May 2023 Version Update (Part 2)

You dint pay my sub! I'll solo if I want!

Solo'd Part 2 on RDM. Was sort of comparable to Shinryu VD, just harder because of periodic full buff/debuff wipes.

It's highly susceptible to Silence, and you want to keep that up 100% of the time because it spams Blue/Black Magic otherwise.

Damn...

SE finally did it...

Finally made me think about quitting...

Oh well - 3 mobs way from finish oddy - I think I'm done and will unsub because this is straight up wack

While I agree with you and am in the same boat, I honestly don't know what you guys expected. FFXI has always been a game of absurd grinds and timegates and that has been particularly prevalent over the past few years.

You need to have beaten all of the previous Peculiar Foes before he'll give them to you, I just went back and finished the ones I missed and he gave me the Voracioue psyche after talking to him again

Glad I've only done 2 Sortie runs ever and have all this to look forward to. Just casually going to wait until they double/triple the potential muffins for this content. SE has always made the grind considerably harder for those who want everything right now. Do what I did, take a year out, enjoy life, play other games, start a family, climb Mount Everest, and when you return Sortie will (probably) be a much more pleasant grind.

Man, it's almost like it's the job of multibillion dollar game developers to take these things into consideration and develop a game with these things in mind.

Wait you forgot one people crying because other people crying about the crying of the crying

It is nice that you can NPC the Psyche's for just under 5k

Is this just a big whoosh or am I crazy? The point was that these things conflict with each other and can't be reconciled with each other.

If it takes 6 months to get a prime, everyone *** (see here).
If it takes 1 month to get a prime, everyone *** that the Daurdabla, Gjalla, and Nirvana they just finished are worthless.
If the prime is better than all their REMA, people *** that they spent all this effort on it
If the prime is worse than their REMA, people *** that they're not better.

IDK, you guys are geniuses, come up with 5-9 unique weapons for each of the 22 jobs which are all side-grades and the best item possible for specific situations, but not dominant over all the others. Oh and make sure that they all take an appropriately long period of time, gil, r/e items, co-operation with other players, but not reliance on other players. Make sure it requires less than 6 people, but also scales well up to 18 players, without making it OP to use either strategy. Oh also make sure that all 22 jobs are still balanced and the content is scaled appropriate, no matter if people have or don't have any number of these weapons.

Everyone here acting like game balance with 5 categories of ultimate weapons is EZ PZ. I'll wait for your plans. Personally, I think SE is doing fine. The game isn't perfect but considering the complicated environment we play in, it ain't easy to keep it all balanced.

Budget isn't actually relevant to implementing new content in a satisfying way. You don't need a billion dollars to come to the realization that forcing players to grind every day for 6 months isn't considered fun by most.

Part 2 solo by lolDNC. I'm not the best player in the world, but I did pull it out. I end up biffing it, but I'm able to fully recover after a reraise by playing conservatively with Fan Dance up in the latter half of the fight. He does Chainspell (this can be rough to deal with) multiple times and a Doom-like countdown thing at the end. Darkness skillchains shred the rings. Also, use the prime weapon full time. It definitely has some sort of buff to damage.

Good thing I don't have to sit through that queue anymore.



Edit: Shredding of the rings fix.

They could have made it a 6 month grind with a lot of stones and not much galli. Would have made a lot more sense.

While it's true that there will always be some complaining about anything, that doesn't mean that complaints are always invalid.

Say what you will about people's propensity to complain, but it's straight-up bad design to have Empyrean upgrades & Prime Weapons use the same main currency dump.

If someone still needs to +3 Empyrean armor -- or god forbid, they take up a new job that requires some/all, which Odyssey heavily encourages -- they can effectively no longer do that while also progressing a Prime Weapon. Let's say someone wants to play a job that needs 5/5 empy +3; they're now set back ~40% of the gallimaufry investment that Prime Stage 3 requires.

Past REMA grinds in FFXI were not quite comparable to this. People expected a months-long grind for Stage 5, but this grind has other critical flaws.

It's also frustrating that Stage 3 specifically is so heavily gated because it means people have to essentially fly blind when choosing a weapon to upgrade. It'll take a long time and a lot of wasted gallimaufry to test each weapon's WS to determine if they're even decent, since the WS will be the determining factor in these otherwise milquetoast weapons' viabilities.

Ya noone ever gonna fully agree if we did then se would just not even update and people would be happy.

That's nice that you feel that way, but most people would agree that having to do the same slog through the same content every single day for 6+ months is the dictionary definition of a huge grind. While it's great that doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over every day for six months is apparently super engaging to you, surely you can understand why most people would consider that to be excessively boring.


You'll find few people who think it should be able to be made over night. What people are rightfully saying is that barring acquisitions behind exorbitant grinds and timegates is boring, frustrating, and genuinely poor game design.

Damn, you are so out of touch it's funny.

This is like the polar opposite of entitlement. "I don't like what I'm paying for, so I'm going to stop paying for it" is basic commerce.

"Certain Sortie notorious monsters now behave differently depending on the stage of the Prime Weapon you are carrying."

For all we know it may now proc them and double the Galli droped and 100k muffin runs may soon be the norm, atleast give it a chance before complaining lol, we havnt even got to this part of the update yet. But it do seems they want us to start using the Prime weapons for Sorti now so there's a good chance there will be a Galli increase in runs.