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What's good about FFXI.
Shiva.Thorny
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By Shiva.Thorny 2021-10-21 08:08:27
The server has organized e-brothels:
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/12/inside-the-brothels-of-final-fantasy-xiv/
My friend group was initially on Balmung in the early days, just by coincidence, and everyone who's reactivated has ran into the same thing. If you make lalafell or female of any race in Limsa, you're accosted by multiple people within minutes.
The specific 30% number is hyperbole, but that server has a huge issue with pedophiles trying to prey on any new players. It's probably because FFXIV is the most likely game to contain young girls, if you look at the other offerings out there.
By Fribbit 2021-10-21 08:23:31
The server has organized e-brothels:
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/12/inside-the-brothels-of-final-fantasy-xiv/
My friend group was initially on Balmung in the early days, just by coincidence, and everyone who's reactivated has ran into the same thing. If you make lalafell or female of any race in Limsa, you're accosted by multiple people within minutes.
The specific 30% number is hyperbole, but that server has a huge issue with pedophiles trying to prey on any new players. It's probably because FFXIV is the most likely game to contain young girls, if you look at the other offerings out there.
I have actually heard of the brothels, though I hoped it wasn't as widespread of an issue as it apparently is. Thought it was more of a, "yeah, that happened once" kinda thing.
That's really horrible. I sincerely hope it gets addressed sooner than later.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2021-10-21 08:26:29
No cash shop? Mog wardrode 3 and 4 are cash shop items and are pretty much mandatory because XI's invent system sucks.
This is a cash shop from ff14, it has had masses of additions since this of course (including a new 30 dolla mount). This is from 2020.
Most of the XIV cash shop are old seasonal event items that you can no longer get in game that most people don't care about anyway. You have rare dyes that can be bought with gil or retainers can bring them back from ventures for FREE. That then leaves a handful of mounts, race change potion(obviously going to have to pay for that) and some outfits and emotes from the Chinese/Korean version of the game(a different company runs the Chinese/Korean version and they also make these outfits). I saw some where in your post about paying for a baseball cap glamour item, that hat isn't on the cash shop its obtainable in game.
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By Odin.Creaucent 2021-10-21 08:31:50
The server has organized e-brothels:
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/12/inside-the-brothels-of-final-fantasy-xiv/
My friend group was initially on Balmung in the early days, just by coincidence, and everyone who's reactivated has ran into the same thing. If you make lalafell or female of any race in Limsa, you're accosted by multiple people within minutes.
The specific 30% number is hyperbole, but that server has a huge issue with pedophiles trying to prey on any new players. It's probably because FFXIV is the most likely game to contain young girls, if you look at the other offerings out there.
I have actually heard of the brothels, though I hoped it wasn't as widespread of an issue as it apparently is. Thought it was more of a, "yeah, that happened once" kinda thing.
That's really horrible. I sincerely hope it gets addressed sooner than later.
I play a female character and not once have I been approached by anyone. In fact I picked up a stalker on discord because of my voice, I'm a bloke, during one the big alliance runs i was doing call outs for. Apart from messages on discord nothing really happened in game and nothing dirty.
I don't play on Balmung but I've never once seen or even heard of an ingame brothel.
Edit: im not surprised this thread eventually turned into a XI vs XIV/WoW ***show.
By Draylo 2021-10-21 08:36:57
Of course when you are one of the first ones to come out and defend anything XIV related on an XI forum. Like clockwork, youre there
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By RadialArcana 2021-10-21 08:54:15
No cash shop? Mog wardrode 3 and 4 are cash shop items and are pretty much mandatory because XI's invent system sucks.
This is a cash shop from ff14, it has had masses of additions since this of course (including a new 30 dolla mount). This is from 2020.
Most of the XIV cash shop are old seasonal event items that you can no longer get in game that most people don't care about anyway. You have rare dyes that can be bought with gil or retainers can bring them back from ventures for FREE. That then leaves a handful of mounts, race change potion(obviously going to have to pay for that) and some outfits and emotes from the Chinese/Korean version of the game(a different company runs the Chinese/Korean version and they also make these outfits). I saw some where in your post about paying for a baseball cap glamour item, that hat isn't on the cash shop its obtainable in game.
Point is, FFXI does not have one and that's a good thing.
