December 2023 Version Update

The worst thing about this event is that I'm going to have to relent and be social with new people to get Gallantry for the first time since 2013 when everyone I knew left the game.

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...okay that is funny. They pretty much had to. The hilarious thing is it still might fail, but whatever. At least they realized they way over estimated how many people would grind for this.

Now that's unexpected!
I mean it, not being sarcastic.
Didn't expect them to lower the target so fast.

Funny how they do this after a ton of people said F this the 1st few days, so lost progress we can never get back. There legit should be catch up mechanics.. I.E. repeatable RoE's

We're definitely not hitting the stretch goals either.

@Eiryl, what does our progress look like on the graph now? haha

I'm still on strike. There's still no reason to run ambuscade daily. That, and they really deserve to be trolled by a failure after that first stunt.

/picket

It's easy to win when you move the goal posts.

Could still easily fail if the stans stop stanning.

I might be half tempted if the RoEs were in any way grindable or if the rewards held any value what so ever. Since neither are the case, I continue to refuse to engage.

I'm nearly 40, The amount of *** time I have is significantly less than when I was young. I gotta pick what my *** is.

Lol. Still hard pass.

Lowering the requirement does nothing to motivate people to do it.

Rewards are still junk and the process is still irritating.

Effort:Reward is what needs fixing

Idk why se thought people in XI would ever wanna do community events like this is 14. Pretty sure no matter the prize it wouldn't get people to do it as everything like people have said is already more time efficient to do that anything related to the event itself. Even if it wasn't ambuscade people still wouldn't wanna do it.

I know it'd a lot to ask, but I think we can all agree it would be hilarious if you could keep showing the original goals as well as the new "oh no, what if somebody notices" goals on the chart. Maybe just the one line for the original goal, and not the stretch goal?

Adjusting the goal is a greater save face than allowing this whole thing to flop. Didn't expect it but they care about their image.

I kind of hope the players protest this change as well and don't bother meeting the lowered goal either, just to prove the point that those rewards suck and SE ain't about to get people to grind for trash rewards. But it looked like it will be met.

You couldnt be any more wrong if you tried.

Make the reward worth it, and people will do it. These current rewards are *** trash.

Two of the goals in the Round category are:
Acquire 36000 HM
Acquire 24000 GA

Which means there is an actual expectation that on top of grinding multiple V2N/D/VD a day for two weeks, you are also doing a bunch of Vol1's to acquire that amount of HM and GA. 3 runs of Vol2VD a day with a duo partner for 12 days will net you:
900 HM a day, 10,800 HM
240 GA a day, 2,880 GA (Accounted for the one time daily double from the current adventurer campaign)

Not even close to the required HM/GA they're expecting.

I cna see it fails in the last 2 days because of Christmas.

Willing to believe if it's that close, they'll just fudge the numbers towards the end as one last Christmas present.

When you say "a bunch of Vol1's" did you mean 1 or 2? Because normally when people say a bunch, they aren't referring to 2.

Read the rest of my edited post, it will make sense.

In this scenario if you did the ambu you listed above, you'll have at least 3 seals. If you use 2 seals on V1VD, you'll be ~3600 away. So I guess you're right, it's technically 3 VD ambus to meet the requirements.

These are the easiest goals in the whole event to achieve, you can do that in less than an hour, maybe 30 minutes.

I get that people hate dailies and being "forced" to do things, but I don't agree with the idea of calling this a huge grind, a ton of ambu, or even a bunch. It's 3 ambu a day and then 2-3 VD at any point over the course of the two weeks.

Oh man. So, I know we're mostly using this as a "lol, Vana'bout is awful" thread, but can we take a moment to appreciate one of the other big changes on this update?

Peach Power feels a lot harder now. The flans definitely have more HP. Going with a COR COR SCH SMN WHM group, it's gone from "easy 50k exemp" to "hope everyone has reraise." Thanks, SE, I was just thinking there was something about that battlefield that wasn't quite as soul-crushing as it could possibly be.

