November 2025: Post Your AMAN Trove Drops

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By Felgarr 2025-11-15 07:48:59  
Lili said: »
I know a guy that back in 2019 made 15/15 WSD+10 valorous-herculean-chironic, all with manually bought Dark Matters. Took him more than a handful of billions to by all the DM necessary.

Don't underestimate how wiling some people are to go "here's my wallet give me the shiny".

This reminds of me of that guy who shows up to Valkurm dunes XP parties in all Lizard +1 gear ...and then to Qufim Island in Beetle+1 gear.

Does anyone else remember the period of 3 months where had Raetic+1 weapons in existence?

Personally, I try to invest my FFXI play time into things that SE won't or can't invalidate too quickly. I guess the FFXI progression treadmill keeps moving and one way or another, makes fools of us all.
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By GetHelpNerd 2025-11-15 08:35:06  
why wouldn't you try to be the best you can be at whatever it is that you do?

y'all are weird sometimes
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By Fenrir.Kaldaek 2025-11-15 08:57:54  
cannot forget the absurd amount of money i paid for a scorpion harness +1 for those sata WS numbers!
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By Seun 2025-11-15 19:50:35  
Sorry if I missed it and it may still be too soon to tell, but has anyone seen the prismatic chest show up on entry yet?
By Shermansmith408 2025-11-15 20:53:59  
I guess master rank 9 (possibly/probably 10) will be the forbidden dps kick only veterans will have, considering you should have an account with 1000days + on it.
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By Fenrir.Zenion 2025-11-15 21:08:47  
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Sorry if I missed it and it may still be too soon to tell, but has anyone seen the prismatic chest show up on entry yet?

Yeah, I had that on one of mine; Mars orb, impossible to gauge thud, sapphire crystal dropped.
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By paladinepsot 2025-11-16 20:53:50  


Mars, prismatic on entry, ITG, Gyve Doublet
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By Asura.Malkavius 2025-11-18 09:11:41  
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Asura.Malkavius said: »
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Wow, I might have to keep doing Venus for 2x ITG chances.

You can get multiple ITG with Mars orb.
I just got an ITG on a normal chest and then on the Terminal
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By Asura.Sylveni 2025-12-10 12:25:19  
December Trove shaping up to be a "throw your computer out the window" month.
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By Felgarr 2025-12-11 12:43:40  
This is incredible.

I got 3 Loud Thuds and 2 ITG in a single Venus orb. It was a crappy pool, but still:

1x Loud Thuds were on the floor
2x ITG Thuds were on the floor.
9th coffer converted to gold (Loud Thud #2)
Terminal coffer was Loud Thud #3.




conclusion: I would infer from this that the most likely maximum ITG result is one of the following:

3 ITG coffers, (2 on the floor + rainbow conversion).
3 ITG coffers, (2 on the floor + Terminal coffer)
3 ITG coffers, (1 on the floor + 1 rainbow conversion + 1 Terminal).
4 ITG coffers, (2 on the floor + 1 rainbow + 1 ITG coffer).

I'm less inclined to believe 4 is possible, but given that 2 LTs appeared instead ITG for rainbow conversion and Terminal, I had to write it down here.

Edit: I went in with full intention to try to kill the mimic, too. Very weird.
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By Felgarr 2025-12-11 12:52:05  
Also, if anyone cares the messages can end with different punctuation. I have no idea what they mean unfortunately:
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    116 You feel like there's an impossible to gauge thud left to be made!
    311 You feel like there's an impossible to gauge thud left to be made.
    322 You feel like there's an impossible to gauge thud left to be made...?
    381 You feel like there's a huge sound left to be made...?
    507 You feel like there's a huge sound left to be made!
    621 You feel like there's a huge sound left to be made.
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By Lakshmi.Sahzi 2025-12-18 11:54:38  
I've been taking some time off FF11 for a couple months, popping on just here and there, so can someone clarify for me...

Are we all ITG or die now?

Or still opening on LT?

I've been LT or die for years, have pretty much everything it offers save 1 omen body and, of course, the $$ items which are nice.

So consensus? ITG or die?

Edit: Oh yeah, and Venus orbs instead of Mars now too? I did a few months of only Venus a while back and saw little difference. Worth it now?
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-18 11:57:47  
ITG is where all the rare goodies are, so yes
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2025-12-18 12:02:56  
I did some runs yesterday and didn't have a huge amount of luck - only got one ITG and it was just a pulse weapon. I think like most things there's not a right answer and there are differing views of "optimum" based on where you are in the game. Based on the clear times there are obviously some folks that don't like *** around and just run in and hit the center chest, which I find odd and fascinating, but not inherently the wrong way to do it.
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By Lakshmi.Sahzi 2025-12-18 14:32:06  
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I did some runs yesterday and didn't have a huge amount of luck - only got one ITG and it was just a pulse weapon. I think like most things there's not a right answer and there are differing views of "optimum" based on where you are in the game. Based on the clear times there are obviously some folks that don't like *** around and just run in and hit the center chest, which I find odd and fascinating, but not inherently the wrong way to do it.

