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Killing Botulus is probably a time waste.
Killing anything in E is also a time waste unless your target is to get blue or red chests.

Basically, I am just trying to maximize my chances for Starstones, none so far.

I did the four NMs and pop the upper floor Aurum coffer. Since the Metal/Shard A chests got messed up after update, I skipped Ghatjot and went for the 3 easier chests in the basement to try my luck.

Botulus chest can't drop Starstone and killing mobs in E without doing it specifically for one of the chests also wont give you Starstone, that's why I think it's a waste of time.

I will try switching to Casket #E1 and Casket #E2.

Casket #H1 is easier but don't have the entry item for Area H yet. Would probably take a dedicated run to clear all the fomors in Area D solo.

I feel like we are just assuming that killing all the fomors in area D is the only way to gain access to the basement. Has anyone noticed the fact that Deleterious cycles appearances? You also can get a chest by killing three fomors after it dies. Would it be a stretch to suggest that maybe you need to kill either three mobs that wear similar AF pieces of the same race, or a certain group of them? Because, I mean, if you kill all of them it will cover this sort of thing—just a thought.

Question about Chest #B5.
"Walk from the start". Can you cheat and use the locked gates (provided you have the keys of course) or do you really have to do the full walk?


Also in the E/F/G/H zones, is there any mob that has true sight/sound aggro?

Walking from the locked gates is still walking. I went straight forward from the start through D to Device A then south in just under 2 mins last night. Still got the plate.


It is possible. We did significant investigating into this so far as to parse his armor and ensure we were killing the right things back at the start of Sortie (prior to the basement and knowing the job list order). It may make a difference since the system to spawn his properties appears to be unique in the game, but nothing ever came of it. I can return it to blue in the guide node I made if you'd prefer but we have killed a good chunk of them without getting the plate until they were all down. It is possible we didn't kill the right combination but I'm starting to doubt it.

The chest doesn't spawn until the very last fomor in the zone dies. Yes, you have to kill them all. I speak from experience here.

Missed this part.

Also as far as I am aware nothing agros true. However, enemies in the basement have a vagary style party hate mechanic, or worse. If anything has agro on a single member of the party, even sneak'd/invis'd people will also be placed on its hate list regardless of distance from whoever did the agro. This makes it a little annoying to try and cheese the H blue chest by sending one person forward alone.

Might only be true in H but it is very relevant there.

I can't speak to whether it's all mobs in the basement - guess I have a new project for my next science run - but there are definitely some in F and G at least. One run, I was doing a solo dash through F to trip the naakuals while the rest of the party waited at the entrance; bitzer was in the pixie room, and one spotted me as I left. A few minutes later, one angry pixie's rushing the party as we set up to fight some baby delve bosses.

Exciting new MPK opportunities await in this month's brand-new Sortie basement experience...

Dark Ixion appears to be truesight. He aggroed our bard the other day when he ran past, and the bard was stealthed at the time.

Have you, or anyone else, tried killing all formors in the D boss entrance room and then checking?

Edit: Well the room right before the boss teleport.

I'm not sure anyone has attempted this but feel free to try and report back your findings, deleterious isn't a part of the objective if that makes anyone feel better, got sheet after killing every normal fomor, deleterious was prob in A past a door when we ran through.

Killing all normal fomors works without fail tho.

5 Blue and 2 Red today. No Starstone again

We managed to kill the zone H boss tonight. NQ case for the effort.

Got Pitzer F coffer no starstone with 5/5 empy set legs was +1 only 300 muffins XD and death..well at least this is easy way for soloer get startones...oh and didn't summon trusts this time.. previous try was with trusts no coffer ..

Went into #E tonight, got 4/4 on objectives, but when we tried to use the boss portal to fight Dhartok, we got the message "It appears to currently be unusable".

On Dhartok's wiki page it claims that you need Plate #E to access the boss, but nowhere on the bgwiki sortie page does it mention anything about Plate #E. Additionally, there's no wiki page for Plate #E.

Am I missing something?

All the lower level shards are obtained from killing their associated upper floor boss. A gives you E, B-F, C-G, D-H.

plate? you mean Shard #E? Sortie#Major NMs.

I don't know what I mean. As I mentioned, it says on Dhartok's BGWiki Page the following:


We couldn't enter the boss area in #E earlier, and when I went to Dhartok's page it says that I need an item that I can't find a reference to anywhere else.

Apparently we need to go kill #A boss again since we haven't since the last update. That information didn't seem to be very clear on the Sortie page, and definitely not on Dhartok's page.

The wiki is not completely accurate and in some cases flat out wrong or misleading, because anyone can edit it without any verification. The content is still new, so some information may take some time to get there or get fleshed out. Sometimes it get fixed, corrected, removed, etc. Takes time.

For instance, it says all 4 upper floor boss NMs drop rate for Old Case +1 is "VC" (Very common, ~24%), but that categorization seems way off the actual drop rate. It's like closer to 5-10% in my experience.

You need Sheet A (touch Bitzer A while not wearing any equipment) to enter Sector E via Bitzer A, and Shard E (from Ghatjot) to use Gadget E to fight Dhartok.

'plate E' feels like a typo on the wiki.

Fixed the wiki to say Shard #E

Was able to resist all binds on G boss using bar bliz + Soul voice ice carol 1 + 2 + addle 2 with sab. Not sure how much is really needed.

I would warn people -- soloers really -- from targeting the "easy" H bitzer chest early. You can absolutely get hosed on it.

It can be in the 12 fomor room with them all over it. Once you go in, the only way out is the bitzer. If you fail to get out without aggro, kinda could be the end of your run. Even in a pt, I'd advise saving yourself like 5-8 minutes at the end and going for it then if you have time.

Mobs have pt aggro there. We had an easy enough bitzer location but someone aggroed right at they exited. The NIN immediately U-turned and bolted for the rest of the pt at the start of the zone I think. Was too fast for the guy to zone back in. The NIN seemed to only link with other NINs. But yeah, things can go sideways really fast. I dont think they can be slept (at all? not easily if possible) break and bind idk. I'm a COR, nothing I can do lol. tbh the only way out is to hope they come for someone with bolters and shadows. Everyone else gets out, the kiter tries to run around and gain enough separation to gtfo.

From this I get that you can't do that objective while invi/sneaked, right?

I know the /hurray one for B doesn't work if you're invisible, for instance.