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 Phoenix.Miraun
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By Phoenix.Miraun 2022-08-20 12:20:10  
It was either Skillchain kills, or quantity of Magic Bursts/MB damages for Shard/Medal in C. A SAM was doing Lights, and I was MBing... a light SC kill spawned a chest, and another a few mobs later with the same approach. Given the details we're learning from A, it may have been quantity of the same approach that led to the drops.
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-08-20 12:34:13  
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Tinfoil hat time:

Has anyone had any "repeated" drops from the same source, be it red boxes or area bosses?

We've had a Case from Obdella red box, a Case from A boss, A case from gold box and a sapphire from B boss, but all of these things individually have only happened ONCE, repetitions have yielded nothing. Our very first obdella on patch day gave a case from the red box, all others have yielded nothing. Not sure if its a very low chance, or if there is something wider going on, perhaps everything is once only until main boss is killed and then zone resets/temps are all lost?
Had an Old Case and later a Sapphire drop from Obdella.
 
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By Asura.Seraphical 2022-08-20 12:50:56  
I can attest to the Sapphire and Old Chest drop from the Obdella NM, got one on my first run.
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2022-08-20 13:12:25  
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Tried various 10k Magic kills for Metal A tonight. Tried all types of mobs, all elements, MB kills from 10%/20%/30% up to 50%, tried non-MB kills from 12% hp (more than 10k hp).

None of these worked, it's something else doing it.

You need to do 100% of the damage using magic (or something close to it). I got it easily today by simply spamming ninjutsu magic on 5 mobs and not meleeing it. Video on previous page goes over it.

Sorry, just now replying to this. I'm talking about A, not B. The B one is 100% magic, the A is magic kill. Regardless, we tried that as well and nothing worked.

edit: I see I was going off of old information anyway now, so ignore the above. I think I only tried 1 monster down from 100% magic, but we also got the shard in B that way and it wasn't an opposite elemental kill when it dropped last night. Fire VI was on cooldown so I nuked with Thunder 6 on an ice elemental and we got the B chest.
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By Asura.Nyarlko 2022-08-20 13:13:45  
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Why does it do Box -> ??? earring -> Earring NQ/+1/+2? Why not just Box -> Earring NQ/+1/+2?

Probably because the loot table isn't big enough? :/
22jobs x 3tiers = 66 items, and I'd bet that the usable item system can't handle more than 32 or 64 possible results.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-08-20 13:19:28  
Asura.Nyarlko said: »
Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Why does it do Box -> ??? earring -> Earring NQ/+1/+2? Why not just Box -> Earring NQ/+1/+2?

Probably because the loot table isn't big enough? :/
22jobs x 3tiers = 66 items, and I'd bet that the usable item system can't handle more than 32 or 64 possible results.
It's exactly the same size loot table as if it just gave the earrings themselves. The ??? earrings are also split into NQ, +1, and +2 versions.
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By Guyford 2022-08-20 13:35:33  
There's no +2 cases tho, so its 44 items instead of 66, 44 < 64.

Edit: By which I mean nq case can give nq or +1 earring, +1 case can give +1 or +2 earring, so 44 possibilities for each type of case.

Edit again: And yet I see your the point that the ??? earring step is still pointless so I guess it has to do with having the right aug table loaded?

I'll shut up now.
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By Chimerawizard 2022-08-20 13:39:04  
i'm of the impression they were unsure if they'd make ??? earrings able to be bazaar'd. they stack to 99.
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By Asura.Geriond 2022-08-20 13:39:27  
Again, that's the same situation as if they just gave the earrings directly.

Current: Case > 44 possible ??? earrings > 1 earring each
Theoretical: Case > 44 possible earrings
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2022-08-20 13:56:09  
Asura.Geriond said: »
Again, that's the same situation as if they just gave the earrings directly.

Current: Case > 44 possible ??? earrings > 1 earring each
Theoretical: Case > 44 possible earrings

Well, two possibilities. One is that they still would have wanted the buyer to have to roll the dice on the augment. The other is, is it even possible to bazaar or trade augmented items? As I sit here I can't think of any examples. It may not be!
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By Ragnarok.Kanryu 2022-08-20 14:00:45  
Alrighty lads and lasses havn't done this update post in a day or two due to FNM.

