ALL TRUMP!!! ALL THE TIME!!!

That's a very narrow interpretation of bias, but okay. You do acknowledge, however, that your interpretation of what is and what is not "wrong" is based largely on your own life experiences, and therefore it is subjective?

Don't get all prissy, I'm going somewhere with this, and it's on topic. Answer my question as posed.

I never realized a yes/no question could be so hard. Screw it then, we'll go your route. You feel that you have the "correct" frame for the "clearly worded statement" even though you were not at the meeting, nor have you looked at the transcript for said meeting, nor did you know any such transcript even existed. You are trying to claim that my "reframing" was biased, when all I did was take a quote from a page of quotes that were harvested for the sole purpose of making Trump look bad and put it in the context of how it actually occurred.

So where did I get my "reframed" reference from? A news site with a known bias against Trump, which is something that I already told you guys that I do so that nobody freaks out about me using Fox News or something. Quote, from NBC News:


Where exactly is your problem with how I "reframed" the quote?

I just saw video of the question, because apparently that's out there. It backs my interpretation. He looks up like he's mulling it over just before asking the question, like he was just offhandedly considering the possibility before speaking. When they say no, Trump nods and accepts their response.

Even Trump's biggest detractors in the media are just saying it was a stupid question, not that it was "loaded" or a "proposal" or anything of the sort.


I have several times in here, and many more times in my everyday life. So, you're wrong. That was easy. You want to see it more from me? Delve into policy from a pro/con perspective. It'll be far more plain to see.

Bro, I don't know, I wasn't there. Maybe in that setting it was appropriate for him to ask questions (it's his administration), maybe it was inappropriate. That's the point, because neither do you. You're basing this on of how "normal people" do things, which is pure conjecture and subject to your own personal biases. Regardless, Trump isn't a "normal person" by most standards, nor was he elected to be. Most leaders are groomed to appear normal, but those same leaders screw us over too, so what value is there in being normal?

"On of", that's a new one. Thanks iPhone!

Rational and reasonable are not adjectives that I would use for most politicians. I think I have a much more cynical view of government than you do.

At least we have the latter point in common.

Don't even bother Rav this guy is like Vic but tens time worse.

He's quite adept at keeping Rav in check.

Seen on the web:

“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”- FDR

“Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.”- JFK

“I don’t take responsibility at all.”- DJT

“We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.”-Barack Obama

“We must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.”-Dwight Eisenhower

“I know words. I have the best words.”-DJT

Coming from you, that means absolutely nothing.

Ah, the cherry-picked quote game. That's a fun one. (Again, Chanti, you're better than this.)

"I’ve now been in fifty ... seven states?" - Barack Obama

"A man I'm proud to call my friend. A man who will be the next President of the United States—Barack America!" - Joe Biden

"If I were a single man, I might ask that mummy out. That's a good-looking mummy." ​- Bill Clinton

"I'll have those ni***rs voting Democratic for the next 200 years." - LBJ

"Facts are stupid things." - reagan

“Be polite to all, but intimate with few.” - Jefferson

"I know you are, but what am I?" ~Pee Wee herman.

Come on Rav, I'd expect you to be above schoolyard taunting.

just cause i want a good trump quote in there:

Nope.

1.we don't have a government paralyzed on deciding who pays for covid-19 test kits.
2. Our media isn't using this an opportunity to score points against the other party(s)
3. We don't a president or prime minister spewing disinformation and causing panic.
4. We don't have a healthcare system that requires health insurance to treat the ill and sick

We didn't publicize or politicize the contingency measures we were taking to combat the spread of this virus.

Put your money where your mouth is - I bet we come out of this in way better shape than the U.S, any takers?

didn't think so

Either way, 2 weeks from now we will know, and I'll come back and quote this post.

The U.S is going to be much much much worse than both Italy and China.

Democrats can thank Trump, Republicans can blame Obama or whoever they want.

Though the true culprits are YOU, the people.

oh, and Covid- 19 Vaccines will be free for EVERYONE, including our equivalent of what you call "illegal immigrants/aliens"

thats good you guys are doing that and closing your borders too to help contain the situation. in the mean time over here 'illegals/undocumented immigrants' won't go to the doctor because they think they're going to get deported. Not knowing who someone is or where they came from is probably a bigger danger to the public health than before