By Draylo 2021-10-21 08:55:02
Well there are countless nude mods for the game. I stumbled upon that hell hole when trying to look into a reshader program to enhance graphics. Pretty creepy, can only imagine what they doing with those mods. Those random emotes might not be so innocent lol.
By Fribbit 2021-10-21 09:01:16
The server has organized e-brothels:
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/12/inside-the-brothels-of-final-fantasy-xiv/
My friend group was initially on Balmung in the early days, just by coincidence, and everyone who's reactivated has ran into the same thing. If you make lalafell or female of any race in Limsa, you're accosted by multiple people within minutes.
The specific 30% number is hyperbole, but that server has a huge issue with pedophiles trying to prey on any new players. It's probably because FFXIV is the most likely game to contain young girls, if you look at the other offerings out there.
I have actually heard of the brothels, though I hoped it wasn't as widespread of an issue as it apparently is. Thought it was more of a, "yeah, that happened once" kinda thing.
That's really horrible. I sincerely hope it gets addressed sooner than later.
I play a female character and not once have I been approached by anyone. In fact I picked up a stalker on discord because of my voice, I'm a bloke, during one the big alliance runs i was doing call outs for. Apart from messages on discord nothing really happened in game and nothing dirty.
I don't play on Balmung but I've never once seen or even heard of an ingame brothel.
Edit: im not surprised this thread eventually turned into a XI vs XIV/WoW ***show.
I've heard of them on Balmung, but not on any other server. I have five different chars of all different races and such on three different servers(none of them Balmung) and have also personally never come across anything like this. It's clearly a very small(in comparison to the rest of the community/population anyway) group of people participating in it, but it's still awful and shouldn't happen.
You may not be speaking about me, but for the record, I'm not against FFXIV. I enjoy XIV a lot same as I do XI and am very glad they both exist. The whole brothel thing and predatory behavior wouldn't be OK in any game and should be dealt with though.
Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2021-10-21 09:02:27
Final Fantasy XI is nearly 20 years old. Many games have come since then, and a few of those are more popular. It's literally impossible to talk about what aspects you like about it without comparing it to those games because it boils down to justifying why you're still playing it when you have other options.
Most people didn't even mention Final Fantasy XIV. The first utterance of that game didn't even happen until nearly halfway down the first page. By getting defensive about XIV you're effectively admitting that the comparisons being made are a problem in that game.
I can't find it, but I remember seeing a viral picture where someone was describing the internet by using two people in conversation. One says "I really love (thing)" and the other suddenly gets really defensive "OH! SO I GUESS YOU JUST HATE (opposite of thing) DONT YOU!" That's what this topic is. Can we stop?
By Fribbit 2021-10-21 09:09:14
Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »Final Fantasy XI is nearly 20 years old. Many games have come since then, and a few of those are more popular. It's literally impossible to talk about what aspects you like about it without comparing it to those games because it boils down to justifying why you're still playing it when you have other options.
Most people didn't even mention Final Fantasy XIV. The first utterance of that game didn't even happen until nearly halfway down the first page. By getting defensive about XIV you're effectively admitting that the comparisons being made are a problem in that game.
I can't find it, but I remember seeing a viral picture where someone was describing the internet by using two people in conversation. One says "I really love (thing)" and the other suddenly gets really defensive "OH! SO I GUESS YOU JUST HATE (opposite of thing) DONT YOU!" That's what this topic is. Can we stop?
I mean OP mentioned cash shops in the second paragraph of the post. While obviously not exclusive to FFXIV, it is clearly included in the reference.
However, things are getting off-topic, I agree.
Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2021-10-21 09:24:30
I mean OP mentioned cash shops in the second paragraph of the post. While obviously not exclusive to FFXIV, it is clearly included in the reference.
However, things are getting off-topic, I agree. It's not, though. He doesn't mention any specific game in that paragraph, or at all through the whole post. Almost every MMORPG I can think of has a cash shop: WoW, GW2, PSO2, XIV, you name it.
And why do we like FFXI? Because it isn't like other MMORPGs. That's literally the whole point. The fact that it's so different in comparison to other games in the genre is why it still has any population at all.