Zone A -

1/7 - Key #A - Open the door at D-4
2/7 - Plate #A - Self-cast anything at I-5 teleporter
3/7 - Shard #A - Magic kills 10k-20k (Full to dead from Blu. Exact details still sketch but we have done this x6 now. We tried only 3 and it did not work. Conditions may vary somehow?)
4/7 - Metal #A - Magic kills 10k-20k (Do the same thing again.)
5/7 - Blue Casket - Kill x5
6/7 - Blue Casket - Rest on the raised floor immediately after the D-4 door
7/7 - Red Coffer - Kill Obdella

Zone B -

1/7 - Key #B - Open all B gates in order from 1 to 6. Gobbo posted already so I undid the redact I did and we can confirm this is what we did.
2/7 - Plate #B - /hurray at Device B (maybe other cheery emotes? sad ones /cry and /sigh did not work)
3/7 - Shard #B - Magic Kills Opposite Element Kills? (Fuzzy on exact conditions.)
4/7 - Metal #B - Magic Kills Weak Element? Dupe again? (Fuzzy on exact conditions.)
5/7 - Blue Casket - Skillchain kill? (Fuzzy on exact conditions. We have gotten this exactly once and do not know the conditions. It was in the Light/Water/Ice room.)
6/7 - Blue Casket - Open a locked B door.
7/7 - Red Coffer - Kill Porxie, exact conditions wildly suspect. We've tried SC matching entry day, t1s, t2, t3s, MB kills and Leaden at 19%. We've never gotten red.

Zone C -

1/7 - Key #C - Open the door at N-10
2/7 - Plate #C - Kill a C enemy next to Device C. (We did try nearby D fomors and they did not work.)
3/7 - Shard #C - Light SC on ghouls? Didn't work for us. We did 8 Corses with light SC damage being the killing blow and 4 Ghouls timed out on the 5th one. Might be some additional condition?
4/7 - Metal #C - (See above)
5/7 - Blue Casket -
6/7 - Blue Casket -
7/7 - Red Coffer - Kill Bhoot (we presume special condition?) Did 5 step light to kill today. We've killed with Divine Emblem Banish 3. We've melee only. Unsure trigger.

Zone D -

1/7 - Key #D - Open gates D-2 and D-1 within a certain timeframe of each other. (We've seen 5 minutes, but we're usually under one with bolters+sneakga+invisga.)
2/7 - Plate #D -
3/7 - Shard #D -
4/7 - Metal #D -
5/7 - Blue Casket - Killed entire party at H-9 or F-6. (We have now done both fomor "parties" of WHM RDM WAR MNK BLM THF. Might be first time killing one of each job?)
6/7 - Blue Casket -
7/7 - Red Coffer - Kill NM and then other fomors. We are 6/6 on it now. Exact conditions unknown but it always spawns from a different fomor after it dies.

Misc Fun Facts -

We can confirm this is our second Sapphire from the leech's Red Coffer. We can also now confirm it is possible to get both Red Coffer and Aurum Coffer from an NM at the same time.


Being out of exp range will not give you the spoils of a chest.
It appears that you need to be in range both when the chest spawns and when it is opened to get credit for the drops.
This only applies to the final step of a multi-location puzzle. (i.e. only gotta be at door 06. Not at all 5 along the way.)

Boss rooms (gadgets) have doors that will slam shut once you engage the boss. Make sure everyone is inside or you're likely screwed.

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By Asura.Aldolol 2022-08-20 14:04:33  
Leshonn update for elemental kills - killed both Thunder and Air Elementals - did *** all to Leshonn, he started in wind hands and just absolutely destroyed me - constantly 1.5k damage and the like, tried to use aero to remove the hands and just wouldn't go.

On a side note, seeing people get Sapphire drops left and right must be nice, currently had 1 from the runs I've done :(
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By Heghmoh 2022-08-20 14:15:20  
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On a side note, seeing people get Sapphire drops left and right must be nice, currently had 1 from the runs I've done :(


alright Mr Lucky, stop parading your RNG around...some of us have run every 20 hours on cooldown, have 25k+ currency, but refuse to spend it until we get a sapphire drop and still have seen 0.
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2022-08-20 14:18:57  
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Leshonn update for elemental kills - killed both Thunder and Air Elementals - did *** all to Leshonn, he started in wind hands and just absolutely destroyed me - constantly 1.5k damage and the like, tried to use aero to remove the hands and just wouldn't go.

