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Do you find better luck with higher tier nukes?

Is there any coming back from when he has both hands with an element?

I'd really like to understand his mechanics better. Feel like sometimes he comes out the gates swinging (literally) for the fences and it's just overwhelming. Other times the damage seems to just build up over time, sometimes quickly. It's not fun getting auto-attacked for 2k+ dmg in full DT...

Edit: Also curious if there's an understanding of what causes the elements to appear on his hands. I've seen him spawn with different elements.

Anyone have any information on sapphire/case drop rates in regards to going in solo versus going in with multiple people?

We only had him up with both elements on one run I think. And I've gone in on both geomancer and blm and procced him by nuking strong element. I'm pretty sure I was nuking low tier nukes on geo and mid tier nukes on blm so I don't think the tier matters one bit. Just make sure to change your nukes when he swaps modes. Hit thunder with earth and hit wind with ice. It's worked every time so far.

I think someone suggested when he has both elements up to go with whatever his right hand is, but I haven't had any firsthand experience with it so unless there's confirmation somewhere that's just speculation.

I received Bhoot red chest today, notable things I did for the kill:

Killed Obdella + Porxie and their red chests dropped.
Had no Aggro in C until I killed the Bhoot, the bhoot did not aggro me either, I pulled the bhoot (cog mechanic maybe?)
I did a 4 step light consisting of Fudo > Kasha > Shoha > Fudo
On the last Fudo I did a Fire5 from GEO which did 30k +

Hope these help some people react what I did and get a ches themselves

Has anyone actually got physical evidence of a Brown Chest giving them anything but Muffins, right now I am doing them due to the potential but I find it sus after 10(?) runs, i've never once seen a brown drop anything but muffins.

Hmm, I thought of something. What if Chest A 2/3 is just as simple as killing them without using WS's?

And Chest B2/3 Is just as simple as killing them without using magic?

Or, at least. Maybe those are the requirements for Chest A/B2 and A/B 3 is some sort of a step up from that?

It's definitely not the case for A 2/3 as I've done pure white damage to no avail. Others have reported setting up MBs with Weaponskills in A, as well, but personally that has not worked for me even when using L1 weapons.

That's what we generally have seen. We have used Enspells/nukes/Auto attacks on A3/4 and still get the chest. The only thing I think I noticed is if people are doing AOE's like BLU to kill a bunch. Swap your target to a different mob to tag each one. We have had to kill more than 6 before so today I pulled 6 as the BLU and would just choose a different one to nuke. By the time all 6 died I instantly got all 3 of the boxes, chests A3/4 and Casket 1.

B3/4 I just tell the group to just WS kill them. We use both physical and Magical WS's and we do aim to kill them with the weaponskill and tend to always get Chest B3 after 5 kills and B4 after another 5 kills consistently.

What isn't consistent is Casket B1. Every run while the party goes to get Chests A3/4. I teleport to fire elements and leaden spam them. In the last 5 runs I have had different results.

Run 1 got after 4 fire elemental kills
Run 2 got after 5 fire elemental kills
Run 3 Didn't get at all that run (Think I killed about 5 fire elements before having to run to A boss)
Run 4 Got after killing 3 fire elements

Fought and killed the same way.

I think it may be tied to kill speed. Looking at Eijin's kill where he also killed it very fast. I tried replicating the skillchains on cor but my kill speed was very slow and I can't do it.

Same here, been keeping an eye out for that and nothing so far. We have had stuff from the blue caskets / red coffers and Gold Aurum but nothing from the brown chests

anddd stopped at the bold

We got the red chest without touching Leshonn. Unfortunately I had been drinking and that is all I remember.

Reports given to me of repeat Porxie chest by opening Casket #B1 (BLUE chest) without aggroing Porxie.

Edit: Additionally these two posts are worth trying to replicate

not sure if someone mentioned, but JP tweet references Ghatjot's water absorb trait describes the excess water damage returned almost similar to Glassy Thinker's Pain Sync move. Triples the water damage received and returns it once. I know we all just avoid water damage anyways, but good info the note anyways. Also listed his resistance ranks.

https://mobile.twitter.com/long_horned/status/1559999930533457920

If you follow the quote tweets and comments and translate them, there's also commentary mentioning How SAM hybrid WS destroys this guy with Goten > Kagero > Koki, close to capped damage and wonders whether Ninja may have similar success. Good reads if you're bored

Also apparently Skomora vulnerable to Kagero for capped damage

https://mobile.twitter.com/Aramith9/status/1563201066245967872

Solo DRG. Teleported to C and got charmed while fighting a corse at the C device. After charm wore off, I picked up the bhoot and dragged it to the C device instead. Only support trusts used. Spammed Camlann for 4 light SC total on bhoot. Received #C2 chest only.

