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Demystifying Chocobo Raising Plans and Food!
Bahamut.Zedoma
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 127
By Bahamut.Zedoma 2025-11-17 11:13:35
1) Anything I can skip with the second+ chocobo? I still have to get the stories for Canter/Gallop, right, the Handkerchief, all that?
2) Aiming for something in the range of 255 STR, 40 END, 216 DSC, 128 RCP? Or do I want like 64 END and 192 DSC instead, I don't know how dump a dump stat it is. You get to skip the handkerchief process, and I recommend trying to skip running into Brutus and learning Canter by breeding multiple times until you get an egg with it inherited since the addon works on eggs from Finbarr.
Go for 254 4 254 128 or 254 34 224 128. The ELM saddle from C1 races gives +16 END during the race and as the best saddle it's all the END you need.
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By LightningHelix 2025-11-17 12:38:44
Honestly, I don't even know how to breed a chocobo... I have to get a Chococard from someone else? I can't just like, breed with a NPC?
FFXIV had the right idea, letting you purchase from a NPC.
I don't mind trying to find Brutus! That seems perfectly reasonable. I guess it might make my END too high but we have food and training plans for that.
Valefor.Philemon
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Game: FFXI
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By Valefor.Philemon 2025-11-17 12:52:24
You just need two chococards, M and F. You pick a plan to favor abilities/gender being passed along, and the color is a mix from the parents plus a random color I believe. You can get a new egg once per day.
Bahamut.Zedoma
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By Bahamut.Zedoma 2025-11-17 13:08:26
...and the color is a mix from the parents plus a random color I believe. Nothing random about the color inheritance luckily. It's a simplified 3x3 Punnett square for figuring out your color results based on the parents.
Example:
BLACK RED YELLOW Male
RED RED BLACK Female
Only possible egg outcomes:
BLACK RED YELLOW
BLACK RED BLACK
RED RED BLACK
RED RED YELLOW
Valefor.Philemon
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By Valefor.Philemon 2025-11-17 13:16:46
Oh that's interesting, good to know.
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By LightningHelix 2025-12-17 08:48:25
Having decided to raise another chocobo, it's 29 days old and at adulthood!
Using Care Plan = Listen to Music (actually Exhibit to the Public now that it's fully grown) and feeding 2 Zegham Carrots and 1 Azouph Greens to get DSC/RCP up.
Two questions:
1) Do item feeds... actually do anything positive? I'm using Ivaar's Chococard lua to track the exact stats and before/after feeding I had 0 change to DSC/RCP and -2 to STR. Am I better off just feeding Gysahl Greens? I saw the log on the previous page where Vomp Carrots did something literally 1/6 of feeds.
2) What's the optimal way to raise STR? I know (from the previous page's excellent posts) you can get 4/6 (alternating) points per 80 chocobuck "training session" - is that + buying Chocotrains from the AH the best way or is there a better method I don't know?
2.5) Okay, I lied. Related to that, I should hold off on STR until the mental stats are done if I'm in no hurry, right? Because I can use the care plans to do mental stats faster when STR is at 0 and I don't care about dropping it.
Bahamut.Anillo
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Game: FFXI
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By Bahamut.Anillo 2025-12-17 10:08:49
1. Maybe someone else with more experience can chime in here. I haven't tracked stats from feeding, but you should be using food better than Gysahl Greens. You might not get a stat gain after every item, but over the course of weeks, it will add up.
2. Once you can race and earn chocobucks yourself, will probably be faster to buy your own chocotrains rather than wait for them to show up on AH.
2.5. Assuming you are building a race chocobo, you want to focus on mental stats first until you learn the abilities you need, then you can work on STR/END.
By LightningHelix 2025-12-17 10:15:03
I do have a previous race chocobo online, I'm farming some Chocobucks daily, just a question of when I spend them - can only hold 1k but that's fine, that's still 12 training sessions.