On a side note, seeing people get Sapphire drops left and right must be nice, currently had 1 from the runs I've done :(

Removing an element by curing him only works when he has both hands going at the same time. I don't think you can remove both, or at least by that method.

You definitely need a tank for him if you are trying without metal and cocoon if you are BLU/BLU (or w/e defensive boost you have). He was still hitting us for like 850 (mages in dt) and I don't recall doing anything special to make him more survivable, we just went in like any NM fight.
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2022-08-20 14:20:29  
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Asura.Aldolol said: »

On a side note, seeing people get Sapphire drops left and right must be nice, currently had 1 from the runs I've done :(


alright Mr Lucky, stop parading your RNG around...some of us have run every 20 hours on cooldown, have 25k+ currency, but refuse to spend it until we get a sapphire drop and still have seen 0.

My alt got a sapphire, but has no muffins. My main has many muffins and no sapphire. I are sad panda.
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By Asura.Aquatiq 2022-08-20 14:34:50  
The Zone A magic kills 10k-20k seems to allow for more than 20k, got them with BLM spamming tier 4-6 blizzard for 17k-28k, both kill shots were >20k
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By Weeew 2022-08-20 14:38:17  
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We killed a Ghoul in C with a Light SC for the C Shard coffer
Did it again a few more times for the Metal in C

We have been having a hard time getting the Light Skillchain on Ghouls to work for shard + metal... I am sure there is something else to this. Can you tell us a little more about which job, WS, any magic used?
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By Bahamut.Svedin 2022-08-20 14:38:27  
idk if it has been reported already but we just got 2 drops from one chest.
 
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By Asura.Cthaeh 2022-08-20 14:45:58  
Asura.Aquatiq said: »
The Zone A magic kills 10k-20k seems to allow for more than 20k, got them with BLM spamming tier 4-6 blizzard for 17k-28k, both kill shots were >20k

At this point, I'm guessing it's just like the Vagary mechanic which is a random number of times between 5-20.
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By Ragnarok.Kanryu 2022-08-20 14:49:52  
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We killed a Ghoul in C with a Light SC for the C Shard coffer
Did it again a few more times for the Metal in C

We have been having a hard time getting the Light Skillchain on Ghouls to work for shard + metal... I am sure there is something else to this. Can you tell us a little more about which job, WS, any magic used?

Same here. We were doing Upheaval to Black Halo for a huge light which dealt the killshot. We tried it on 8 corse and 4 ghouls, nada. Also curious about the conditions since we didn't seem able to repeat it. (For sure not saying that it isn't true.
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By Felgarr 2022-08-20 14:51:24  
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i'm of the impression they were unsure if they'd make ??? earrings able to be bazaar'd. they stack to 99.

I'm off the impression that SE will make these earrings bazaarable after a few months, just like Dynamis shards. These were also Ex for a few months and easily obtained from random sources for a while, like gobbie box, etc....and made sellable a few months later
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By Chimerawizard 2022-08-20 14:52:16  
Asura.Cthaeh said: »
Asura.Aquatiq said: »
The Zone A magic kills 10k-20k seems to allow for more than 20k, got them with BLM spamming tier 4-6 blizzard for 17k-28k, both kill shots were >20k

At this point, I'm guessing it's just like the Vagary mechanic which is a random number of times between 5-20.
same, i did 3 acuex kills w/ only blu spells in an updated nuke set. my nukes killed them a bit quicker and we didn't get the chest#a3 from it, probably 10k+ *??

i don't think the number is random, maybe based on participants, but probably static if party size is the same.
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By cuddlyhamster 2022-08-20 15:10:25  
Bahamut.Svedin said: »
idk if it has been reported already but we just got 2 drops from one chest.

Would like to chime in that our group has also gotten double drop off of red box from obdella.

I've also gotten an old case from blue and a sapphire from a blue. both in A one was from kill 5 obj and other was from rest on platform obj.
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By Bahamut.Svedin 2022-08-20 15:27:38  
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Bahamut.Svedin said: »
idk if it has been reported already but we just got 2 drops from one chest.

What chest, what objective, what zone etc etc. Also had you had any of these from this specific chest before?

It was from the obdella, and yes we have had both chest and sapphires single drops from it before.

EDIT: because I am stupid
 
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By Bahamut.Svedin 2022-08-20 16:30:11  
Just killed the fomor NM and then 3 white mages, one with AF, one with Relic and one with Empyrean armor and got a red chest.
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