Final Fantasy VII: Rebirth

Grown adults shouldn't be pursuing high-schoolers. Lust is a derivative of instinct not a conscious decision. If you personally don't feel lust for high-schoolers, good for you. Most of humanity's history would have considered many of them to be of reproductive age. Biology considers many of them to be of reproductive age. You've let social conditioning overwrite your instincts, and are now implying it's a thought crime for anyone else not to have done the same. Never mind that it's not even a real high schooler, it's a 3d model of someone who doesn't exist that resembles a high schooler in some aspects.

You know underage porn is extremely illegal in a lot of countries right? Fictional or not. Cartoon or not.

It's literally why an admin is having to step into this convo right now.

How is this relevant to the topic? Nobody's posted underage porn. FF7R doesn't have underage porn(before or after censorship). Hopefully nobody here is viewing underage porn.

Are you saying that something being illegal means it is also immoral?

This conversation isn't about being attracted to children but since it was brought up: a spade is a spade and "virtue signaler" isn't a shield from this: if you're attracted to the 4000 year old dragon loli you are attracted to the physical proportions and body type of a child. Full stop. Don't even try to defend yourself.

Make sure you have your save file from the first game and Intergrade installed, you get two summons for having each one. You don't need the actual game installed, just download your save file from the cloud.

Of course it's relevant. People in here are crying about a fictional 15 year old having their cleavage covered up, I shudder to think what deep dark parts of the internet they go to if they care that much about a fictional 15 year old getting covered up slightly.

I hope the image loads, I'm too lazy to copy it over to imgur or something, but did you really equate that to porn??

Do you honestly think people are jerking it to 1/3 of underage tifa's titty and invested in the argument based on their own sexual gratification? Be serious, someone is going to turn the 3d models into porn in a matter of days or weeks from release anyway. This doesn't effect anyone's ability to jerk off to tifa of any age.

Thus, being opposed to it is almost certain to be on ideological grounds. People don't want their games being censored based on western values, because that leads down a rabbit hole to a whole lot of more meaningful degradations in those games.

No I didn't equate it to porn, are you really that dense?

Also the "western values" thing is basically a lot of nonsense.

Does that mean you want the "eastern values" thing like the fact that the age of consent was 13 in Japan up until recently?

You should also probably touch some grass.



I think it's less about what they "censored" in the game and more Thorny and Eiryl talking about wanting to *** teenagers.

People in here are literally saying that because it's fictional and a "cartoon" it's ok to lust over a 15 year old.

I could blow some minds and point out what the age of consent in Japan is, where this game was made.

If you're that up in arms about the top of fictional boobs, you're in too deep. So much worse (or better?) to worry about.

The age of consent in Japan is 16.

This guy trying to pull the reverse uno card as if people whining about them giving her an undershirt to cover up her chest wasn't the provenance of the conversation. *** are wild

Other than the fact you did because you were literally the first person who mention "porn" in this topic.

You brought it up in the first place, as a tactic to shut down the conversation lol

Whole lot of anger here for stating that females are objectively attractive as teenagers. I'm in a almost decade long committed relationship with someone in her late 20s. I don't want to have sex with children or teenagers or even women in their early 20s, because I am not able to form an emotional bond with someone of that maturity. I do not want the age of consent reduced, and I'd actually be totally ok with laws prohibiting sex before marriage(though they'd be unenforcable).

I, and most men throughout history, consider the body type of a developed teenager to be physically attractive. That doesn't mean every teenager, people mature at different rates. I'm not going to feel ashamed of that, because it's a perfectly normal expression of human evolution. I doubt I'm the only one either. Pull up a video of Brittany Spears at 17 and tell me that she's completely unattractive because of an arbitrary line in the sand that many people have drawn at 18.

Are you actually stupid or is it just a front? The first person to bring up anyone under the age of 15 eas eiryl you God damn mongoloid

My point has always been the change, not what changed.



Achully, it was not. (I did say looks like...)((Drawn as though they were 12))

Check again, and take 3 off that number.

It was 13 until literally 8 months ago they changed it to 16 so says google

Check again and learn how to use google.

So it was 13 when the game came out, till western politicians pressured Japan to increase it.

inb4 the lock

It was Nynja that first mentioned about her being 'censored'

??? What kind of deflection is this? Saying they are a child and look like a child are not physically removed from each other in the context of what is being discussed.


Nynja did not make the post about 9000 year old 12 year olds and didn't even know we were talking about 15 year old tifa until later on

So you are ok with the age of consent being 13? You think 16 is too high?

Women's groups within Japan pressured the change and rightly so.

Just that I didn't start a god damn thing. Just wanted that clear.

And that if square decides that she's now 17 at nibbleheim, suddenly everything is A-ok, apparently. (because she doesn't exist, it's a made up number)

Idk if you're confused or what but the post that RA quoted was specifically addressing you bringing up loli ***, not the ethics of being attracted to teenagers.

Wrong again.
I was second.

And at Prothescar said, I was unaware that cutscene was from a flashback when they were young teenagers. I never played the original FF7.