New Games Suck... Or Is It Just Me?

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By Afania 2024-12-18 05:05:25  
Will a non-Chinese nationalist turn into a nationalist after they play Wukong?

Will people suddenly support all the controversial trans policy in sports only because NPC do push ups for misgendering other NPC in DA?

I think people form their opinions on those political issues base on their life experience and preferred social privilege. If someone actually form their opinions from video games, which is a bad media to promote the execution of policy anyways, they probably are the reactive kind when it comes to picking political factions to begin with.
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By Dodik 2024-12-18 06:52:01  
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The ones that would be damaged the most by another occupy wall street flaring up.

Hate to break it to you, but these companies don't gaf about a bunch of hippies with placards camping out at the park in front of their HQ.

They are, at worst, an annoyance. Like a buzzing fly.

It affects them about as much as the "stop oil" protesters help to protect the environment. Which is zero.

Thinking some CEO is so incensed about some lame protest to induce a global scheme to push a progressive agenda onto the public because it, somehow, hurts their bottom line is some out there thinking, putting it mildly.

With respect, broaden your news sources.
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2024-12-18 08:53:34  
Afania said: »
I think people form their opinions on those political issues base on their life experience and preferred social privilege.

And young adults are not dumb enough to overdose on nutmeg or huff whip cream refills or do internet challenges that result in their deaths, all because their favorite media personality did it too. that could never happen.
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By Afania 2024-12-18 10:06:10  
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
And young adults are not dumb enough to overdose on nutmeg or huff whip cream refills or do internet challenges that result in their deaths, all because their favorite media personality did it too. that could never happen.


Umm, I am not sure if "overdose on nutmeg or huff whip cream refills or do internet challenges that result in their deaths" and voting for a policy are the same thing?

I've been voting and participating in political activities hardcore since 18. Over the years as I got older I watched different generations of young people who walked the same path I did when I was younger. Some of them even ended up having a successful political career after that.

From my personal observation and experience interacting with them, I would say most young people into politics aren't nearly as dumb as older people claimed when it comes to political decision making. Many of them spent their time to read from multiple sources and do in-depth research on the subjects that they cared about, then able
to formulate a strong argument for their political decisions.

Sure, not all of their political arguments and conclusions are perfect. Since they lack life experience so they may miss different angle or perspective. But that doesn't mean their opinions can be easily changed by video games.

And there are definitely reactive people on the internet who just follow the trend without thinking, or troll/put fuels in the fire.

But internet reactive posters certainly don't represent most of young voters into politics from my rl experience. Though it is easy to think this way if all you ever do is read internet cultural war with shallow ***posts that have no content.

Just fyi, what I said above don't apply to "I don't care about politics" groups. Of course those people won't be able to form a strong opinion on politics to withstand whatever entertainment media told them. But most young people who belongs to this group probably don't vote anyways.

From this perspective, I think using video games to change the outcome of voting policy is probably very very hard. Other factors in life still play a much bigger role on voting preferences imo.
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By Fenrir.Niflheim 2024-12-18 10:24:04  
I read your earlier statement as, the media people consume can not influence their beliefs from this line in it: "on those political issues base on their life experience and preferred social privilege."

I was pointing out that young adults are stupid and easily swayed to do stupid things by the media they consume, So i do not believe people adjust their views "on those political issues base on their life experience and preferred social privilege." I believe they base them on how people they relinquish the authority to think critically about stuff view it.

Not that I think they should be doing that, but what I want reality to be and what it actually is never seem to line up :/
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By Afania 2024-12-18 10:56:34  
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
I was pointing out that young adults are stupid and easily swayed to do stupid things by the media they consume,


Being swayed on irrelevant topics like food or fashion or hobby isn't the same as voting preference though. They have very different "weight" in life.

Think about it, how come many young voter's preferred policy irl are still in line with their real social privilege, regardless of what the media from the opposite side said?

Most young people have less wealth than people in their 35-60, due to being new in the society and unable to accumulate massive wealth.....yet.

What are most young people's preference on housing policy? Do they prefer cheaper housing so they can buy a home or do they prefer keeping housing values so their wealth is locked?

From what I've seen most young people prefer cheaper housing policy so they can afford a home because they don't have one yet, while landlords/upper middle class who benefits from housing price prefer keeping housing price high for their wealth.

On taxing issue, do most young people irl prefer corporate tax increase or decrease?

From what I've seen, most young people prefer corporate tax increase because most of them are employee, so they don't lose money from corporate tax. And many of them could benefit from welfare or student loan forgiveness. Therefore they preferred a policy that benefit them. A lot of young people feel letting corporate pay tax is more fair to them.

In other words, when voting, young people's policy preference is generally in line with their social privilege most of the time. (There are exception for different individuals of course, I am talking about demographics as a whole)

Even if they are "sway by the media for stupid things" often, do you think when they deal with money in their pocket they'll pick a suboptimal choice because media or video game told them differently?