The majority of people doing this cant clear V1VD.


Someone who reliably clear V1VD isnt gonna spend 30 minutes a day for the next two weeks grinding for a daily Abdjaljs Seal effect. Its just not efficient.

Presuming there are no stored seals, and seals are used as they are obtained, doing 3 Vol1VD once a week (maybe 45 min total after all the travel and setup) will net the following:
Week 1 (Dec 12):
3600HM + 3000GA (Adv Campaign)
10800HM + 4500GA (Monthly RoE)
10800HM + 4500GA (weekly RoE)

Week 2 (Dec 17):
10800HM + 9000GA (TotalHM Seal + Adv Campaign)
10800HM + 4500GA (Weekly RoE)
3600HM + 1500GA

Week 3 (Dec 24):
3600HM + 3000GA (Adv Campaign)
10800HM + 4500GA (weekly RoE)
3600HM + 1500GA

Week 4 (Dec 31 to Jan 2, when campaign ends):
3600HM + 3000GA (Adv Campaign)
10800HM + 4500GA (weekly RoE)
3600HM + 1500GA

86400 HM and 45000 GA. Unless you're insistent on bleeding Gorpa dry of every possible money item including the horribly inefficient plutons, this will get you:
2200 Alex (26250 HM / 6750 GA)
4 Riftcinder (4500 HM / 1500 GA)
4 Riftdross (4500HM / 1500 GA)
125 HMP (20000 HM / 5000 GA)
Still have 31,150 HM and 30,250 GA to go and we cleared out all the best gil/HM items. This is already a solid haul for 45 minutes of effort four times a week. The remainder can go towards weapon(s) or cape(s) if they are still needed, or can dig deeper down to the less efficient gil/hm items (Dyna Currency, Beitetsu).

To note: I didnt include Week 5 which would be another 18000 HM and 7500 GA (Adv campaign ends), and this is also not the most efficient use of seals, as they would be used on the first fight of the day for the Gallantry bonus while the adv campaign is live. This second bit may be a non-factor as there are less money items available via GA compared to HM, so you'll just have a greater surplus of GA.

Oh my looorrrrd.
I'm dead. I can't believe they silently moved the goalpost.

I'm gonna LUL even *** harder. One of the JP says "on the square site they claimed the reason for changing the goal was congestion"

But I can't find this official statement anywhere.

"Guys, soooooooo many people are totally doing our event... but like it's congesting the area so while we could totes get 16 MILLION... we're gonna make it 4 million, cause of the congestion"

Stop stanning and let this new goal fail too.

Cutting it down to 25% is even more nuclear than I expected, very very funny.

12pm 925k / 2.8m / 4.0m - Where it needs to be

You just know the next update notes are gonna have some blurb about how enormously popular this event was and how all the feedback they received was amazing. Seems like they do that every time they release stuff regardless of how bad it is.


People who can reliably clear V1VD aren't the target audience. It's the same reason Ambuscade was chosen for this event and why they didn't pick something like Odyssey or Sortie instead.

I pointed this out a while ago but I don't think SE is really going to do much to emphasize endgame players going forward. It's an expensive, endless endeavor keeping the endgame players engaged with new and interesting content and I think that's a minority of the player base at this point. There are a lot of new or returning players that come and go, they probably figure they can keep them busier with this type of content for a while and keep their subs going since it's easier to add content that is engaging for them compared to people who have "finished" everything else and are steamrolling most of the games content. It's easier and cheaper for them with a small staff to just assume a certain amount of loss in the endgame playerbase, people who are likely to leave anyway because there is no new worthwhile content on the horizon, and cater to the larger percentage of people coming in that are new or returning players.

This is still a V2 I can solo pretty easily on Normal so I'm gonna keep using this as an excuse to finally build that Naegling and aim for some bonus Deeds while I'm doing it.

"Congestion in the affected areas and subsequent player frustration with trying to enter the areas led us to reevaluate the end goal and adjust it accordingly so that completion was more feasible in the time remaining"

^ just watch, they are going to say something like this.