FFXI doesn't have global cooldowns, either (except SP abilities, I guess). And I'm extremely happy for that fact, because one of the things I don't like about other MMORPGs are GCDs. But that's not a sting at WoW or XIV or any other game that uses them. It's just the only way to describe it. lol I remember watching a guide for a job in XIV where the guy was talking GCDs and OGCDs and I had literally no idea what he was talking about XD
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By Odin.Creaucent 2021-10-21 09:31:23
No cash shop? Mog wardrode 3 and 4 are cash shop items and are pretty much mandatory because XI's invent system sucks.
This is a cash shop from ff14, it has had masses of additions since this of course (including a new 30 dolla mount). This is from 2020.
Most of the XIV cash shop are old seasonal event items that you can no longer get in game that most people don't care about anyway. You have rare dyes that can be bought with gil or retainers can bring them back from ventures for FREE. That then leaves a handful of mounts, race change potion(obviously going to have to pay for that) and some outfits and emotes from the Chinese/Korean version of the game(a different company runs the Chinese/Korean version and they also make these outfits). I saw some where in your post about paying for a baseball cap glamour item, that hat isn't on the cash shop its obtainable in game.
Point is, FFXI does not have one and that's a good thing.
FFXI does but the only things that are on it are mog wardrobe 3 and 4 which is a lot more predatory than anything on other sub based MMOs. You get to a certain point in the game that you either need to limit what jobs you play or spend 20mins getting equipment out of slips and putting others back on the slips. I have both paid for on my main account and I couldn't play the game without them because I have that many sets for the 7-8 jobs I regularly play. I'm limited to 4 jobs on my alt account with only the free ones available.
XIV also has this feature on the cash shop that you pay for extra retainers to hold more items which is one of the things you are so passionately against.
Asura.Vyre
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By Asura.Vyre 2021-10-21 09:53:48
Things I like about FFXI:
-It always feels like home despite the myriad changes it's received over the years. I first played a JP client version at friend's house that his dad had somehow gotten ahold of in late 2002. My own copy and journey began on the PS2 version in November 2003, though due to poor internet connection/location, wouldn't really really kick off with serious progress until April 2004. I've seen a whole lot of this game over the years, and I still remember some crazy stuff from back in the day. I remember Samurai prior to Hasso, prior to 2-handed update, prior to Group 2 Merits. I remember the level cap was actually raised to 75 in December 2003. That era would last for 6.5 years.
-I like the Notorious Monster term, names, locations, and vibe. Something about their names, regardless of which one it is always gives me a big brain shock alert.
-Bastok. I'm still unsure why people meme disdain of it, but in my eyes it's always been the #1 town.
-The players. When you meet the good players in FFXI, and I mean those that are good people, they will fill your cup up until it overflows. The good players are nearly selfless. It's inspirational. I met many of them throughout my time in FFXI. I'll remember those good ones forever!
Things I don't like about FFXI:
-It's far too addictive. I didn't think I'd ever put it down, and it took joining the military as well as getting a severe break up with a woman who played with me for a couple of years to even get me to look away from it for a few years. It's a world you can lose yourself in. If ya didn't need to eat/sleep/drink IRL I'm sure we'd have all disappeared inside.
-It has a lot of systems that will/can waste your time. If you're not relaxed about progressing, then it can feel like forever, but also a lot of the skill up quotas for stuff like healing/enhancing/bell/geomancy magic or slower swinging weapons just feel really taxing. I know there's Sparks books to bypass that a bit now, but this is just the tip of the iceberg. There's a lot of stuff that dangles a carrot on a stick, and unless you look the carrot up, it's extremely possible to sink a weeks'/Months'/years' worth of your personal playtime into getting an item that you didn't need or only had a marginal effect.
-The players. This time the bad ones. The ones from the old days that traded IRL money/sex/etc. for HNM drops/LS officer positions/to get people kicked etc. The ones who insist that cheating is OK. The ones buying botted Master stars, then saying they're aces at their jobs. The ones always pushing the envelope on third party stuff to enhance their performance. Also justifying it to themselves while pushing away the natural state of play, so much so that it's nearly unrecognizable to them. They can't play the base game, and love it for what it is.
Something something Raogrimm line post Shadowlord 5-2 fight.
As far as FFXIV goes, Creau's just trying to stick up for stuff y'all are mostly talkin' bout secondhand.
