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 Asura.Wyze
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By Asura.Wyze 2024-10-29 23:53:29  
I'm curious if I'm missing something but I've done a couple ambus where the bard gives us nitro buffs and every song shows 12min.
When I do nitro songs all show 11min except honor march will show 12min.

This is what I use for song duration+ then of course the + skill gear like minuet + and whatnot. I'm ML 40 if that matters.

carnwenhan 119 (still working on AG)
Gjallarhorn 99
Fili Hongreline +3
Inyanga Shalwar +2
Brioso Slippers +3
Mnbw. Whistle +1

Any help would be appreciated.
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2024-10-30 01:36:47  
If you don't mind missing out on support spells, there's always going /nin or /dnc and offhanding Kali for the extra 5% bump.
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By Bahamut.Suph 2024-10-30 02:07:21  
Did the bard gave you 5 songs in those couple ambus? Clarion Call increase songs duration by another 40 seconds.

I don't think you can get 6 mins songs before NiTro otherwise (to make it 12+ mins with Nitro) as that would mean you can get 5 mins + songs (10 mins with NiTro) without Carnwenhan rendering Carn a lot less desirable as its would no longer be needed for NiTro to NiTro casting cycle.
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By Asura.Wyze 2024-10-30 02:51:06  
Can't remember but maybe they did do 5 songs. Like I'm happy with my 11min + songs as it gives me a nice buffer to keep nitro going so I can also dd. Was mostly making sure I wasn't missing out on something. Thanks for the responses
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By Sylph.Funkworkz 2024-10-30 09:25:09  
Are you looking at the "timers" addon or the status icon timers? the timers addon needs updated and won't match.
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By Asura.Wyze 2024-10-30 18:01:26  
I'm going off ffxi timers under the songs. mine go to 11min but I've seen others say 12min during the nitro songs.
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By SimonSes 2024-10-30 19:31:50  
Bahamut.Suph said: »
Did the bard gave you 5 songs in those couple ambus? Clarion Call increase songs duration by another 40 seconds.

I don't think you can get 6 mins songs before NiTro otherwise (to make it 12+ mins with Nitro) as that would mean you can get 5 mins + songs (10 mins with NiTro) without Carnwenhan rendering Carn a lot less desirable as its would no longer be needed for NiTro to NiTro casting cycle.

It would still be desired for debuff duration. Lots of end game fights benefit a lot for nitro+SV debuff/s staying on as long as possible. Especially threnodies.

Also singing buffs every 12+ minutes would still be way better than every 10min :)
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By Galkapryme 2026-02-13 14:16:45  
New~ish BRD, here. Please *** my Song Duration set, and let me know where I need to make duration adjustments. My math is indicating +171% increase from gear (about 11mm25sec songs with NiTro up).

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By Galkapryme 2026-02-13 14:21:01  
SimonSes said: »
Clarion Call increase songs duration by another 40 seconds.

I did not see where CC increases song duration in the Wiki. Is this a hidden effect that is otherwise known by the community?
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By Asura.Leonlionheart 2026-02-13 14:43:19  
Are you thinking of the 40 seconds from Job Points?
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By Genoxd 2026-02-13 15:52:46  
Galkapryme said: »
I did not see where CC increases song duration in the Wiki. Is this a hidden effect that is otherwise known by the community?

It's right here: https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Clarion_Call
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-02-13 16:29:11  
Set's not bad for duration, but I wonder what you think the Obi, Stikini, and Regal are doing...?

I would put DT in those slots instead. It's piss easy to cap skill for potency and there's no macc check on buffs.

Also make sure your lua (I presume) has special cases for all the songs with other relevant gear like:
Mambo, Minne, Scherzo, Carol, Ballad (if you want), Etude.
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By Galkapryme 2026-02-14 20:23:23  
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Set's not bad for duration, but I wonder what you think the Obi, Stikini, and Regal are doing...?

I would put DT in those slots instead. It's piss easy to cap skill for potency and there's no macc check on buffs.

Also make sure your lua (I presume) has special cases for all the songs with other relevant gear like:
Mambo, Minne, Scherzo, Carol, Ballad (if you want), Etude.

I initially had DT items in those slots, but i figured if M.Acc were at all important, it couldn't hurt. but if you're saying it's wasted, i can go back to the DT items (Murky, Defending, Plat. Mog. Belt).
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-02-14 20:35:32  
Man, we never escaping the stereotypes
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By Asura.Hya 2026-02-14 23:12:32  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Man, we never escaping the stereotypes
Almost like they're stereotypes because the vast majority fulfill the requirements.
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By Asura.Milkinabag 2026-02-14 23:25:39  
he was probably using Clarion Call + using Kali in the offhand that gives +5% song duration
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2026-02-15 08:24:39  
Lakshmi.Buukki said: »
Man, we never escaping the stereotypes

Its Galkapryme he's the epitome of the stereotype.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2026-02-15 13:29:30  
Galkapryme said: »
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Set's not bad for duration, but I wonder what you think the Obi, Stikini, and Regal are doing...?

I would put DT in those slots instead. It's piss easy to cap skill for potency and there's no macc check on buffs.

Also make sure your lua (I presume) has special cases for all the songs with other relevant gear like:
Mambo, Minne, Scherzo, Carol, Ballad (if you want), Etude.

I initially had DT items in those slots, but i figured if M.Acc were at all important, it couldn't hurt. but if you're saying it's wasted, i can go back to the DT items (Murky, Defending, Plat. Mog. Belt).
You have two separate sets for song buffs and song debuffs right?
Macc does not help on buffs but it does help on debuffs on mobs. So, you absolutely should have separate sets if you do not already. But just in case it needs to be stated, NO, macc does not help when casting a buff on a player, they won't resist it.
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By Genoxd 2026-02-15 14:53:26  
Here, just read through this guide on BG. Honestly it'll answer basically everything.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Obamiwannabuffya:_A_Bard_Guide_by_Funkworkz
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-02-15 19:15:15  
Sorry, did you just tell the guy who couldn't read the Clarion call page to read the ffxi equivalent of a novel?

Seems a touch optimistic to me. Good advice, wrong audience
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By Genoxd 2026-02-15 20:13:49  
Yup...