I wonder if those folks aren't statistically correct...100% chance of win but low, but not zero, chance of LT ILG? Maybe on a longer timeline that strat may be the correct one?

Of course, you need to work out all other statistical possibilities and stats is for nerds.

And, no, I do not believe there is only 1 mimic per run. Based on my lifetime of runs, I've accurately surmised that, on 99% of runs, there are 9-10 mimics per run....

Because, if I'm wrong, then the 1/1 rate I hit on every mule, every month, every orb? Scientists should stick me in an underground lab and study my personal probability field cause I've got some serious
X-Files s>*t going on.
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By Felgarr 2025-12-18 15:50:52  
Lakshmi.Sahzi said: »
Phoenix.Enochroot said: »
I did some runs yesterday and didn't have a huge amount of luck - only got one ITG and it was just a pulse weapon. I think like most things there's not a right answer and there are differing views of "optimum" based on where you are in the game. Based on the clear times there are obviously some folks that don't like *** around and just run in and hit the center chest, which I find odd and fascinating, but not inherently the wrong way to do it.

I wonder if those folks aren't statistically correct...100% chance of win but low, but not zero, chance of LT ILG? Maybe on a longer timeline that strat may be the correct one?

Of course, you need to work out all other statistical possibilities and stats is for nerds.

And, no, I do not believe there is only 1 mimic per run. Based on my lifetime of runs, I've accurately surmised that, on 99% of runs, there are 9-10 mimics per run....

Because, if I'm wrong, then the 1/1 rate I hit on every mule, every month, every orb? Scientists should stick me in an underground lab and study my personal probability field cause I've got some serious
X-Files s>*t going on.

To be honest, I've done over 3,000 troves and my feeling that is that the mimic appearance is just misdirection for us, the players.

I think SE has a distribution table for Trove outcomes, just like item drops have Very Common, Common, Uncommon, Rare, Very Rare, Super Rare and Ultra Rare (7). I think there are similar (7) or so possible outcomes and those 7 outcomes occur after the first 3 troves are picked (where we are given a hint based on a player "intuition" message). As of November 2025, the intuition message does give us some clues as to whether there is a Loud thud or ITG Thud on the floor...but this has a new feature of occasionally being incorrect or misleading. (i.e. we beat the trove, but didn't get the implied outcome. Also, the punctuation of the hint message changes, ending in ".", "?" or "!").

To be clear, I think that:

  1. Your first 3 chest choices are truly random.

  2. The remaining 7 chests follow a random distribution with their own percentages accordingly, just like items have their own distributions (when TH is concerned. See here: Treasure Hunter).

  3. You get a hint after this, but that's it. (The hint is not guaranteed to be true unfortunately).


Now, for SE to add some additional misdirection, we can have 1-2 rainbow chests spawn at the start. See source here from earlier this year: https://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/52655/the-aman-trove-bc/71/#3734646

Edit: Do I think any more than 2 rainbow chests is possible even after the ITG update? I vote No...but I certainly think SE wants us to believe it is possible. More misdirection! Isn't this fun? :)
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2025-12-18 20:09:16  
Lakshmi.Sahzi said: »
I wonder if those folks aren't statistically correct...100% chance of win but low, but not zero, chance of LT ILG? Maybe on a longer timeline that strat may be the correct one?

Oh sure, it's the only way to "win" - though it'd be funny for SE to eliminate that by giving the center chest a chance of being the mimic if none of the other chests are open... which, maybe they already do - I'd never know!

My pet theory is that there's only one mimic and every time you open a chest it re-rolls the distribution of the mimic (which would include it staying exactly where it was). I don't think there's any evidence for this or any way to test for it, that's why it's a pet theory.

I totally discount any of the hints because they're unreliable.

I'm a fan of the added sound effect (and the fact that you can hear it from a character outside the arena if you're in the same party). I hope they keep developing it with things like fireworks going off and whatnot. Maybe have an elemental spawn from one and replenish or eat a chest. Lots of fertile ground if they have a little imagination.
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By Felgarr 2025-12-18 21:40:13  
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I'm a fan of the added sound effect (and the fact that you can hear it from a character outside the arena if you're in the same party). I hope they keep developing it with things like fireworks going off and whatnot. Maybe have an elemental spawn from one and replenish or eat a chest. Lots of fertile ground if they have a little imagination.