FFXIV's main problem, imo, is that WoW players have been slowly taking over its playerbase since mid 2016 or whatever. It's only gotten worse. SE Corpos love the new money, but they come in swinging their WoW cudgels around like it's the new WoW, saying crap like, "My Toon" and referring to glamour as, "Transmog." Only a tiny subsection of the game are familiar with FFXI, which is sad, since many many things from XI get reused in XIV. But I'm legitimately more bothered by the WoW youtubers and streamers that jumped ship, and are now XIV streamers/tubers. Not just the most recent ones. Even the ones who came over in one of the earlier, "refugee waves." They now act like they've been in the FFXIV and FF MMO landscape all along, when they haven't. Heck, some of them weren't even in the WoW landscape all that long, from what I've gathered.
Cash shop is also a legit problem, but the official stance is that its money went to new servers and stuff like that... I've bought some stuff from it, and it never feels good after, especially when something cooler than what you just bought comes out relatively right after.
I love both games, but I have things I dislike about both of them.
By Starbucks 2021-10-21 09:55:09
PEDOPHILES? ON THE INTERNET?? ON VIDEO GAMES??? NEVER!
Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2021-10-21 10:48:51
-It's far too addictive. I didn't think I'd ever put it down, and it took joining the military as well as getting a severe break up with a woman who played with me for a couple of years to even get me to look away from it for a few years. It's a world you can lose yourself in. If ya didn't need to eat/sleep/drink IRL I'm sure we'd have all disappeared inside. I don't know if that's a problem with the game, though. Not only is "addiction" a term that can be used to describe every online game with FOMO and sunk-lost, but it's not impossible to enjoy FFXI (especially currently) on an extremely casual level.
Any game worth playing is going to be more fun if you can play for longer stretches at a time. It's part of the immersion.
Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2021-10-21 11:59:33
Another thing to like about FFXI? How badass Corsair's equipment looks.
And how easy it is to use Altana Viewer to make little Photoshop works. :D
Bahamut.Negan
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By Bahamut.Negan 2021-10-21 12:50:55
If you make lalafell or female of any race in Limsa, you're accosted by multiple people within minutes. 99% of Lala's and female chars are dude incels so yeah, they deserve it.
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By RadialArcana 2021-10-21 13:57:08
Have you ever used any armor mods in FFXI Jessikah?
By Starbucks 2021-10-21 14:15:43
So if I make a female character on FFXIV I can get everyone to give me gear and carry me through everything?
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Bahamut.Negan
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By Bahamut.Negan 2021-10-21 14:16:58
So if I make a female character on FFXIV I can get everyone to give me gear and carry me through everything? IDK but you are welcome to join my brothel.
Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2021-10-21 14:18:12
Have you ever used any armor mods in FFXI Jessikah? A long time ago, yes. But I didn't like how a lot of them looked in-game so I didn't keep any of them for long. Otherwise, I've used the Windower addon DressUp once when I was leveling Geomancer and wanted to play it with the AF before Lv.99. I'll probably do the same with Rune Fencer when I get there. Sucks that the armor isn't 52~60 like with every other job in the game.
This might be the first thing I ever 'Photoshopped' before, and it was using MS Paint. As far back as 2008 lol
There's a remnant of me replacing the Summoner AF with some weird Carbuncle outfit in the upper-right. I think that's the only archive I have of equipment mods.
EDIT: Now I kind of want to make a new one of those "all jobs" wallpapers...
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By alamihgo 2021-10-21 14:21:36
So if I make a female character on FFXIV I can get everyone to give me gear and carry me through everything? No. The game is designed to do that for you regardless of gender.
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By SanjoTitan 2021-10-21 15:25:04
FFXI has Puppetmaster, only reason I keep coming back.
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Asura.Viska
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By Asura.Viska 2021-10-21 16:00:34
FFXI has Puppetmaster, only reason I keep coming back.
Never seen Beastmaster, spelled that way before. (I totally feel the decades long love of a job though.)
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Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2021-10-21 16:02:55
Beastmaster, Puppetmaster, what's the difference?
*trollface*
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Ragnarok.Ghishlain
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By Ragnarok.Ghishlain 2021-10-21 16:18:25
I will admit, do miss the thrill of being able to solo content and seeing how far one can take a job.