I think not. From what I've seen, most people still vote based on privileges. Maybe they'll follow the media for other things like fashion or food or hobby, but money and politic is a whole different matter.

Edit: evidence of young people voting preference:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/age-generational-cohorts-and-party-identification/

Majority of younger voter still prefer the policy that benefits them, then as they got older they move to the opposite side.

Large amount of media from the opposite side didn't change this trend.
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By RadialArcana 2024-12-18 11:11:44  
It's funny how Asia beating the western game developers *** into paste is making them all turbo racist, game journalists and devs raging against China harder than a neocon with a rocket in his pocket lately. Making stuff up out of nothing, spreading rumors and just being mad. Even Vicious doing it in this thread, do better bro you're being problematic asf right now.

Marvel Rivals and Wukong is riling them up something fierce, since the vast majority of gamers hate their guts though it's just making people buy the games more. They even made up a story saying the lead dev of wukong was crying with no evidence at all, and how he was so mad (when all he did was make a joke for his fans in Chinese, saying he wrote a big speech).

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If you were influenced by Blackrock too, then you can't blame them for wanting to influence you! Because there are too many mental weaklings that would fall for it! It would be silly to give up on the good chance.

Everyone falls for it, we are animals and our psychology is easy to manipulate. Even if you know they are doing it, it will sometimes still work on you. Just takes good bait.

Also if you normalize something in the media enough, then you very much can make something that used to be seen negatively to be accepted and normalized. You just have to shove it in peoples faces everywhere, give them no escape from it. Even if the older people resist it more, the younger generations who grow up with it will and accept it as a normal party of society. You can make almost anything acceptable if you push it long and hard enough.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2024-12-18 11:12:10  
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It all began with Occupy Wallstreet, or so the legend says.
Actually it all started in 1972.

Any explanitions of just what it was that started in 1972 other than class warfare is far too political for this board and P&R has been rightfully defanged.

Occupy wall street was a symptom, not a cause.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2024-12-18 11:14:28  
P. S.

Before commenting on Wukong we should all read Journey to the West. Myself included.
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By Viciouss 2024-12-18 11:17:00  
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It's funny how Asia beating the western game developers *** into paste is making them all turbo racist, game journalists and devs raging against China harder than a neocon with a rocket in his pocket lately. Making stuff up out of nothing, spreading rumors and just being mad. Even Vicious doing it in this thread, do better bro you're being problematic asf right now.

lmao what? This entire post is made up. The only idiot here that needs to "do better" is you. Stop sharing your youtube conspiracies. As others said, broaden your news sources. You have been flailing for years.
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By Afania 2024-12-18 12:00:24  
RadialArcana said: »
Everyone Radial falls for it,


I didn't argue about boobs like you did. You fall for it, not me.

RadialArcana said: »
Making stuff up out of nothing, spreading rumors and just being mad.


What rumor?

RadialArcana said: »
making them all turbo racist,

Who is racist?

RadialArcana said: »
we are animals and our psychology is easy to manipulate

I am sorry if you are easy to manipulate into arguing boobs, not me though.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-12-18 12:09:00  
Maybe not boobs but everything else it's very easy to get you to argue about.

Including arguing about not arguing.
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By Afania 2024-12-18 12:10:41  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Maybe not boobs but everything else it's very easy to get you to argue about.

Including arguing about not arguing.


But Blackrock didn't start other topics right? So that's irrelevant.

(Unless other ffxiah posters are secretly Blackrock that tricked me into arguing on ffxiah.com, conspiracy theory!!!!)
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By Afania 2024-12-18 12:29:42  
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but everything else it's very easy to get you to argue about.

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By Asura.Eiryl 2024-12-18 12:36:34  
Ra isn't wrong. The rich give us petty ***to argue about so we don't band together to *** eat them.

Always have. Always will. And it will always work.
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By Pantafernando 2024-12-18 12:51:30  
Afania said: »
Asura.Eiryl said: »
but everything else it's very easy to get you to argue about.


You failed as a meme shitposter.

This is probably the worst attempt of memeing something i saw in 2024
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By Afania 2024-12-18 13:00:15  
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This is probably the worst attempt of memeing something i saw in 2024


So said someone who pulled a "Dogstruction" pic, when they can't win the villain contest. That move is so 1980 ya know?
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By Pantafernando 2024-12-18 13:15:04  
Dont be salty
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By Afania 2024-12-18 13:33:02  
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Ra isn't wrong. The rich give us petty ***to argue about so we don't band together to *** eat them.

Always have. Always will. And it will always work.


Umm even if I quit FFXIAH.com today and stop arguing ever, I wouldn't band together with other people to fight the rich either.

Why fight the powerful ones when joining them for the benefit is the better choice?

I don't think the problem is arguing, it's the incentive.
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By Pantafernando 2024-12-18 14:31:27  
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I quit FFXIAH.com today

Dont do that.

