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By Mrxi 2022-08-25 19:23:56  
Wonder if Casket #B1 has something to do with what room porxie is in would explain why so random, maybe pull it to a other room and kill ele in not same room, or same room?
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2022-08-25 20:25:03  
Mrxi said: »
Wonder if Casket #B1 has something to do with what room porxie is in would explain why so random, maybe pull it to a other room and kill ele in not same room, or same room?
The only time I managed to get Casket #B1, we had Porxie aggro right next to us. I thought "do objective with Porxie aggro" sounded stupid, but maybe not.
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By Asura.Splendid 2022-08-25 22:51:09  
Any idea how to blue proc this gentleman?

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By Quetzalcoatl.Jakey 2022-08-25 23:00:59  
Asura.Splendid said: »
Any idea how to blue proc this gentleman?

Darkness SCs has worked pretty consistently for us.
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By Shiva.Cziella 2022-08-25 23:55:42  
Emergency Maintenance on Leafallia, think they are fixing the sapphire/muffins upgrade bug?
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By Fenrir.Positron 2022-08-26 00:04:16  
Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but I had assumed that Leshonn's Chokehold dispels buffs -- seems like it can actually steal them. I lost Retaliation and then a moment later two of our members got destroyed by it.
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[21:27:16]Leshonn readies Chokehold.
[21:27:16]Zerojai takes 204 points of damage.
[21:27:16]Positron takes 3 points of damage.
[21:27:16]Velner takes 169 points of damage.
[21:27:16]Evilonion takes 127 points of damage.
[21:27:16]Juliaghoulia takes 147 points of damage.
[21:27:17]Positron's Stoneskin effect wears off.
[21:27:17][2] Leshonn retaliates. Velner takes 537 points of damage.
[21:27:18]Zerojai's attack is countered by Leshonn. Zerojai takes 448 points of damage.
[21:27:20]Positron's attack is countered by Leshonn. Positron takes 682 points of damage.
[21:27:20]Leshonn retaliates. Positron takes 384 points of damage.
[21:27:21][2] Leshonn retaliates. Zerojai takes 839 points of damage.
[21:27:22]Blocked! Leshonn hits Positron for 1140 points of damage.
[21:27:23]Zerojai's attack is countered by Leshonn. Zerojai takes 508 points of damage.
[21:27:23][2] Leshonn retaliates. Positron takes 962 points of damage.
[21:27:24][3] Leshonn retaliates. Zerojai takes 1422 points of damage.
[21:27:24]Zerojai was defeated by Leshonn.
[21:27:27][2] Leshonn retaliates. Positron takes 996 points of damage.
[21:27:29]Positron's attack is countered by Leshonn. Positron takes 467 points of damage.
[21:27:29]Leshonn retaliates. Positron takes 462 points of damage.
[21:27:30]Leshonn retaliates. Positron takes 473 points of damage.
[21:27:31]Leshonn hits Positron for 614 points of damage.
[21:27:31]Positron was defeated by Leshonn.
[21:27:31]Evilonion defeats Leshonn.
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By Ragnarok.Kanryu 2022-08-26 00:37:23  
Alrighty lads and lasses it's been four days since our last info dump and it is slowing down.

Spoilered-out triggers that are 100% replicated to save space and your eyes. I will now make objectives we know work but are for sure not correct in blue. Do blue ones in the listed way exactly to hit the proc. We don't know why, so there will be other ways to hit it. Feel free to read... all 40 pages of the thread and contribute if you wish!

This event is meant to be fun so figuring out the exact triggers is just as valid a use of your entry as route planning and smashing all bosses or just single box farming what you can. Go wild! Maybe you'll hit one of the missing objectives by accident!

Zone A -

Zone B -
5/7 - Blue Casket #1 - Skillchains then kill? Might have to be done before Porxie kill? (Fuzzy on exact conditions. Can anyone confirm getting this after killing the Porxie?)
7/7 - Red Coffer - Kill Porxie. Appears to just require earning Blue Casket #1 first? (Can anyone confirm Red without Blue Casket #1?)

Zone C -
5/7 - Blue Casket #1 - Unsure exactly what is triggering it. Fast kills, heavy WS, Light SCs appear to trigger this. Far from sure of exact conditions.
6/7 - Blue Casket #2 - We are presuming the pattern holds and this is a non-combat objective.
7/7 - Red Coffer - Kill Bhoot (several people have hit this, but do not know why.)

Zone D -
6/7 - Blue Casket #2 - We are presuming the pattern holds and this is a non-combat objective. Reportedly kill AF > Relic > Empy in that order of the same job in a row. We have tried this multiple times. It either needs extra steps, we are doing something wrong, or this is not actually the objective.


Zone D Boss - Degei
  • Absorbs damage based on most recent TP move. Blue proc by nuking the opposite element. See Perfidien for weaponskill elemental associations.


Misc Fun Facts -

  • We can confirm repeat sapphires from the same on different runs.

  • We can also now confirm it is possible to get both Red Coffer and Aurum Coffer from the last NM at the same time.

  • We can confirm sapphires from blue chests.