By Felgarr 2025-12-17 12:53:47
Oh crap, you have to feed the damn thing? ***, ***...I haven't talked to my chocobo chick in like 5 days.
Bahamut.Zedoma
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By Bahamut.Zedoma 2025-12-17 15:15:24
1. You want to feed Sharug/Azouph greens as affection being at level 8 is the big contributor to making sure the daily plan is a success, which in turn is the best way to raise stats.
2. Optimal way to raise STR is Delivering Messages ~+4-+12 STR per day and Race STR tokens +5 per use.
3. Definitely do your DSC target in the first half of raising as it directly plays a role in running into the NPCs for KIs and being needed to learn said abilities.
Felgarr, you don't have to feed every single day and in fact many times you will not be able to based on how much energy was used up the day before if doing a token/low maintenance power level raise. But checking in every single day for a Watch Over is a huge requirement otherwise affection will tank.
By Dodik 2025-12-17 15:34:07
***, ***...I haven't talked to my chocobo chick in like 5 days.
Lol gg bro. That thing ded.
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By Felgarr 2026-02-27 15:38:40
***, ***...I haven't talked to my chocobo chick in like 5 days.
Lol gg bro. That thing ded.
I officially have the worst chocobo imaginable. I can't even win the first race where you have to come in 1st 2nd or 3rd out of 4 chocobos.
I really half-assed this chocobo raising. My chocobo is 75 days old, and is STR/END/DSC/RCP: A little below, A little below, Poor, Poor.
I gave the stables a new, warm chocobo egg. Do I check on him every day, like the monsters in Monster rearing? If yes, then why do the care plans even exist? I guess I have to feed it every day too right?
.....Frustrating. What do I do?
Cerberus.Echohawk
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 113
By Cerberus.Echohawk 2026-02-28 17:52:00
Bg wiki (kinda maybe) implies that celerity salad gives more discernment than zegham carrot ("boost" vs "small boost") and a ffxiclopedia guide states its +4 and "almost as much as a token". From what I've noticed below it seems to be much smaller. To be fair, I wasnt intentionally measuring its value and there's lots of flaws to what I observed. From what I noticed, salads are either giving discernment and receptivity equally, neither, or only a very small amount of discernment, like 1-1.5 weeks of feeding was less than a days difference of listen to music.
I know nothing previously about the parent chocos, only color which isn't relevant. All were made via matchmaking
Chocobo A has different parents than the other 3. ChocoA was walked amd fed zegham daily. Care plan was music. It reached a substandard in REC/DSC the same day. This suggests it did not inherit boosted stats. About a day or so later, I switched to a combo of celerity/tornado based on hunger levels and maximizing salad intake w/o over feeding. This led to 2-3 tornado/celerity a day. It reached A bit deficient in both stats simultaneously.
Chocos B-D have the same pair of parents. All 3 inherited either gallop or canter. Again walked/checked daily. Listen to music care plan. They began with celerity/tornado salads. One was overfed in one instance, but never recived a stomach ache. Choco's B and C reached substandard in -REC- prior to discernment reaching substandard. This and the inherited abilities tell me the mother likely had good receptivity. Choco D did not appear to inherit that receptivity as its rec stayed poor for a few days longer amd REC/DSC reached substandard on the same day.
Without wrecking the usability of my chocobos, is there a better way I can try to measure the effect? Celerity salads are not hard to make, but it is more effort than carrots and it doesnt seem to be worth feedimg them daily with a neglible return.
Bahamut.Zedoma
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Posts: 127
By Bahamut.Zedoma 2026-02-28 18:24:27
Salads are +0 to DSC/RCP and so are Carrots. The reason I know this is because I attempted to raise a chocobo with 96 in STR/END/DSC by day 29 in order obtain all 3 of the physical characteristics like the Noble chocobo mount.
We are lucky that Ivaar's chococard addon exists and it removes all the guesswork and also all of the information from past guides are about the system before the 2016 rework.
