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By Asura.Saevel 2023-06-21 07:03:19  
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Old school guillotine style.

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Yo, this mother *** said WHAT about Galkas?

At least your not Dragoons...
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-06-21 08:57:03  
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Just play DRK only in Odyssey Gaol and problem solved.

Best weapon for segment farms by a mile. The SU5 path B. The tp gain is amazing, sometimes you get too 2k tp in 3 attack rounds and everything just melts to 60-80k Cross Reapers. If that doesn't kill it the instant 1k follow up entropy will.

I used to use calad but it was slow and overkill. Switched to liberator but getting aftermath up was a pain. SU5 is full time insane multiattack. You just burn through mobs, love it! Best trash mob weapon for farming. Great for dynamis too.

Sub /drg obviously, don't be a gimp...
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By SimonSes 2023-06-21 09:28:01  
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
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Just play DRK only in Odyssey Gaol and problem solved.

Best weapon for segment farms by a mile. The SU5 path B. The tp gain is amazing, sometimes you get too 2k tp in 3 attack rounds and everything just melts to 60-80k Cross Reapers. If that doesn't kill it the instant 1k follow up entropy will.

I used to use calad but it was slow and overkill. Switched to liberator but getting aftermath up was a pain. SU5 is full time insane multiattack. You just burn through mobs, love it! Best trash mob weapon for farming. Great for dynamics too.

Sub /drg obviously, don't be a gimp...

I meant Gaol, where you don't have access to subjob, so there is no issue which is better XD
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-06-21 09:48:07  
Everyone knows that sub DNC is the best option, so you can cap delay reduction without using Hasso and kneecapping your stun recast times. Are you guys even trying?
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By Asura.Saevel 2023-06-21 10:39:21  
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Everyone knows that sub DNC is the best option, so you can cap delay reduction without using Hasso and kneecapping your stun recast times. Are you guys even trying?

Ohh great idea, best benefit is you can still use Naegling!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-06-21 10:40:25  
SimonSes said: »
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SimonSes said: »
Just play DRK only in Odyssey Gaol and problem solved.

Best weapon for segment farms by a mile. The SU5 path B. The tp gain is amazing, sometimes you get too 2k tp in 3 attack rounds and everything just melts to 60-80k Cross Reapers. If that doesn't kill it the instant 1k follow up entropy will.

I used to use calad but it was slow and overkill. Switched to liberator but getting aftermath up was a pain. SU5 is full time insane multiattack. You just burn through mobs, love it! Best trash mob weapon for farming. Great for dynamics too.

Sub /drg obviously, don't be a gimp...

I meant Gaol, where you don't have access to subjob, so there is no issue which is better XD


Yeah, I know. I just saw your comment as a segway for more "controversial" recommendations.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-06-21 10:44:24  
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Everyone knows that sub DNC is the best option, so you can cap delay reduction without using Hasso and kneecapping your stun recast times. Are you guys even trying?

Hasso doesn't cap delay reduction... Do you even DRK bro?
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By Dodik 2023-06-21 10:46:56  
Hasso caps delay reduction when you use the superior sam/drk combination, bro.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-06-21 10:48:39  
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
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Everyone knows that sub DNC is the best option, so you can cap delay reduction without using Hasso and kneecapping your stun recast times. Are you guys even trying?

Hasso doesn't cap delay reduction... Do you even DRK bro?

I mean neither does Haste Samba. It's almost like my post was a joke. Like this thread.

DRK/WAR best sub though, because 12% DA which can proc on your weapon skills, the OAT from Su5 can't improve your WSD at all. Plus it has 513 delay, SLOW!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-06-21 10:50:20  
A joke thread..... Filled with harsh truths!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-06-21 10:52:44  
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Hasso caps delay reduction when you use the superior sam/drk combination, bro.

Isn't SAM/DRG > SAM/WAR?

The only thing that saddens me is I can't DRG/DRG
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By Asura.Pergatory 2023-06-21 11:25:07  
DRK/THF y'all done forgot about SATA baby. Party like it's 2003!

There was none of this haste capping, delay capping nonsense back then. You got your Haste 1 and said "thank you, sir." Then proceeded to miss 3 attack rounds in a row while munching on Mithkabobs.
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By Afania 2023-06-21 11:27:27  
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
This is meant to be a safe place for your to console each other and rationalize why it's okay to do inferior dps.

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He has found a new path of the Dark Knight. Which echoed in his mind:

DRK/COR ftw.

DRK/COR ftw.

DRK/COR ftw.
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By Ragnarok.Primex 2023-06-21 11:35:20  
Just imagining some poor soul starting FFXI for the first time, or a returning player from 2006, wanting to start DRK, asking people in game for guidance, and being directed to this site, encountering this thread.. and not realizing..
poor ***.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2023-06-21 12:14:27  
"Cut My Life In To Pieces, This Is My (Last Resort)!"