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Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2021-10-21 17:02:46
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The fan creations <3
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Asura.Vyre
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By Asura.Vyre 2021-10-21 23:47:52
Ragnarok.Ghishlain said: »I will admit, do miss the thrill of being able to solo content and seeing how far one can take a job.
*nudges FFXIV BLU towards you*
Pssst, you can solo normal mode Stormblood raids and even Lakshmi Extreme. Dungeons too!
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By alzeerffxi 2021-10-22 01:21:51
Radical is right about the store stuff except its just glamour to be honest who cares about gpose just the casuals, But than again we have a new scheme in FFXI the new mog bonanaza every 1-3 months they keep you subbed to get a chance on getting one of the weapons without adding new stuff to the game lol, on top of that they literally *** the players who play ninja, FFXI has good ***but the bad ***outweighs the good ***now they may as well be a cashop items.
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Things I think are good about FFXI, people tend to ask why are you still playing that game so I thought I would write some things down.
Basics: I like that I can play any job on one character, this instills a greater connection with your character and a greater feeling of community because people are always on that character, so you always see them on it. The gear swapping system is great for many different reasons, from the aspect of adding some complexity to play to just having so much gear to chase. I like the skillchain/MB system, that is still relevant today at near all levels of play. I like that the game has a massive wealth of different things to do and they are all deep enough to get involved in them, crafting, mog garden, pet rearing, monstrosity etc. It's so annoying to me when I find a game I really like and it's 90% just dungeon variation spamming.
1. No Cash shop (muh "optional" items), I know exactly how much I'm spending on FFXI and I can't spend anymore. The issue with playing an MMMORPG is that you spend large amounts of time in these games, and it's very easy to spend money on "optional items". You think you would not cause you're good with money, but you will and you can spend a lot. You get attached to your characters, you're feeling tired and mentally worn down after playing for 4-5 hours, it's 1am, you're bored and there is that fancy $30 mount you just saw someone run past you. Cash shops are predatory and the company manipulates you, you're not immune. On FFXI it's not "optional" at all, they don't have one.
1a. I like the subscription only model, not only for the reason above and because it creates a kind of unwritten contract where they make content regularly (I have another f2p game I enjoy but they very rarely add anything new at all, and it's infuriating because I do spend money on it) but also because paying a monthly sub encourages you to actually play the game. I have lots of f2p games installed that I can play any time I want to, I never play them because there is no mental imperative to do so.
2. I fit into the community in the game cause they are near all over 25+, I don't like playing games with a social foundation where I feel completely out of place. On games like Overwatch or whatever it doesn't matter, you're just shooting people but these games are community based. Not to say everyone on 11 acts like a civlized individual or anything but it's trolling, drama or jokes that gel with me and that I'm used to. Talking of which, you can actually tell jokes or be a troll/drama queen free from being banned for hurting somebodies feelings. The GMs ignore most reports about silly issues like this and just tell you to blist, cause the developers set these rules down long ago before current culture took over. Many modern MMORPGs are played by people who were brought up on social media, they think everything is toxic and many modern games are simply fake friendly because of fear of being banned.
2a) I like that due to the nature of the party building system, some of the most highly respected players of this game are the party builders. People who make groups and become admired for not only doing this but doing it well and being very knowledgeable. On modern games there would be no status in this, because it isn't needed.
2b) I like that the game still tries to force players to interact with others to a greater or lesser degree, there are still roadblocks like mission fights, gear unlocks or whatever where you have to reach out to others. Even new players can be totally lost in how to play and ask for help, and people can and do offer it. It's good that players are still the most important force in the game world, when you need help other players are there and not some UI button to insta match you with others. It actually does feel good to reach out for help and someone to send a tell and offer to help you with something you've been struggling with for hours or days, even if it's harder to get that help in the first place.
In my first year of playing I was on the verge of quitting, because I could not get my limit break 1 item in Eldieme. I played completely solo as a BST and so had nobody to ask for help, upto this point I could do everything alone so needed nobody. I struggled for 2 days and died over and over (I even had to go relevel and come back and keep trying), even if I did manage to down a Lich with my weak jug pets and reraise / dia the drop rate was so bad it seemed impossible. At the point of near just giving up a 75 BST checked me and sent me an invite, he spent an hour getting me my item and i remember feeling guilty he was wasting so much time on me. That simple action that really probably meant very little to him, changed my entire outlook on ffxi. I felt as if I was part of a community after that, the next day I carried on leveling WHM and would spend a lot of time helping other players (eventually on my main BST 75 too, wanting to do for others what he had done for me). I went from a complete solo player not caring about helping anyone to spending almost all of my time outside of a XP parties doing just that. Even today, FFXI still has this system in place for different things and most other games do not.