I recommend the first bird for anyone new to chocobos be raised like this:
Abilities to obtain: Gallop & Canter
Day 1-5 Basic Care
Day 6-20 Listen to Music
Day 21-30 Exhibit to the Public
Day 31-64 Delivering Messages (If STR caps early switch to Digging for Treasure)
Day 65+ Basic Care (Buying time to purchase/farm chocobucks to increase END to 4-34 and RCP back to 96-128 before day 120 using R: tokens)
254 4 254 128
Once this bird is made all the rest come much easier.
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By Chimerawizard 2026-02-28 18:29:53
***, ***...I haven't talked to my chocobo chick in like 5 days.
Lol gg bro. That thing ded.
I officially have the worst chocobo imaginable. I can't even win the first race where you have to come in 1st 2nd or 3rd out of 4 chocobos.
I really half-assed this chocobo raising. My chocobo is 75 days old, and is STR/END/DSC/RCP: A little below, A little below, Poor, Poor.
I gave the stables a new, warm chocobo egg. Do I check on him every day, like the monsters in Monster rearing? If yes, then why do the care plans even exist? I guess I have to feed it every day too right?
.....Frustrating. What do I do? Yes, you have to check it every day. Care Plan works best when the chocobo thinks of you as its parent, and basically not at all once affection is low enough.
Feeding daily is part of that.
Cerberus.Echohawk
サーバ: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 113
By Cerberus.Echohawk 2026-02-28 18:54:33
Dang that lua would have been nice before I started raising new birds. Its odd food doesmt do stats anymore but SE does weird things. 3/4 characters have birds of varying quality already made from like 15 years ago. Do chocobucks earned on one bird carry over to another if I just hoard them?
I've started a project to begin working out the exact stats every chocobo food and care plan gives!
This should help greatly in min/max'ing chocobo raising for the like three of us that actually care about such things. Mostly it just seems like an area of the game that hasn't been solved yet, and I think it'd be nice to get it hammered out.
Also, demystifying this stuff will prolly be helpful for pserver devs who wanna try and get the backend behavior as close to the real server as possible.
So, to start, my references:
1. How chocobo stats work from Niniann via this guide here: https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/32770/ninians-guide-to-chocobo-raising-v2/#2001744
Specifically the Attribute Levels section
2. Parsing of chocobo stats from Ivaar's chococard windower addon: https://github.com/Ivaar/Windower-addons/blob/master/chococard/chococard.lua
I wrote a simpler ashita addon that simply finds the first chococard in my inventory and pulls the four attributes off it, then prints it to the chat
Then I used this to log my chocobo's stats after every action (Do Action -> Get Card -> Log Stats -> Drop card -> Repeat)
So here's what I have found so far:
Care Plans
| Care Plan |
STR |
END |
DSC |
RCP |
| Basic Care |
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| Rest |
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| Take a Walk in Town |
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| Listen to Music |
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| Exercise Alone |
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| Exercise in a Group |
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| Interact With Children |
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| Interact With Chocobos |
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| Carrying Packages |
+4 |
+10 |
-4 |
-4 |
| Exhibiting to the Public |
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| Delivering Messages |
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| Digging for Treasure |
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| Acting in a Play |
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Food
| Feed |
STR |
END |
DSC |
RCP |
| Gysahl Greens |
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| Sharug Greens |
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| Azouph Greens |
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| San d'Oria Carrot |
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| Vomp Carrot |
+1 |
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-0.5 |
| Zegham Carrot |
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| Carrot Paste |
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| Herb Paste |
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| Vegetable Paste |
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| Worm Paste |
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| Gausebit Grass |
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| Garidav Wildgrass |
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| Tokopekko Wildgrass |
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| Chocolixir |
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| Chocotonic |
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| Cupid Worm |
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| Gregarious Worm |
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| Parasite Worm |
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| Celerity Salad |
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| Tornado Salad |
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| Lethe Potage |
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| Lethe Consomme |
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