Same! I love the sound effects. When Troves first came out, I joked with some LS mates that one of the chests should twitch or twinkle slightly, just to mess with us, haha.
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By messerschmdt 2025-12-20 10:14:44  
Mars Orb run I got a Null loop from an ITG thud and also got 5mm gil. The run before that was more typical for me (I only got noise / thuds until I got the thwack).
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By Carbuncle.Slib 2025-12-20 10:24:06  
Felgarr said: »
Phoenix.Enochroot said: »
I'm a fan of the added sound effect (and the fact that you can hear it from a character outside the arena if you're in the same party). I hope they keep developing it with things like fireworks going off and whatnot. Maybe have an elemental spawn from one and replenish or eat a chest. Lots of fertile ground if they have a little imagination.

Same! I love the sound effects. When Troves first came out, I joked with some LS mates that one of the chests should twitch or twinkle slightly, just to mess with us, haha.

Glad you guys like it. I felt different lol. The sound effects were cheesy to me, like they could have sounded a bit more interesting.
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By Felgarr 2025-12-20 11:09:04  
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Felgarr said: »
Phoenix.Enochroot said: »
I'm a fan of the added sound effect (and the fact that you can hear it from a character outside the arena if you're in the same party). I hope they keep developing it with things like fireworks going off and whatnot. Maybe have an elemental spawn from one and replenish or eat a chest. Lots of fertile ground if they have a little imagination.

Same! I love the sound effects. When Troves first came out, I joked with some LS mates that one of the chests should twitch or twinkle slightly, just to mess with us, haha.

Glad you guys like it. I felt different lol. The sound effects were cheesy to me, like they could have sounded a bit more interesting.

Either you're not accustomed to hearing as many ITG thuds as we are, or maybe you need a new headset. ;)
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By Seun 2025-12-20 11:20:17  
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Glad you guys like it. I felt different lol. The sound effects were cheesy to me, like they could have sounded a bit more interesting.

I agree that the sounds could have been better, but this is still a godsend for those of us who are blind or low vision. Easy to grant a pass here.
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Ever since the November update I've pulled over 1,3 billion Gil from the Gobbie Box, with the two Murky Cores being a wild card, as there have been no sales on AH yet and I have no idea what they might be worth at this time.

Besides what's shown I also got a Hoxne Ring which I dont have a screenshot of, because honestly, I didnt notice it at first, only found a few days later in the inventory of one of my mules.

I had around 1000 SP Gobbie Dial Keys to trade, of which I did most during the free campaign that started just recently.

That being said, regarding the thread title: Trove only gives me death or garbage.
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By Nascia 2025-12-20 16:59:04  
Venus Orb just now

Noise > ITG > Thud (Terminal Coffer)

Null Masque
Pursuer's Cuffs
Worn sack of duskorb stones +2
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By Phoenix.Enochroot 2025-12-21 12:07:05  
Another pet theory I've been kicking around since SE announced how the Limbus chests works... what if the zone you enter the aman trove bc mattered in some way? Mimic chance, ITG chance, changing the weights of items in pools, etc. Wouldn't have considered this a remote possibility before Limbus, but now it's on the table, I guess.
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By Phoenix.Rehmii 2025-12-23 02:16:34  
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
ITG: Dyna-D synth mats (job crystals, Ratnaraj), hoxne accessories, Wyrm Ash, Orb of Radiance loot, Wyrm God loot (weapon/armor only most likely), Lilith loot (Malignance armor only most likely), Tartarus Platemail, Pulse Weapons and Armor(?)

LT: Non-hoxne trove drops, volte, Reisenjima HELM drops, Selbina HTMB drops (MINUS Lilith) , pulse cells , moogle amplifiers, Ra'Kaz Starstone, REMA stone Coffers, Omen Wave 2 drops and boss materials (Nusku Shield, Moonbow Leather, Hope Crystal)

T: Older HTMB stuff , Escha Zi'tah stuff, Vagary drops (equipment and materials), Delve boss materials, Heroism Grand Coffer, S. Ast. Det. Gr. Co, Abdhaljs Seal, REMA stone box (seen pluton box), Large Lustreless X box (seen scale)

N: Goldsmithing stones, Skirmish pouches (Snow/Leaf/DuskXXX +2, Horror+2), Reisenjima Stone Pouches (Fer, Tau, Pel), Geo scrolls, Voidwatch Synth mats incl Provenance (serica cloth, voidwrought plate, Sealord Skin, Ormolu Ingot, etc), Voidwalker Synth Mats (Pelt of Dawon, Befouled Silver, Kidney Stone, etc), Codex of Etchings, HTMB synth mats (Hepa Ore, Sif's Lock, etc but can someone confirm Wyrm Blood?), Lustreless X box

I got a Malignance Pole off of a Mars Orb Loud Thud

So either the above list is incorrect or maybe the pole is a higher drop rate item that didn't make the ITG Thud list.

