How Does Hoxne Change BLU Sub Choice (or Does It)?

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How Does Hoxne Change BLU Sub Choice (or does it)?
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By Galkapryme 2026-07-11 06:25:57  
I'm running Hoxne Ampulla on most of my DD jobs that don't frequently change the range or ammo slot. It obviously opened up a lot of opportunity to focus on STP and reduce the need for as much X-hit gear. But as job traits are set on BLU, I wonder if and how the Hoxne Ampulla changes sub job choice. I haven't played BLU in a few years, and I'm about to step back into it (if only for Einherjar). I was thinking subbing WAR is no longer needed. Subbing DRK has utility, but maybe subbing DRG for the more powerful WS would be good, or subbing SAM for more rapid WS.

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Would it be a good idea to sub a DW job to free up traits I wouldn't need to use for DW (unlikely, but worth asking for a returning sometimey BLU)?
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By Shiva.Paulu 2026-07-11 06:44:34  
Sub dragoon is probably the play.
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By Taint 2026-07-11 07:00:54  
BLU/DRG with Caliburnus and Ampulla = Monster
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By Taint 2026-07-11 07:00:57  
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2026-07-11 07:11:26  
Galkapryme said: »
I'm running Hoxne Ampulla on most of my DD jobs that don't frequently change the range or ammo slot. It obviously opened up a lot of opportunity to focus on STP and reduce the need for as much X-hit gear. But as job traits are set on BLU, I wonder if and how the Hoxne Ampulla changes sub job choice. I haven't played BLU in a few years, and I'm about to step back into it (if only for Einherjar). I was thinking subbing WAR is no longer needed. Subbing DRK has utility, but maybe subbing DRG for the more powerful WS would be good, or subbing SAM for more rapid WS.

OR...

Would it be a good idea to sub a DW job to free up traits I wouldn't need to use for DW (unlikely, but worth asking for a returning sometimey BLU)?

/DRG has been the go to sub for meleeing for a while now and DW3 on a 1200 gift BLU is only 2 spells and 4 points.
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By Kadokawa 2026-07-11 07:21:26  
dual wield and hoxane will be a tp feeding machine, you will need a balance of SB and STP in your tp set or similar as tizona am3 set. enjoy spending 300k gil an hour, maybe double it on dual wield.
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By Asura.Hya 2026-07-11 16:53:03  
Kadokawa said: »
enjoy spending 300k gil an hour, maybe double it on dual wield.
Asura's biggest gilbuyer wouldn't even flinch at ten times this number if it lets him compete with competent players.
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-07-11 18:59:40  
Depends what you're fighting, but imo 300k an hour is probably an exaggeration because the primary events are more running than engaging. With the gameplay being so WS heavy (there's virtually no longer any long-term TP phase with TP bonus weapons and high multihit/STP builds now), you spend far less than you would think. Monk is the exception because it benefits a lot from TP overflow and can't use a TPB weapon. Most jobs fire their WS off within 2-4 seconds of a TP phase, which is like 3 attack round averages with Sam roll.

Gaol bosses are 15 minutes max, Segment farming is 30 minutes max with tons of running, Limbus is maybe 45 minutes? Which events are a full hour that you aren't running the majority of the time? Limbus is what I would consider the most expensive event of everything, if you were to use it.

However, let's assume it's spot on exactly how much it costs to run Hoxne for an hour. 300k average per hour. Is that supposed to be expensive? It's not like you pay it all at once, up front, like a food item you use with duration. You pay for what you swing. Unlike am item like gyudon+1, where you run for most of the event and then only get use out of whatever fighting you do, but paid for the entire duration. So it's not a true "you lose 300k for running Hoxne". Compare with something like meds, I pay 240k every refill of panaceas, which I mostly use a stack in a single Limbus climb. It's kind of on par with what other things cost. It's not unreasonable
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By Draylo 2026-07-11 20:38:49  
I dont like seeing my gilz go down!
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By Mistressfifi 2026-07-11 23:27:51  
Taint said: »
BLU/DRG with Caliburnus and Ampulla = Monster
just curious. how much does Caliburnus beat Tizona when ampulla is in use? and another weird question is can s4 prime beat tizona, or does it have to be s5?
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By Phoenix.Xax 2026-07-11 23:56:05  
Mistressfifi said: »
Taint said: »
BLU/DRG with Caliburnus and Ampulla = Monster
just curious. how much does Caliburnus beat Tizona when ampulla is in use? and another weird question is can s4 prime beat tizona, or does it have to be s5?
Probably depends and situational. Imperator does less than expiacion from what I've seen in practice. And tizona can also benefit just as much from hoxne. Can completely ignore am3 build up and just fire away. So comes down to do the skillchains from imperator spam make up or are skillchains impossible?
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By zeta 2026-07-12 08:27:08  
Even if it was 300k and hour that is 1.5m in 5 hours of game play. Do a ody C clear and you are break even. Who cares.
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By Bahamut.Creaucent 2026-07-12 08:52:01  
Phoenix.Xax said: »
Mistressfifi said: »
Taint said: »
BLU/DRG with Caliburnus and Ampulla = Monster
just curious. how much does Caliburnus beat Tizona when ampulla is in use? and another weird question is can s4 prime beat tizona, or does it have to be s5?
Probably depends and situational. Imperator does less than expiacion from what I've seen in practice. And tizona can also benefit just as much from hoxne. Can completely ignore am3 build up and just fire away. So comes down to do the skillchains from imperator spam make up or are skillchains impossible?

You only use Imperator to put up AM3 and then you spam savage blade at 1000 tp.
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