3. I like the way the auction house works, I like the economy where inflation and supply/demand are actually a thing and how everyone is interlinked more than on other games. I like that gil has real value for players and that to make gil you mostly have to get it from other players, farming items they want.
4. There is always something to do when you login. FFXI has so many long term goals and things to do that it's near impossible to have nothing to do when you login, on most modern mmorpgs you quickly run out of things to do becasue they are all aimed at casual players that complain about "grind" or "not respecting your time". As such they make the games now to appeal to non-mmorpgs players and I'm an mmorpg player.
5. I like that your server is your entire world and there is nothing outside of that. When I group up with some people, help some random person/get help or even just wandering around doing my own thing, I'll see the same names around all the time and I'll remember them from previous encounters. This promotes a heavy feeling of familiarity in your game world and world building, when I login and wander my home nation especially it feels good. It feels like "home" because I see the same people and have for years. When you play modern games you're mostly always playing with people off server, as such you're very aware you will never see this person ever again. So you have zero incentive to bother with them and they are instantly forgotten.
6. I like that the game does not tell you what to do at every moment, or that it's not completely linear (do this endgame, then this, then this in that order etc). Leveling is very open, endgame content has lots of routes to your goal (and those goals can be different).
7. I like that the game has long-term goals as standard. Whether it's getting +2 Ambuscade gear as a solo player, REMA or working on serious endgame gear with groups. Modern games are so afraid of people getting bored and quitting that everything is easy and short term. The problem with this is that gratification delayed is gratification magnified, so you will never get the immense feeling of gratification from anything on a modern mmorpg that you will get from achieving your goals on FFXI.
I remember none of the gear I obtained on most modern MMORPGS I've played, because it was easy to get and quickly replaced anyway. I remember every major piece of gear I've obtained on FFXI because I had to work hard to get them and there was emotion linked to that, from my Byakkos Haidate, Kirins Osode, getting my first Relic with the help of my linkshell, Dalmatica, my first Ambsucade +2 set after returning, completing malignance set etc.
8. I like that the game has more or less horizontal progression, there is always gear to go work for to improve but they don't wipe out your entire gear sets every 6-12 months. If you take a break for a year and come back, your gear is still good. Remember what they did with Abyssea with gear and how everyone was so mad? modern mmorpgs do that every major patch.
9. I like that they allow you to become really strong at endgame and that there is so much upgrade potential on your character (get to 99, get merits, get job points, get lots of gear etc), if you put a lot of work in it will show and you can become a beast. This is unlike most games where everyone is near enough the same and the cap is low to stop anyone feeling inferior. On FFXI the effort you put into your char/gear is significant and the game allows you to excel.
9a) I like that knowledge is important and you can't just overpower everything. For instance that Lillith can spike you to death and you need to turn, that a darkness skillchain heals her or how charm works etc. FFXI rewards hard work and knowledge, and that knowledge is figured out by the players and shared.
10. I like that FFXI does not have a single set of gear that you never take off, they have a macro system that lets you swap every piece of gear based on the situation or what you want to do. This means, you don't just work to get 6 pieces of BIS armor and a weapon and are done. You can get vast amounts of gear and swap between them. This builds into the "always something to do" system since there is so much gear to get.
11. I like the way the combat works, on most mmorpgs they have rotations of skills. So you're constantly pressing 1, 2, 3, 4 etc over and over forever. I hate this kind of busy work, because most of the time I'm doing casual stuff like farming or doing some daily activities while watching a movie. I feel like I'm wearing out my keys on most mmorpgs. Pressing 6 keys is no better than pressing 2 if the outcome is the same, it's just about fooling you into thinking you're doing something skilled when you're not. The combat also speeds up when it needs to (when you have buff jobs boosting you etc), and not always the same. Something else I'm really glad does not exist on XI is telegraphing, although this can be fun these games tend to overuse it and it becomes boring and very annoying. I don't want to endlessly move out of circles or red boxes while playing.