This thread makes my emo soul cry salty tears. Can't we all miss weaponskills at crucial moments and get along, no matter what the sub job? I miss the days when we all pulled together like that weird family at the end of the road nobody wants anything to do with.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-06-21 12:17:12  
LOL at suggesting this forum has actual usable guidance.

95% is absolute rubbish... "DRK/SAM is still a good combination!"

*Barf*
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-06-21 12:21:23  
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Can't we all miss weaponskills at crucial moments and get along, no matter what the sub job?

No... /slashes wrists

I consider "Hurt - Johnny Cash" the unofficial DRK theme song.
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By Bismarck.Nickeny 2023-06-21 12:39:48  
These new drama threads don't hold a candle to the Vize making a rema thread asking for a pat on the back...

Good *** times...

Now we have people who can't use a calculator
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By Ragnarok.Primex 2023-06-21 12:40:12  
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
LOL at suggesting this forum has actual usable guidance.

95% is absolute rubbish... "DRK/SAM is still a good combination!"

*Barf*
I'm not part of the debate, just an observer. But you're using parses to ascertain than /DRG > /SAM?
again, I'm neutral. I have no opinion. I've been gone too long. just trying to understand why /sam is garbage.
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By Bahamut.Celebrindal 2023-06-21 12:52:38  
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These new drama threads don't hold a candle to the Vize making a rema thread asking for a pat on the back...

Good *** times...

Now we have people who can't use a calculator
Good lord Vize.....hadn't thought about that idiot avatar of his staring back at me paired with just gems of...something.
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2023-06-21 13:23:02  
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
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I consider "Hurt - Johnny Cash" the unofficial DRK theme song.

Original NIN version destroys that so hard
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By Bahamut.Negan 2023-06-21 13:24:56  
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Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
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I consider "Hurt - Johnny Cash" the unofficial DRK theme song.

Original NIN version destroys that so hard
Good thing he said "unofficial" because errybody knows what the official theme song is!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-06-21 13:27:16  
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I consider "Hurt - Johnny Cash" the unofficial DRK theme song.

Original NIN version destroys that so hard

Ridiculous... Johnny was the real deal. NIN is a corporate product.
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By Bahamut.Celebrindal 2023-06-21 13:29:28  
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Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
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I consider "Hurt - Johnny Cash" the unofficial DRK theme song.

Original NIN version destroys that so hard


you wanna really blow your mind, look up the Eric Whitacre version.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2023-06-21 13:30:48  
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
Fenrir.Richybear said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
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I consider "Hurt - Johnny Cash" the unofficial DRK theme song.

Original NIN version destroys that so hard

Ridiculous... Johnny was the real deal. NIN is a corporate product.
So ole Johnny covered a corporate product
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By Quetzalcoatl.Raesvelg 2023-06-21 13:33:37  
Bahamut.Celebrindal said: »
Fenrir.Richybear said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
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I consider "Hurt - Johnny Cash" the unofficial DRK theme song.

Original NIN version destroys that so hard


you wanna really blow your mind, look up the Eric Whitacre version.

Psh.

Everyone knows that the Kermit version is the definitive one.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-06-21 13:36:31  
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I'm not part of the debate, just an observer. But you're using parses to ascertain than /DRG > /SAM?
again, I'm neutral. I have no opinion. I've been gone too long. just trying to understand why /sam is garbage.

This is a safe place friend... No need for disclaimers.

Parsers mainly. Spreadsheet for gearing (10/10 the python dmg calculator if you haven't used it yet).

It's just stupidly obvious, I really don't understand why this is even controversial. Use both subs, see it with your own two eyes. Gear your jumps sets, time your last resort for engagement, it mops the floor with /sam.

Premaster levels, it might of been worth it still. When we're all hitting cap damage eventually then the stp from /sam might become relevant again. Until then /drg is king.

ALL hail the king of DRK subs!!!!!! These nonbelievers don't deserve you!
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By Ragnarok.Primex 2023-06-21 13:56:36  
There was a time when WAR/SAM (post hasso update) and NIN/DRK (HNM days) were ridiculed too. I'll test it out. Just hope gearing for /drg doesn't mean I need another mule to hold my junk. I'm running out of names.
Got a link to that dmg calculator por favor?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello 2023-06-21 14:02:29  
Ragnarok.Primex said: »
There was a time when WAR/SAM (post hasso update) and NIN/DRK (HNM days) were ridiculed too. I'll test it out. Just hope gearing for /drg doesn't mean I need another mule to hold my junk. I'm running out of names.
Got a link to that dmg calculator por favor?

I'm not totally insane (debatable). WAR/SAM for two-handed is better imo because WAR lacks any native job ability haste unlike DRK. For naegling WAR, /drg only.
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By Bahamut.Negan 2023-06-21 14:06:05  
Quetzalcoatl.Tomasello said: »
ALL hail the king of DRK subs!!!!!!


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