  • Boss rooms (gadgets) have doors that will slam shut once you engage the boss. Make sure everyone is inside or you're likely screwed.


[The below is now proven false. We either have bad logs from night #1 or something else was happening in the first few hours.]
Being out of exp range will not give you the spoils of a chest.
It appears that you need to be in range both when the chest spawns and when it is opened to get credit for the drops.


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By Asura.Shiraj 2022-08-26 02:48:00  
So if you didn't know, Aegis Schism's -90% Defense down effect CAN land on you WITHOUT the actual attack landing. It's as if the defense down effect has a separate check that does not require the attack landing. So even if you're Parrying you have a chance to die from it.

Edit: reviewed vod on 0.5x speed multiple times, definitely caused by packet loss.
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By Asura.Shaedhen 2022-08-26 02:58:26  
For A Shard/Metal, our group just have SCH doing liquefaction SC (could be any I guess) and bursting fire V on acuex, and the GEO using malaise and bursting too, doing 99K bursts and it always worked so far, 6 mobs total to get both shard and metal.
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By Cerberus.Echohawk 2022-08-26 04:48:48  
For shard/plate A,.I think it'd be easier to notice if these testimonies we're more easily comparable.
Outside of discounting the accuracy of at least some of what's posted I'm thinking there's something else affecting the "acceptable damage window." Such as:
1: Party size (non trust or pet ofc)
2: damage is calculated pre magic burst
3: damage is calculated pre mab/mdb factors and/or just malaise (least likely imo)

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By Fenrir.Aladeus 2022-08-26 05:32:27  
Ragnarok.Kanryu said: »
Alrighty lads and lasses it's been four days since our last info dump and it is slowing down.

Can confirm B 3/7 is not through magic ws. I was using torcleaver > torcleaver to kill them. No magic ws.
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By Asura.Jokes 2022-08-26 05:55:29  
Did the Porxie today after opening Casket #B1 and Chests B2 & B3 (and also did skillchain on Porxie) and didn't get the chest.

Also zoned up to fight Leshonn midway through the run and he wasn't there! glitched.
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By Asura.Shiraj 2022-08-26 06:06:12  
Asura.Jokes said: »
Did the Porxie today after opening Casket #B1 and Chests B2 & B3 (and also did skillchain on Porxie) and didn't get the chest.

Also zoned up to fight Leshonn midway through the run and he wasn't there! glitched.
So I reviewed the vod of our group's run. We actually got the porxie chest to drop. We got Casket #B1, Chest #B2, #B3 and #B4. We killed Porxie with Savage/Black halo/Dimiation only.
I will note: We killed Porxie after Leshonn, maybe that has something to do with it.

Edit:
Only killed SOME Ice, Water and Light elementals.
Debuffs applied throughout porxie fight: Dia 3 + Ice spikes Paralysis

WS numbers throughout the fight: 41,995 / 26,349 / 28,304 / 32,920 /35,398 / 17,986 / 38,395 / 49,099 / 38,461 <- this one killed it.

Hopefully any of this info lines up with anything others have got to narrow some things down.
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By Asura.Hamburgerz 2022-08-26 07:01:10  
I killed the Bhoot NM yesterday and got his red coffer. All I had done is unlock a B door to get to C. I opened no C Gates. Fighting the Bhoot I only used Drk with Torcleaver and no debuffs. My log showed at least 3 light skillchains (none bursted) and a few unchained Torcleavers. The kill shot was a Torcleaver for about 20k. Some Torcleavers spiked to about 32k during the fight. No clue, possibly the light skillchains? Maybe the damage and number of WS? Good luck lol.

Edit: I just got the Logger addon and will try the same thing on my run today.
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By Asura.Jokes 2022-08-26 07:25:21  
Someone has to take one for the team and go in every day for a week testing the NM kills under specific variables :D
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-08-26 08:02:59  
Tried to get the red chest off the ghost NM. Repopped it a few times. Tried using multistep skillchains, dark and light skillchains. Killing it with skillchain damage. Nothing worked so far.

All kills were on iceday and at one point dark weather.

Maybe it's related to having a specific debuff on it? Couldn't test it on my Cor.
Or maybe kill speed?

I saw it spawn in the corse room and in the tunnels leading to Gadget C. But seen it wander as far as the dark elemental room.
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By Bismarck.Havenx 2022-08-26 08:03:55  
So I dont know if anyone has posted this or not yet. I know we confirmed you can get chest/muffins etc anywhere in the zone long as you are in party. I was soloing some objectives, while others went to fight Zone A big boss, and when they killed him I didn't get anything.
So that warp to new area does in fact not give you anything if you dont teleport with them.
Took one for the team XD
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By Odin.Bangla 2022-08-26 08:04:58  
Bismarck.Havenx said: »
So I dont know if anyone has posted this or not yet. I know we confirmed you can get chest/muffins etc anywhere in the zone long as you are in party. I was soloing some objectives, while others went to fight Zone A big boss, and when they killed him I didn't get anything.
So that warp to new area does in fact not give you anything if you dont teleport with them.
Took one for the team XD
It has been mentioned. However, if you warp up but get locked outside the room, you get credit for the kill including drops.
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2022-08-26 08:49:55  
Has anybody received an old earring or sapphire from a Chest? (brown chests)

I personally received an old earring from a blue casket - specifically the one where you /heal in the platform room, so I can confirm they are obtained from blue chests at least.
 
