bring about. 2018 he got close to 3% by juicing growth with a 1.5 Trillion dollar tax cut. Last year it was 2.3% which lines up as average since the Great Recession of 2008. The dip is due businesses slowing down on investments. His average so far is 2.5% annually.

To compare with the previous administration, the average growth annually was 2.2% over the course of 8yrs.

The best the economy ever was 1997-2000 with 4% and 3% mid 2000s.

TLDR: not really any better than Obama’s and nowhere near GWB’s and Clinton’s.

Its been the exact same, his tax cut was a 1 year stimulus and the best we got was 2.9%. He repealed his tax cuts with his tariffs, and now we are back down to a preliminary 2.3% with a final (likely lower) number on Feb 27th. Trump's economy is the same as Obama's. 401k is the same, unemployment is the same (kinda has to be, we are at full employment), GDP is the same (or worse), manufacturing jobs are continuing to fall thanks to tariffs and automation. Trump hasn't been any better for the economy than Obama.
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By fonewear 2020-02-07 16:14:26
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I"m pretty sure Trump has already anointed himself King dethroned Lebron James.

I saw it in Game of Thrones.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-07 17:03:48
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Here comes the retaliation, Vindman just got fired for doing his job correctly.
 
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-02-07 17:23:44
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God Damn is that the truth.
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frustrate themselves over things they have no control or influence over.
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By fonewear 2020-02-07 18:09:15
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I"m just here to keep this shitty website going.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-07 18:12:45
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DirectX said: »
Bahamut.Ravael said: »
People pretending that they’re above it all is another common thing in these threads.
I'm neither unhealthily obsessed with Trump nor care much that your country is tearing itself apart.

I'm just here to see people frustrate themselves over things they have no control or influence over.

That’s fair, but I think you just accidentally proved my point.
 
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-02-07 18:34:37
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Meanwhile Trump is on a firing spree.
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By fonewear 2020-02-07 18:40:55
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Shiva.Zerowone said: »
Meanwhile Trump is on a firing spree.

I wonder if Trump can fire me from FFXIAH...or get a mod to randomly appear.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2020-02-07 18:43:58
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1513

18 U.S. Code § 1513. Retaliating against a witness, victim, or an informant

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(e) Whoever knowingly, with the intent to retaliate, takes any action harmful to any person, including interference with the lawful employment or livelihood of any person, for providing to a law enforcement officer any truthful information relating to the commission or possible commission of any Federal offense, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-07 18:44:16
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Shiva.Zerowone said: »
Meanwhile Trump is on a firing spree.

Its called a temper tantrum.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-07 18:51:07
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Oh boy, are the armchair lawyers coming out of the woodwork again? It's time to impeach! I'm sure it will work this time.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-07 18:52:01
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Whats next for the Vindman brothers? Continued military service, War College, promotions to full bird Colonels, pay raises.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-02-07 18:54:57
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Now Iraq is saying the rocket attack that caused the US to retaliate and kill the Iranian General, was carried out by ISIS not Iran.

Thought Trump defeated ISIS. Do we take the Iraqi government or the US President at their word?
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2020-02-07 18:55:46
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Good for them? Just because Trump fired someone doesn't mean that they should be shunned from society. That's how the other side of the aisle works.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-02-07 18:57:10
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Well they’re really just reassigned.

Sondland however got fired.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-07 18:59:42
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Bahamut.Ravael said: »
Good for them? Just because Trump fired someone doesn't mean that they should be shunned from society. That's how the other side of the aisle works.

Uh no thats definitely how your side of the aisle works. They would not have been fired if that wasn't the case. Especially the other Vindman brother who was fired for being his brother's twin. Nice lie tho.
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By Odin.Slore 2020-02-07 19:01:54
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You cannot "fire" a member of the military. It is not possible. You can reassign them but they would have to go through a court-martial to be removed from service unless he does it voluntarily.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-07 19:03:02
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Shiva.Zerowone said: »
Well they’re really just reassigned.

Sondland however got fired.

Oh he will get a pay raise too. There is always more money in the private sector. And now they are all free to say whatever they want, Trump would have been better off keeping them on so he could keep them quiet. Now they can freely talk about Trump's daily misbehavior, its not like his abuses are limited to just asking the Ukrainians for help with his reelection.
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By Odin.Slore 2020-02-07 19:03:48
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really reaching there vic
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By Viciouss 2020-02-07 19:07:32
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Not at all.
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By Shiva.Zerowone 2020-02-07 19:07:51
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Viciouss said: »
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Well they’re really just reassigned.

Sondland however got fired.

Oh he will get a pay raise too. There is always more money in the private sector. And now they are all free to say whatever they want, Trump would have been better off keeping them on so he could keep them quiet. Now they can freely talk about Trump's daily misbehavior, its not like his abuses are limited to just asking the Ukrainians for help with his reelection.

Sondland’s future will be interesting. He ended up being a naive patsy. When you’re a million dollar donor get awarded the ambassadorship and are totally onboard with coded mafioso talk. Then get thrown under the bus because you sing like a canary... not sure where he goes except back to his life of luxury in obscurity.
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By Viciouss 2020-02-07 19:08:50
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Shiva.Zerowone said: »
Viciouss said: »
Shiva.Zerowone said: »
Well they’re really just reassigned.

Sondland however got fired.

Oh he will get a pay raise too. There is always more money in the private sector. And now they are all free to say whatever they want, Trump would have been better off keeping them on so he could keep them quiet. Now they can freely talk about Trump's daily misbehavior, its not like his abuses are limited to just asking the Ukrainians for help with his reelection.

Sondland’s future will be interesting. He ended up being a naive patsy. When you’re a million dollar donor get awarded the ambassadorship and are totally onboard with coded mafioso talk. Then get thrown under the bus because you sing like a canary... not sure where he goes except back to his life of luxury in obscurity.

I'm sure he will sign a million dollar book deal.
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