RIP SPARKS!!!

Again, I didn't play very long and it was at like 60 cap I think, but I capped all my crafts and all my exclusive gear and was left with nothing to spend gil on except a house plot.

This evidently changed!

Not really, its still like that unless you consider needing top gear as soon as it releases when it will just be invalidated next update cycle.

Sounds super fun, not really.

where do you think banks get money from?

Ah yes, its just that easy...just print new money, no big deal.

Why doesnt the US just print 25 trilion dollars and pay off their debt if its so easy?

what does any of this have to do with US debt?

You brought up where banks get their money, as if just printing money non stop wont have an impact to the economy.

well that $2 trillion came from no where and my 401k is still down for the year so it didn't seem to have much of an impact to me.

They should just print more then, what can go wrong lol

thats what they plan to do.

Im going to end this right here. No, this will in no way hurt the RMTs bottom line. The cost/gil will adjust for deflation in general, and theyll just move to other methods of income after the cap that are too dull and boring for a reasonable player.

Also, ffxi is a videogame. Gil will always be generated from thin air.... thats how the economy in the game works unless you remove gil from the equation altogether and do an item > item trade system. But then players will just make one of the rare stack drops be the currency to make trades anyway (phantasy star online's photon drop after meseta became irrelevant)

Videogame economies dont matter. Why developers dont try and make crafting fun and enjoyable and built around getting players better gear and progress, or even having crafting jobs required for raids/bosses somehow instead of trying to simulate some kind of economy that will always break down is beyond me.

The huge difference between anyone being to print bills at will and one institution (idk how it works in the US but it must be the Federal bank) printing bills is that the institution doesn't print bills at will.

They control the amount of bills printed so they know how much is injected to the economy every year... to control the effects of inflation !

Obviously this isn't possible in a game since there's no government so the only thing SE can do is control the possible ways for players to create "new gils" (mainly by NPCing items).

Counterfeit Gil
Essentially, botted RMT gils amounts to counterfeit money. In this FFXI context, gils behave more like hard drugs which gil buyers can't get enough of.

Some RMT are bot only spark and CP farmers. Some RMT just create characters to sell.

Other RMT have their own international drug cartels with craftbots, farmbots and endgame mercbots. These organizations move their goods and gils to which ever server is profitable.

The cartel RMTs not only counterfeit new gils through farmbotting, but also get some of the gils they farmed back from their gil buyers through craftbotting and mercbotting.

Some of these RMT even attempt to look legitimate by hiding within legitimate LSes.

The difference between RMT Mercs and topnotch LSes who continue to run endgame events, is that the RMT retain all their profits which become monetized in the real world. Topnotch LSes redistribute profits to all members who attend regular and extracurricular events.

RMT exist because too many players support them. Gil cannot buy the skill and knowledge of topnotch LSes who continue to crush all end game content and redistribute profits to their membership.

Counterfeit Epeen
Why do people buy gils in the first place? Established, topnotch LSes took time, teamwork, friendship and integrity to develop the skill and gear to get to where they are at. Buying gil just allows you to purchase some gear and clears, but does not fast track you to the years of experience which establshed, topnotch LSes have. Topnotch parsing is done to determine if membership is producing enough damage to get objectives done. Epeen damage is not as important as topnotch support. If you are buying gil to improve your epeen DD but neglect building a support team, well, sunshine you ain't getting very far in endgame.

Thusly, if your LS is learning how to crush endgame content, learn to network and befriend other LSes. Don't let RMT use your LS as a patsy to make money off of you and your members for free. It's really up to you, the player, to handle your drug addiction.

Botted gil isnt equivalent to counterfeit money. Unless you literally hack money into the game or otherwise duplicate it, it is legit currency. Duped medals are counterfeit equivalents. Botted gil is still legitimate gil earned through legitimate means within the game. RMT gil is still legitimate gil. A character spent the time doing whatever to get the items to sell to NPC to make the gil.

FFXI isnt a real economy. Trying to equate it to such just doesnt work, because money is designed to come from nothing.

You do realize you can make ~100m/week/char with just 12 hours of game time.... right?

Oh, i agree that there is no way to make a good economy in the game, and it will always end up with people who have excess gil and those who physically do not have gil and cannot realistically make gil. Im all for saying "F it" to the economy in general and just letting it be.

You upset that what i said is true? As far as the game is concerned, there is nothing a bot can do that a player cant also do. Its still going around and killing mobs, getting the drops/currency.

And as far as trading said gil for real money... theres no difference between that and selling an item on the auction house. Gil wasnt created, just exchanged hands.

Counterfeit money is fake, and not legal tender. As far as the game is concerned, botted gil and gil traded via RMT are legal tender. It being traded for real money or killed by a character on a script dont change that.

I can't even count on both hands how many "top notch" LSs I've known who cheated or duped to get where they were. This isn't to say all of them do but when I see people who bot their remas and then shame people who buy gil, it's like watching the guy in the glass house throw stones.


He's pointing out that what you said is the opposite of the truth and I think you know that too.

Cheating to get gil is legit? Bad troll bait.

As far as the game is concerned, its legit gil. There is no mechanical difference in the way currency is generated by having a script kill mobs and a player do the same thing. There is no difference between someone trading you 100m or you paying someone $10 for $100m. The currency generated is the same either way.

The game doesnt care how long something is being farmed.

I go into an online 1st person game with an autoaim hack I created. It shoots headshots with 100% accuracy FOR me. These are legit headshots because the game generated the bullets.

Thats how much sense that makes.

There are fine lines between obtaining something legit and cheating to do it. I only own 2 mythics. I manually did each jar and nyzul. I earned them. I didn't have something do it for me and then say "yeah, I earned that".

This isnt comparable to an auto aim hack. As far as how gil is actually created, botting or selling it for money doesnt change anything about how gil is created in the game at the fundamental level. There is no mechanical difference between the two.

Sure it is! Third party program accomplishing my goal for me!

Your rationalizations are amusing.

Its irrelevant that the program is doing something for you. The aim bot generates more kills than you could if you were playing and inflates your k/d. A farming bot doesnt somehow do anything you couldnt do while playing yourself. It doesnt generate anything extra. As far as the game is concerned, theres no difference between you sitting there at the keyboard and a script running around killing the same things just as fast or slower.

Anything a bot can do a player can do. If RMTs are generating gil, a player can generate the same gil.