Finding Gravity II

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Finding Gravity II
 Cerberus.Kylos
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2021-08-30 19:32:28  
I have been looking for the Gravity II scroll for about a week now, killing in all the Legion zones many times over and have yet to see this. Is Legion and Meeble Burrows the only place you can get it? If so, which zone have people seen it drop in the most? Thank you.
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By Manque 2021-08-30 20:08:05  
JP wiki recommends VW Chapter 3 fights.

https://wikiwiki.jp/ffxi/%E3%83%B4%E3%82%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%89%E3%82%A6%E3%82%A9%E3%83%83%E3%83%81/%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%89%E7%AB%A0

http://wiki.ffo.jp/html/678.html
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2021-08-30 20:10:27  
Thanks, I could give it a shot, tired of doing Legion repeatedly for nothing.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2021-08-30 21:29:13  
Yeah it feels pointless. Seems so rare, I'd rather wait for the VW campaign, although I ain't got many stones left. Wondering why SE made this scroll so rare to find.
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By Phoenix.Oolie 2021-08-31 07:53:26  
Only place I've seen it drop was farming voidwatch during campaign as stated above. Last campaign I seem to think I got ~2-3 from the whale in Bibiki out of around 200 stones.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2021-08-31 08:15:25  
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Wondering why SE made this scroll so rare to find.

Isn't so much that they made it rare, as they balanced it for people doing voidwatch and legion. It was dirt cheap and readily available until the contents went away, even with the droprate as is.

Probably should just throw all the voidwatch/legion/woe scrolls on a NPC at this point, tbh.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2021-08-31 12:58:23  
Totally agree, on some of the smaller servers finding these things on the AH is super rare, because 99% of people who do Voidwatch/Legion/WOE won't realise their value and NPC them.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-08-31 13:00:50  
Small correction, it's not that they don't see the value, it's that they don't have an AH slot to burn on something that sells once a month

50k and it sells once a week, if one is up, that's not worth an AH slot

Sidenote, why the *** is it a mil on asura, the hell is wrong with you people.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2021-08-31 13:06:39  
Can see the creep up, if there are none up and someone needs it they're not going to go farm for 12 hours like Kylos, they'll drop the 1M. 10 up now though, I'm sure it's on the way back down.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2021-08-31 13:08:22  
Shiva.Thorny said: »
Can see the creep up, if there are none up and someone needs it they're not going to go farm for 12 hours like Kylos, they'll drop the 1M. 10 up now though, I'm sure it's on the way back down.

Yes that's only on Asura though, almost every other server has 0 in stock, but Gravity II is a spell any RDM would much rather spend 1m on than farming forever in Legion or VW.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-08-31 13:10:35  
....why? What are you even casting it on.

Aside from the current ambuscade and the frog ambuscade.

If bg is correct, it's 6% movement difference from Gravity I that's not worth 1g, let alone 400k and certainly not 1m (sure, 50k)

Sabateur Grav I is like 60 and grav II is 80 that's fundamentally no different.
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Gravity and Gravity II no longer reduce the target's evasion.
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By Bahamut.Feisei 2021-08-31 13:24:36  
grav 1 vs grav 2 on this months ambu is very noticable on the smn
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2021-08-31 13:31:16  
Bahamut.Feisei said: »
grav 1 vs grav 2 on this months ambu is very noticable on the smn

Yes, that's partly why I want it, but also for completion sake.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-08-31 13:32:45  
Noticable, yes. Makes a difference, no. 20% slower, 80% slower, slower is slower. it can't run away.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-08-31 14:12:34  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Sidenote, why the *** is it a mil on asura, the hell is wrong with you people.

The same reason Nicander's Necklace jumped from 1m to like 7m in less than a month. Or Handshard:PLD jumped to more than 3x the cost of Beastmen medals: Things only become valuable on Asura when people need them. Or until people think they need them. You can try waiting the price out, or farming it yourself, but you're just punishing yourself for that.