Respawned sector C, then added Shanto to the trust lineup. Proceeded without aggro to the bhoot and spammed Camlann for 3 light SC total. Shanto performed several fire and thunder MBs. Red coffer dropped.

We found that if A,B boss and mini NMs are dead that if you kill the Bhoot with nothing else aggrod or killed in C he will drop his red chest. If you already aggro'd anything / killed something in C you can reset C and kill bhoot and still get the red chest. Some additional requirements might not be required like mini NMs killed further testing is required. Aggroing anything in C might not matter either that also needs to be tested.

My speculation is just B boss needs to be killed so next run I will go for lebron first then kill bhoot to see if he drops chest. If not I'll add A boss and try bhoot again.

Poor speculation. I got coffer yesterday from ghost. I havent killed any bosses.

When we got the red coffer off the boot we hadn’t killed any bosses. It was our third mini NM. Killed it mostly with Light SC and having several DD on it. I still suspect its based on speed.

Just analyzing the objectives, they seem to come in pairs where the objectives are related.

I think the link is between Shard and Metal objectives, mini-NM and casket #1, Key and casket #2.

If we assume that casket C #1 is based on fast kills with skillchains. Bhoot could be similar to that.

Based on this assumption I have tried getting casket D #2 by opening all locked D doors, but it wasn’t successful.

I've killed him pretty slow and still got a coffer.

Ok then how about deal mostly light-based damage to it? I have tried doing multi-step creating dark and light skillchains but would have to retry doing only light.

People reporting coffers seem to be getting it from heavy light-based skillchain damage.

How about being constructive? In that run did you get the B blue casket 1 ? After did you kill the porxie to collect the red chest? Did you do anything in A first. The more info we the the quicker we can narrow this down. Do you happen to have logs or video to review?

Today alone we were able to get the red coffer from the bhoot in 4 different runs between my friends using the method I listed earlier. (Each run we also got the Blue casket 1 in B / killed porxie before doing bhoot)

Literally killed it with only savage and got chest.

Could you please repeat the method? Will try it with my group. I usually kill the Bhoot now before anyone had a chance to kill the porxie NM, maybe putting it lower on the priority list would allow it to drop the coffer?

What you mean by slow? how long exactly?

Also what if there are few triggers for red coffer from mini nms? Maybe its random or maybe its absed on several objectives from area. Maybe you need to use weapon skills with light aligned WSs. There is literally TOO many possibilities if you think everything can be a factor and if maybe there is more than one trigger. SE should make some hint mechanic like abyssea or voidwatch.


I am being constructive by deconstructing your theory. Knwoing what isnt a factor is a much valuable as knowing what is possible factor. Ultimately if there is few triggers and we dont know about it, we will cancel out different triggers based on theory that it's only one. Idk I feel we might never find it like that. We dont even know what exactly works for A shard/metal and it seems to be much easier to figure out considering we know its something with nukes.

So, hey, I just want to toss this out 'cause I don't see anyone talking about it. I have only seen Tainted from Ghatjot in fights where I didn't have the metal to weaken it. My running theory is that this is, if not the main effect of the item, at least one of them. Would love to see data to definitively confirm or deny.

Was thinking about procs today and the non-combat objective theory.

Has anyone tried using the job emote of the particular job you are fighting on the Fomors in D? i.e. use /jobemote RDM on a RDM?

Other thought would be, what if its /jobemote ___ on a ___ when you are on job ___. As in, /jobemote WHM on a WHM fomor coming from our party's WHM?

It is kind of ruined by the guy who said they got Casket #2 from killing AF > Relic > Empy on the same job or something, but it was a thought. I also would wonder if killing blow coming from the mirror job would impact in any way.

All speculation at this point - I haven't tried any of the above but I may this weekend.

We've always fought him with the metal, and he just seems to have a weak enpoison that pales to sch regen.

Just went in as RDM and the Bhoot was the very first thing I aggroed and it did not drop the box.

For some reason, skeletons and course aggro to sight, which is unusual for their family types. I suspect this is a bug, similar to Weapons in Sheol being aggressive to low HP. They are the only two monsters that vary from their family's detection pattern