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By Ragnarok.Kanryu 2022-08-26 09:13:46  
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Ragnarok.Kanryu said: »
Alrighty lads and lasses it's been four days since our last info dump and it is slowing down.

Can confirm B 3/7 is not through magic ws. I was using torcleaver > torcleaver to kill them. No magic ws.

Ya, this is a confusing one. Last night both of the brown chests in B came from my BRD doing 5-step light on Umbrils. Burning > Fast > Burning > Flat > Savage. But the night before they were earned by my COR doing leaden only (without SC) on Fire Eles.

So I'd bet it's either one as long as you are doing weak element damage? Something along that lines since both seems to trigger it.
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By Ragnarok.Siyual 2022-08-26 10:08:01  
Ragnarok.Kanryu said: »
Fenrir.Aladeus said: »
Ragnarok.Kanryu said: »
Alrighty lads and lasses it's been four days since our last info dump and it is slowing down.

Can confirm B 3/7 is not through magic ws. I was using torcleaver > torcleaver to kill them. No magic ws.

Ya, this is a confusing one. Last night both of the brown chests in B came from my BRD doing 5-step light on Umbrils. Burning > Fast > Burning > Flat > Savage. But the night before they were earned by my COR doing leaden only (without SC) on Fire Eles.

So I'd bet it's either one as long as you are doing weak element damage? Something along that lines since both seems to trigger it.

I experienced similar results last night solo on BLM. Using Ayame and doing Kasha > Vidohunir on Light Elementals never triggered it. But doing the same on Earth Elementals did.

Vidohunir is dark-based, but Kasha > Vido is Light. Could it be something as simple as doing an element-based WS of an opposing element (darkness from Leaden on Fire elements, since Fire is Light-aligned, and Light SC on Ice elements, as they're Dark-aligned?). Maybe I'm overthinking things, but it sounds like whatever the last damage it took was an element it's weak to is the trigger.
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By Bismarck.Havenx 2022-08-26 10:37:03  
Bismarck.Havenx said: »
Odin.Bangla said: »
Bismarck.Havenx said: »
So I dont know if anyone has posted this or not yet. I know we confirmed you can get chest/muffins etc anywhere in the zone long as you are in party. I was soloing some objectives, while others went to fight Zone A big boss, and when they killed him I didn't get anything.
So that warp to new area does in fact not give you anything if you dont teleport with them.
Took one for the team XD
It has been mentioned. However, if you warp up but get locked outside the room, you get credit for the kill including drops.

good to know thanks
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By Ultimaetus 2022-08-26 11:49:14  
Has anyone ever seen the Porxie in the umbria area? I'm considering just routing the long way to C to optimize time if he doesn't
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By Cerberus.Shadowmeld 2022-08-26 11:51:56  
Yes, I've seen it in the Light/Ice/Water elemental area, Umbrils, and Fire/Dark elemental areas.
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By Vaerix 2022-08-26 11:52:33  
Ultimaetus said: »
Has anyone ever seen the Porxie in the umbria area? I'm considering just routing the long way to C to optimize time if he doesn't

Very first run he was deep in umbril. Good luck with pathing.
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By Bismarck.Sterk 2022-08-26 12:08:49  
Got Casket #C1 today unintentionally as we were just going for the Metal and Shard objectives. The way the mob that dropped the Casket died went:
Expiacion 28379 > Last Stand 12411 > Fire 4 MB 77661 > Fire 3 MB 38761 (Same person did both MBs) > Auto Attack kill.

Notable differences from our usual runs was we made Fusion instead of our usual Light, and we had 1 person MBing instead of our usual 2. We got it on the same kill as Chest #C4.
 
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By Asura.Hamburgerz 2022-08-26 15:28:20  
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I killed the Bhoot NM yesterday and got his red coffer. All I had done is unlock a B door to get to C. I opened no C Gates. Fighting the Bhoot I only used Drk with Torcleaver and no debuffs. My log showed at least 3 light skillchains (none bursted) and a few unchained Torcleavers. The kill shot was a Torcleaver for about 20k. Some Torcleavers spiked to about 32k during the fight. No clue, possibly the light skillchains? Maybe the damage and number of WS? Good luck lol.

Edit: I just got the Logger addon and will try the same thing on my run today.

I killed the Bhoot today no red coffer drop. No debuffs, 4 light sc no mb. The 4th light sc damage was the killing blow. I had no ws over 30k today unlike yesterday and I did find him differently. I had not opened any B locked doors. I did open a C gate and a D locked gate to get to him. No other C mobs fought prior on either day.

I'll try to replicate the same open B locked, no C gates tomorrow and try only 3 light sc no mb and either ws or white damage kill.
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By Fenrir.Melphina 2022-08-26 15:47:22  
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Any idea how to blue proc this gentleman?

Earth nukes when his hand is thunder, or ice nukes when his hand is wind has worked for us very well.
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