12. I like that the game has proper varied jobs that fill specific roles, for instance a healer is a proper healer and your job is -keep everyone alive- and that's it. There are pure buff jobs that exist just to buff the damage dealers, this is near unheard of in modern games. You can actually run out of MP if your gear is poor or you're playing poorly, the tank can lose aggro easily or a DD can miss a skill if you don't gear or play correctly. Modern mmorpgs make all jobs easy to play and very similar so no matter what job you're on, you're pretty much playing the same role and/or have to be really bad to fail to play it effectively.
13. I like that the jobs are allowed to be different and have strengths and weaknesses, I like that some jobs are far stronger than others for pure damage and that some jobs are situationally better than others. The jobs all actually feel really different and have different uses. Some jobs like BLU are incredibly fun and rewarding, you can change how the job plays or what spells it can use (blue can be pure DD, cure, crowd control, AOE murder etc) based on which spells you equip. Summoner on FFXI is fantastic, the avatars all look great and it's very powerful.
13a) I like that there is far more customization with your jobs on FFXI than on many other games, ultimately you do still end up fitting in with the meta but there is still a lot of customization possibility than you are allowed on other games. Subjobs, gear, weapon choices etc.
14. The endgame content is very unpredictable and can be very difficult (unless you're geared out the butt). I like that failing has consequences and doesn't just warp you back to the front of the boss to try again, when you have nothing to lose winning feels hollow. When I came back a few years ago, I struggled so hard with Zitah NMs. Beating my first one after failing many tries felt so good. To most others it's nothing, but to me it was a major victory and FFXI is full of things like this.
14a) I like how endgame isn't just directly linked to spamming different dungeons over and over, there are so many different things you can go do that have meaning. There is also far less stress put upon you to be doing specific things, when I play modern mmorpgs I very much do end up just spamming dungeons in group finder over and over all day. I very much do feel pressure to be doing that too.
15. I like that leveling isn't via stupid mini story quests that you never read anyway. I like that they just give you kill count quests and do away with the pretense that you care about "Fred Jones the hunter needs 10 rat tails or his house will be repossessed by captain crunch, can you help them brave adventurer?" "ok"
16. I like the crafting system, not only is it very difficult to cap out but it's very useful and linked to the economy. It also gives avenues of long progression if you choose to follow them. Sub-crafts, sheilds, knowledge of how to make profits etc
17. I like multiboxing, this is a niche enjoyment but I really like that I can not only multibox without having 4 computers but that the gameplay supports you doing it without automating everything, cause it does not have rotations etc. On other games I tend to make lots of alts and end up swapping between them for dailies, on FFXI I can have them all logged in at the same time and doing stuff. It does give an oldschool FF feel to me in some ways.
18. I like the customization via windower addons, the limitaitons of the UI was the mother of invention here and so we have all these things that a game with a more modern UI would never have.
19. I love the game world and how the developers encourage you to explore it and also to goto certain places to do content and not just let you warp into whatever form wherever (if you wanna do Amb you goto Mhuara, if you wanna do Ody you goto Rabao etc), I love how there is a nice mix or open/instanced/dungeon content, I love the deep lore where you can find things out years later that you never knew while doing the missions, I love the stories (even if many are bittersweet), I love the respect the developers have for the game world. Vana'diel feels like a real place to me in many ways, and this is not only for the things above but also because of the community aspects I mentioned earlier in the post too.
20. I personally like that near everything can be modded on FFXI, it's almost like a mini Skyrim in many ways. Not only from the perspective of making your own mods but using others mods.
21. I like how the game scales to the players and there are different paths, one person can be working on Ambu +2 gear as their long-term endgame goals when they login every day and another can be grinding out Gaol gear/upgrades. Everyone isn't just doing the same thing, and you can be a more casual player with less elite goals and be fine with that.
22. I like the music style, I like the overall aesthetic, character and monster designs. It's not stylized in a way that alienates people, it's not overly flashy and gaudy. A huge turnoff for me with 14 is the anime music style, art style, overly gaudy flashy OTT effects etc
23. I like that the game will not be replacing pictures of mithra with bowls of fruit or pandering to modern day SJW issues, the developers just want to make content and not push an agenda.
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