Mamool Ambuscade V1

It is the act of casting on the Mamool that triggers the counter. Not the damage, not an enfeebling effect, but the casting. Any spell that you cast on a target has the potential to trigger a counter.

Tons of people misunderstand this, but its pretty simple.

Paladin casts flash on a Mamool => Can trigger counter (Cast on Mamool)

Rune Fencer casts Foil on themself => Cannot trigger counter (Cast on self)

Dark Knight uses Weapon Bash on Mamool => Cannot trigger counter (JAs are not cast)

Corsair uses Leaden Salute on Mamool => Cannot trigger counter (Weapon skills are not cast)

Red Mage deals elemental damage with enthunder => Cannot trigger counter (Enspell damage is not casting)

Bard casts Horde Lullaby on a Mamool => Can trigger counter if sleep fails to land due to resist. Obviously a slept mob cannot perform a TP move, so if sleep lands, cannot counter.

Bard casts Horde Lullaby on a Wyvern with Mamool in range => Cannot trigger counter. Wyverns do not have counter moves, and since the Mamool were not directly targeted by the cast, cannot counter.

There are ways of getting around the counter. For instance you can cast an AoE spell on a Wyvern. Mamool will be affected, but since the Wyvern was the target you won't get countered. Obviously, if a Mamool is asleep, it cannot counter.

Special caution has to be taken for things that you might not normally consider, such as casting offensive Geo bubbles.
Also, if you cast a spell on a Mamool that wakes that mamool up (Such as Banish in the incident I mentioned a page ago) you will wake up the target and almost certainly get countered.

/edit added a bit more about Bard stuff, and waking up slept mobs, formatted for visibility

Y'all giving great information. It's much appreciated it. <3

In those videos I'm seeing the CORs single wield, what's the deal there? What sub are they using?

Probably to cheese Tauret crit rate easier. You can change guns after every melee hit to reset tp back to 0 and keep the highest crit rate from Tauret.

I do see them using the Tauret dagger for the "Increases critical hit rate based on lower TP" and them swapping their ranged so that they stay really low for huge crit rates. But even on the final boss they stay single wielding.

Is it just because they're mostly single wielding the whole fight that they use something like /blm for the MAB to do the stronger/faster kill at the end with their leadens?

Nevermind, Tank uses Gambit+Rayke for Dark then I see them pop Sekkanoki -> Leaden Salute -> Leaden Salute -> Tank uses Ground Strike -> Leaden Salute

Thats because of BGwiki saying the following.

Hemotoxin Wheel: Single Target ranged multi-hit TP move, deals heavy damage.

Autarch's counter move to magic, used on the player casting magic against it.

This includes Geomancy and magical weapon skills, but excludes en-damage, spikes, runes etc.

Just because its on BGWiki, doesn't mean the info is accurate or complete. Wiki's are often updated by people working with incomplete understandings of mechanics, if not secondhand information. Its page on this Ambuscade was never entirely accurate.

This is the info on the Ambuscade page as of now for the Mamool adds and I assure you it is not accurate. Damage is irrelevant, all that matters is the act of casting. The counter mechanic is the same for the Autarch as for the other Mamool.
Offensive Geomancer bubbles can trigger, but I have never seen a magical WS trigger counter. For that matter, just look at the previous page in this thread, there are literally two videos of groups taking the Autarch down with Leaden Salute.

The thing is, this month's mechanics are exactly the same as the previous mechanics. People didn't fully understand it then, and clearly still do not fully understand it now. The BGWiki page needs to be updated, and fortunately that is a pretty easy thing to do.

It's this one. Crits. Absolute cake.

Consider gimmick weapons so you dont *** it up. KC Mkris ridill quint spear soboro etc.

If you're boxing it yourself, do both.

It's like 30 crits or 3 skillchains. Neither much faster than the other.

Crit one while subtargetting skillchains on another. IF you can make that element.

After you kill all the adds by removing their aura, the boss looses their aura. Once it comes back up, can you remove it again or do you have to kill him before he blows up?

Do you have to do both Light and Dark skillchains alternating or something weird?

My first victory was just zerging while making light on the boss.

Been a while since we've seen this one. Fresh video out showing two strategies. Critical hit strategy still should be the one most use on any difficulty but the second strategy I go over can be used to get Normal Solo wins.

Normal Solo Battle Example using the above strategy I go over. I'd still recommend Solo easy wins or Very Difficult party zergs but for those who want the solo challenge here you go.

Ambuscade plan Volume 1, September 2023, Mamool Ja

plan Kill order Bozzetto Protector> Bozzetto Lancer > Bozzetto Moraingist(fish) > Bozzetto Erudite> Boss
auto attack only WITH CRITICAL SET if aura off kill ws
brd sleep all keep all sleep then we pull 1 far other kill
Bozzetto Erudite on engage befor dispel and silence
brd Fowl Aubade Puppet's Operetta Uncanny Etude HM Madrigal
Note: Brd can buff normal songs hm attx2 dex
WHM barfira barsleepra boost dex and other buff
cor galante Rogue's Roll
geo indi Wilt

tank brd/nin cor/nin healer rdm/nin geo
sub/nin
or dd/nin OR NIN replace geo


Boss before engage addle II paralaze 2 slow2 debuff whm barvira spam ws died fast no need step to aura off only need kill fast buff full attack

Do critical weaponskills count towards critical hit count to remove aura?

Is alternating Light/Dark SCs on the megaboss "necessary" or can you just zerg it down, once you removed all auras and killed all Mamools?

It can be killed before it can explode

I just zerg it down. I pop Addle on it to slow its casting but as long as it's dead before it completes the NIN Elemental spells, it won't explode.

I feel like I'm missing something - Doing crit/zerg method. I get all auras down, and get to the boss, he starts with aura down then halfway through zerg he puts it up and I do much less damage.

Crits/SC on minis break bosses Light aura. Wheel starts Dark aura. Dark aura has DT (and stacks with light aura to 99%?)

So if I he gets Dark up, I can make a DRK SC to take it away or am I just F'd?

Yes, but that's a bit of a dangerous game because you don't want to kill the mob before you get a proc, and it can take some time. Far better to melee it down until you get an aura off, then WS the mob and it will die fast.

When it gets the Dark aura up, lv3/4 skillchains break it. I'm not 100% if it's 2-3 light, 2-3 darkness, 1 of each, or any combo.

I think Mijin Gakure Kai is breath damage with a really really ridiculously high HP multiplier.

It got it off at 1% (despite 6+ lights from 75% gg), and the only death was the sam not in DT (3030 dmg).

Its not breath damage, MG is always hp based. Its non-elemental damage.

For what it's worth,