There has never not been a time when Asura hasn't jumped all over an item simply because someone says "this strat works, you need x item/gear". Every single time
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By Bahamut.Feisei 2021-08-31 15:51:07  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Noticable, yes. Makes a difference, no. 20% slower, 80% slower, slower is slower. it can't run away.

Makes enough of a difference in my mind to understand why this guy wants it. lol gatekeeping grav2

I also love how your like "aside from these two activities, one of which is currently active you dont need it" lol my guy
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-08-31 16:00:14  
Awe that's cute, someone learned a buzzword but not what it means. Adorbs.

If you want it, get it. Just be a little less stupid about it.
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By Bahamut.Feisei 2021-08-31 16:41:59  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Awe that's cute, someone learned a buzzword but not what it means. Adorbs.

If you want it, get it. Just be a little less stupid about it.

Oh look, your mocking me! Ohhhh your from asura, got it. dont know why i even bothered in the first place.

Al right ill give you the gatekeeping one, but your still telling him that it's not worth it and trust me it is.
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By Bahamut.Feisei 2021-08-31 16:48:25  
Cerberus.Kylos said: »
Bahamut.Feisei said: »
grav 1 vs grav 2 on this months ambu is very noticable on the smn

Yes, that's partly why I want it, but also for completion sake.

Anyway my guy, I know first hand that grav 1 vs 2 is not "6%" ive had em both in ambu, so bg wiki is wrong or the smn is on some steroids
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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2021-08-31 16:51:34  
Suggesting you don't need grav 2 to achieve your goals is the opposite of gatekeeping...
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2021-08-31 18:36:23  
Like I said, it's more for completion sake. Forgot about the spell til this month, then I farmed for it and noticed how rare it is. It's not breaking any ambuscade runs or whatever, but it would still be nice to have.
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By Asura.Geriond 2021-09-01 10:45:58  
Just tested Gravity and Gravity II using Absorbing Shield and the Speedchecker addon; 26% and 32% are indeed correct.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-09-01 11:58:52  
(Base) + (~54% BiS effect gear) + 37% NM Saboteur

26% + 13% + (14%) -53% Grav
32% + 16% + (17%) -65% Grav 2

SMN runs at 125% (or so)

Yeah? So 12% difference?
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By Asura.Geriond 2021-09-01 13:01:41  
Just as a random aside, Gravity does not have a cap, meaning if you get -100% on a mob, it just basically has a multiple minute bind that can't be broken by damage.

Due to the Saboteur NM nerf, it's only reachable on non-NMs or mobs that are natively slower than normal, though.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-09-01 14:06:00  
Too bad we don't get "Blue Magic Spell Effect +" gear. Would be perfect for Subduction.
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By Draylo 2021-09-01 19:31:23  
Not just subduction but it would literally open up so many new strategies for BLU by letting us make use of our old spells, I'm dying for them to add that. Ideally the best place would be on the AF3+3 but there isn't much traction going on for the idea aside from myself, so they probably not going to think of it.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-09-01 19:56:34  
They make random decisions nobody really sees coming. You just never know, I wouldn't put it past them to do something unique like that for BLU.

Ambu weapons were strangely introduced with the reasoning that it was hard for newer players to get high level weapons(?). The end result was some of the items are better than REMA weapons when used appropriately. They also, seemingly out of nowhere, gave us Hover Shot when nobody at least on the NA side ever suggested such a thing. Then they have really cool items like Yagyu Darkblade and the other Bonanza weapons where they put some unique stats on stuff you never would have imagined.

really...


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By Draylo 2021-09-01 20:00:32  
I hope so, I have a dream of casting Bad Breath and a functional Hydro shot.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-09-01 20:07:51  
If it doesn't get addressed by the Job Progression system they promised, it probably will never happen.
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By Draylo 2021-09-01 20:10:55  
We should all go to the forums, I done it a few times but that place is dead. Its one of the biggest thing that put RDM back on the map was those gear enhancements to enfeebles. We need to organize like people did to nerf BST.