Mars Orb:
noise (heavy sound)
thud (heavy sound)
loud thud (heavy sound)
noise (heavy sound)
loud thud
loud thud (on exit)

Spoils:
Cyan Coral (loud thud)
Malignance Pole (loud thud)
Kyrene's earring (loud thud)
Marquetry staff (thud)
Hahava's mail (noise)
Sif's lock (noise)


same sequence every run. all chests were brown color
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-12-23 08:19:51  
Multiple people posted Malignance armor in ITG, so yes its likely that Malignance Pole is a LT drop.
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By Asura.Sylveni 2025-12-23 14:02:30  
Phoenix.Enochroot said: »
Another pet theory I've been kicking around since SE announced how the Limbus chests works... what if the zone you enter the aman trove bc mattered in some way? Mimic chance, ITG chance, changing the weights of items in pools, etc. Wouldn't have considered this a remote possibility before Limbus, but now it's on the table, I guess.

Another thing to note is how the ITG intuition prompt might lend to this. Unless the ITG chest bounces constantly, getting an “your intuition was wrong” leads me to believe that things are pre-placed when you enter. But if this were the case I’m sure there would be people using cheats to figure out what chest is what.

And, tinfoil hat me constantly seeing the same orb buyers hitting home runs thinks there already might be.

*tinfoil hat off*
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By Felgarr 2025-12-23 14:15:36  
Asura.Sylveni said: »
Phoenix.Enochroot said: »
Another pet theory I've been kicking around since SE announced how the Limbus chests works... what if the zone you enter the aman trove bc mattered in some way? Mimic chance, ITG chance, changing the weights of items in pools, etc. Wouldn't have considered this a remote possibility before Limbus, but now it's on the table, I guess.

Another thing to note is how the ITG intuition prompt might lend to this. Unless the ITG chest bounces constantly, getting an “your intuition was wrong” leads me to believe that things are pre-placed when you enter. But if this were the case I’m sure there would be people using cheats to figure out what chest is what.

And, tinfoil hat me constantly seeing the same orb buyers hitting home runs thinks there already might be.

*tinfoil hat off*

You're probably right. I think things are pre-placed too ...but only discernable server side.

In my case, the best occurrence (which is also my rarest), is when you have 1 ITG on the floor opened already and 3 chests remaining. You have a 2/3rd chance of witnessing chest 9 convert to rainbow or prism, followed by a terminal coffer, which can also be ITG. However, post-12/10 update, I encountered this situation again but with the added possibility of 2 ITGs being on the floor. So, this means that 3 ITGs are 100% possible, and 4 ITGs are theoretically possible (2 ITGs on the floor, last chest converts to rainbow for ITG#3, and finally, the terminal coffer returns ITG#4.)
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By Asura.Sylveni 2025-12-23 14:31:06  
Felgarr said: »
Asura.Sylveni said: »
Phoenix.Enochroot said: »
Another pet theory I've been kicking around since SE announced how the Limbus chests works... what if the zone you enter the aman trove bc mattered in some way? Mimic chance, ITG chance, changing the weights of items in pools, etc. Wouldn't have considered this a remote possibility before Limbus, but now it's on the table, I guess.

Another thing to note is how the ITG intuition prompt might lend to this. Unless the ITG chest bounces constantly, getting an “your intuition was wrong” leads me to believe that things are pre-placed when you enter. But if this were the case I’m sure there would be people using cheats to figure out what chest is what.

And, tinfoil hat me constantly seeing the same orb buyers hitting home runs thinks there already might be.

*tinfoil hat off*

You're probably right. I think things are pre-placed too ...but only discernable server side.

In my case, the best occurrence (which is also my rarest), is when you have 1 ITG on the floor opened already and 3 chests remaining. You have a 2/3rd chance of witnessing chest 9 convert to rainbow or prism, followed by a terminal coffer, which can also be ITG. However, post-12/10 update, I encountered this situation again but with the added possibility of 2 ITGs being on the floor. So, this means that 3 ITGs are 100% possible, and 4 ITGs are theoretically possible (2 ITGs on the floor, last chest converts to rainbow for ITG#3, and finally, the terminal coffer returns ITG#4.)


I am jealous you've been able to track to that conclusion x.x.

I've been tracking my trove luck for the past 8 months, and it's... not great. Many tinfoil meltdowns.
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