Puppet Go Bye-bye?

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Puppet go Bye-bye?
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 Asura.Skyekitty
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By Asura.Skyekitty 2021-12-10 14:30:10  
So I've been casually doing the Kraken club BCNM with pup and after this patch I noticed that my puppet goes away after I open the chest. Never did that before. Possible bug? Super annoying.
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By Asura.Skyekitty 2021-12-10 14:39:43  
Also, pup goes away when you enter if you call it out beforehand, didn't have that issue before either.
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By Asura.Setrekh 2021-12-10 15:20:09  
Maybe a reflection of master level causes it to spaz out?
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2021-12-10 15:24:57  
Asura.Skyekitty said: »
Also, pup goes away when you enter if you call it out beforehand, didn't have that issue before either.
That just sounds like you have too many points set for attachments at 60 cap
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By Asura.Skyekitty 2021-12-10 15:43:39  
Interesting, Avereith, I don't recall changing anything, but I will look at that. Thank you.
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By Asura.Skyekitty 2021-12-10 15:47:12  
That does not appear to be the case.
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By Siren.Kruel 2021-12-10 16:13:27  
Same thing is happening to my avatars with Unity NM's.

As soon as the NM dies, my avatars get dismissed.

Only started happening today after the update.
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By Odin.Foxmulder 2021-12-10 18:06:46  
This could be a shitty way of resolving this issue if true.
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By Lakshmi.Avereith 2021-12-10 18:17:25  
Odin.Foxmulder said: »
This could be a shitty way of resolving this issue if true.
Yo, *** the guy that reported that, lol. So much for easy level cap bcs
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By Siren.Kruel 2021-12-10 18:18:56  
Odin.Foxmulder said: »
This could be a shitty way of resolving this issue if true.
Makes sense for the way it's described that it's forcing you to call the pet inside the bcnm.

The way it's happening for my UNM fights though, i'm calling my avatars before popping, they stay no problem.

They just get dismissed when the NM dies, I don't really understand the point of that, but I assume it's just collateral damage from the bcnm pet stat fix.
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By Odin.Foxmulder 2021-12-10 18:21:43  
Lakshmi.Avereith said: »
Yo, *** the guy that reported that, lol. So much for easy level cap bcs

You're very welcome.
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By Asura.Aeonova 2021-12-10 21:42:27  
"The issue with certain battlefields wherein pet attributes would be incorrect when master level increases under certain conditions."

Can't imagine a world where SE is made by primarily English native language speakers so the version update notes don't have to go through a translation from Japanese to English. Something always feels lost in translation.

The "Level adjustment has been abolished" one has bothered me a bit too for a while now.
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By Asura.Zigzagzig 2021-12-17 21:28:34  
Tested on Unity nm with BST > Pet depop after win

Tested on Unity nm with PUP > Pet depop after win

haven't tested on drg or smn yet !

This is pain ...... and a Bug for Sure !
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-12-17 21:30:02  
Geo bubbles despawn too now, not that it matters, they would normally despawn on pop, but worth noting.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2021-12-17 23:11:20  
Forgot about this stupid ***and had to stare at my Activate timer for 10 *** minutes before I could engage.
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By Masaru 2021-12-18 05:08:03  
I wasn‘t amused as well, when doing up in arms next day after update but I get used to it now. I’m waiting for full HP before opening the chest or doing Does Ex + light maneuver and waiting for full HP before entering the BCNM. Anyway this both makes sure “activate” is ready to use. My mule getting new orb in this time but still loosing like 1 minute because of this “fix”.
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By Asura.Zigzagzig 2021-12-18 10:12:32  
Fix ?!?!?.....

A pain yes it is..... why loosing pet ?

Specialy after using JA from HQ ....

Why not make everyone warp to HP after unity fight....

or make Wyvern from DRG go byebye and wait for the *** 20 minutes

Recast ....Hmmm why not ?

And yet again wait for cooldown from Automaton....

( someone from SE , need to be hang by the Ba..S, Period ! )
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By Pantafernando 2021-12-18 16:41:57  
Someone need to teach the difference between reporting errors and nitpicking errors.

Dont give SE the opportunity to mess even further the game unless something is already way over the tolerable limit
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2021-12-18 18:00:20  
This is an incredibly annoying ‘fix’ though. I leave one account at the BCNM while cycling though my main and mules to avoid exactly this. If they’re going to depop pets instantly like that, at least reset the *** JAs.
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 Asura.Eiryl
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-12-18 18:30:39  
Deus-Ex should be up every time just have to waste an oil, inconvenient but should be fine
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2021-12-18 18:46:05  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Deus-Ex should be up every time just have to waste an oil, inconvenient but should be fine

Ya I carry oils now for this. I don’t know why, but these small inconvenient things really drive me *** crazy.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2021-12-18 18:54:47  
I definitely understand that. Pointless irritations for no other purpose than to waste a few more precious seconds. This damned game is littered with them.

Always doing the laziest possible fixes. I assume it went down like so. Master levels are carrying over when level capped, so if we just cap the pets, after the battle they'll be uncapped and the next entrance it'll be rebroken so instead of FIXING the problem, they said just despawn ALL pets. and as a side effect, they did it to ALL instances.

There was one small issue, automatons in level capped bc's were broken (maybe bst pets), so they made all pets in all instances despawn as a fix. Cause it's less effort to do that than actually figure out why and address it.
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By SimonSes 2021-12-19 07:45:27  
Additionally what was the problem with leaving it like that? Wasn't the problem with ML pets being overpowered there connected to bug with ML giving automaton 10 skill per ML? When it was fixed the only thing that would carry over would be 20 skill and 20 stats at ML20. That would be some boost for pets in level locked instances, but it would be nothing breaking the game. The fix wasn't necessary at all. I guess on ML99 it would be more noticeable, but still that would be a small reward for making ML99. Its not like PUP can't solo this. It would only take less time. The limiting factor is seals anyway, not how fast you can spam it.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2022-01-01 22:47:16  
They ninja fix this ***? I've done 5 runs now and every time I run from the battlefield to let my other character open the coffer, Activate resets.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-01-01 23:37:37  
Activate always reset if your automaton has full HP. Even after the "fix" they implemented, I noticed my automaton disappeared but my Activate timer reset (probably because I OD w/Light). Maybe your pet never had full HP at the conclusion of the BC before, so your timer was not reset.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2022-01-01 23:49:16  
Oh, didn't know that. That's cool I guess.
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By macsdf1 2022-01-02 01:43:27  
treat your pup better and it wont run away
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2022-01-12 22:34:08  
Just did a level capped BCNM and my automaton did not disappear after the fight. The update notes don't say they fixed this specific issue, but clearly something has changed.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2022-01-12 22:35:52  
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Resolved Issues

The issue wherein leaving battlefields would occasionally cause some pets to despawn.

Luopans are still despawning (all pets maybe?) after popped battles (UNM).
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By Draylo 2022-01-12 22:51:41  
They always despawned after popping UNM
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