I still have fun with your posts.

At least 0,001% of them.

Those who dont resort to sophistry.

Nor are lengthy enough to bleed my eyes.

Overall, i think i like you.

Sometimes
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By Afania 2024-12-18 14:32:40  
Pantafernando said: »
Afania said: »
I quit FFXIAH.com today

Dont do that.

I still have fun with your posts.

At least 0,001% of them.

Those who dont resort to sophistry.

Nor are lengthy enough to bleed my eyes.

Overall, i think i like you.

Sometimes


I said IF!

And you are already overreacting silly!
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By RadialArcana 2024-12-19 06:48:15  
Look at the new updated Directors of Square Enix:

https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/company/officer.html

Scroll down.. In what universe does it makes sense to hire that person (look at their bio for added lul), when everything she would ever suggest is cancer to the fanbase of their company.
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By Afania 2024-12-19 07:23:01  
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Look at the new updated Directors of Square Enix:

https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/company/officer.html

Scroll down.. In what universe does it makes sense to hire that person (look at their bio for added lul), when everything she would ever suggest is cancer to the fanbase of their company.


Who? I only saw 2 possible "she" on the list. What's wrong with their bio?
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By Shiva.Thorny 2024-12-19 07:52:08  
Let's be real. There's one person who doesn't appear to be east asian. They are clearly a biological male, despite having a female name. Their biography has no meaningful credentials, just nonsense academia (from California, no less).

It is not difficult to recognize who Radial would take offense to, though you can certainly debate about whether these are valid reasons to be offended.
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By Afania 2024-12-19 08:04:52  
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Let's be real. There's one person who doesn't appear to be east asian. They are clearly a biological male, despite having a female name.


Ohh I see. I didn't know that's a female name in English tbh, so I completely missed that person LOL.

Quickly google shows that name is gender neutral though? Idk.

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Their biography has no meaningful credentials, just nonsense academia (from California, no less).

People from academic background being board of director is quite common. board of director isn't a game development job, it's a business job that represents shareholders. So it's not entirely nonsense. There are other people with academic background in that list too.

I can see the California part could offend people with certain political preference, I swear the name California is now a political term on the internet lol. that's not credentials problem though.
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By Viciouss 2024-12-19 08:32:18  
Of all the people on that list, you guys single out the one from USC gaming? This is why you should never, ever take cues from RA. USC has had the #1 gaming program among universities for going on a decade. They have a gaming expo and E-sport tournament every year. SE should feel blessed to have anyone from that program on their board of directors.
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By RadialArcana 2024-12-19 08:53:08  
The reason there is a Saudi dude there, is because Saudi billionaires heavily invest in gaming companies (diversifying, as they move out of the oil money fountain age) so demand they have representation on the board.

Same applies for Blackrock and similar companies, which is why you have that specific brand of white person there (woke).

The main difference between those two is the Saudi dude was hired cause he is obviously a smart and experienced businessman (look at his bio) who will work to make the games more successful and profitable. That other white person is there cause they are a California assclown that will turbo charge woke cringe garbage into everything. If you look around you'll see lots of talks they have done, including some for the World Economic Forum. They are quite literally a meme of a woke twitter activist on steroids, it would be impossible to find anyone more awful and anti gamer if you tried.

The sheer amount of damage they will do on that board to every game they make or update, is insane.
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By Viciouss 2024-12-19 08:59:00  
RadialArcana said: »
The reason there is a Saudi dude there, is because Saudi billionaires heavily invest in gaming companies (diversifying, as they move out of the oil money fountain age) so demand they have representation on the board.

Same applies for Blackrock and similar companies, which is why you have that specific brand of white person there (woke).

The main difference between those two is the Saudi dude was hired cause he is obviously a smart and experienced businessman (look at his bio) who will work to make the games more successful and profitable. That other white person is there cause they are a California assclown that will turbo charge woke cringe garbage into everything. If you look around you'll see lots of talks they have done, including some for the World Economic Forum. They are quite literally a meme of a woke twitter activist on steroids, it would be impossible to find anyone more awful and anti gamer if you tried.

The sheer amount of damage they will do on that board to every game they make or update, is insane.

I see you are falling to new, pathetic lows. Who would have thought it possible?
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By Afania 2024-12-19 08:59:47  
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In what universe does it makes sense to hire that person (look at their bio for added lul),


Afaik board of directors aren't "hired", they are elected to represent shareholders. Their job isn't making games, but supervise the operation of a company.

It is generally believed that, if the directors have diverse background, is the easier to avoid one sided votes. Therefore even in Asia it is very common to see people from academic or different industry being elected as board of directors.

One California board of director out of many isn't going to change much, because it is only one person when they vote. There is one guy from Saudi Arabia that's board of director as well, SE still makes game with gays. One director's background doesn't matter much.

You should start worrying when more than 50% of directors are from California. That's when their opinion may start to matter.
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