RMT Getting Around Filter.

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RMT getting around filter.
 Bahamut.Stanflame
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-11-14 04:29:36  
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
I hate people who use /p macros EXCESSIVELY.

shut up
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2009-11-14 04:34:09  
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
I hate people who use /p macros EXCESSIVELY.

shut up

i hate people who say up after shut :(
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 Siren.Clinpachi
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-11-14 04:49:27  
What's sad is not only are they getting around the official filter they are still getting past chatmon too lol.

I just keep adding ***to the filter list and they just keep coming back, at least its not 20 times a day and just 1-2... but still :\
 
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 Siren.Clinpachi
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-11-14 05:11:15  
It seems to be working ok on my end atm though, i add the filters as i get them and i never see a repeat, and i still havn't seen BR74 if they even still promote that.

I'm on windows 7 where so much ***is up in the air at this exact moment XD
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By Ragnarok.Titox 2009-11-14 06:32:28  
Kujata.Thevenominside said:
The RMT must dual box 2 accounts.

One with chat filter on, and one who sends the tells.

They then must send this account tells until they can get a message through.

SE actually thinks people are stupid.

they can check if it is filter by "/tell <me> <spam message here>" and i got block by my own message when i typed "brosale.com" lol



Edit: Second test (sorry for the lame message tell to a LS member was testing it by adding some random words >>' )

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By Leviathan.Aikar 2009-11-14 09:49:59  
chatmon was updated to fix for the patch, but i didnt know they started adding invisible characters to the message to get around it. im about to fix that with chatmon.
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2009-11-14 10:37:40  
Thanks Aikar!
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By Valefor.Quickmart 2009-11-20 22:56:28  
Worst mistakes SE made:

1)The message letting the RMT know their tell was blocked. If they had no idea they were blocked they couldn't adjust it so quickly.

2)Random chatter between friends is triggering the filter - WTF?



That looks NOTHING like brotard spam...

Would /filter add "phrase here" have been so dang hard? Its nearly a copy paste from blacklist code -.-
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-11-20 22:59:23  
I had one today. Think they figured out they need better names cause his name was jerrytom
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By Garuda.Feifongwong 2009-11-29 12:47:52  
Just to show how pathetic they are getting with changing their URLs because of the filter lol

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By Siren.Astarael 2009-11-29 16:50:22  
Garuda.Feifongwong said:
Just to show how pathetic they are getting with changing their URLs because of the filter lol

It's getting worse, I was lmao when this came through



Surely their target customers wouldnt be able to figure that out :3

Asta~
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By Fairy.Specopsz 2009-11-29 17:28:37  
PC users, should switch to 360.
Party chat is a saver.
Unless you have like 23423984 friends and cant talk to them all at the same time.
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By Bahamut.Raelia 2009-11-29 18:13:47  
an*ntalk.c-m?
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-11-29 18:21:50  
ewww raelia
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By Bahamut.Stanflame 2009-11-29 18:22:53  
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
I hate people who use /p macros EXCESSIVELY.

shut up

i hate people who say up after shut :(

Shut The *** Up there, Better?
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By Fairy.Mayeh 2009-11-30 00:34:34  
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
I hate people who use /p macros EXCESSIVELY.

shut up

i hate people who say up after shut :(

Shut The *** Up there, Better?
Still said up after shut.
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By Garuda.Shizukat 2009-11-30 00:44:04  
Siren.Astarael said:
It's getting worse, I was lmao when this came through

Surely their target customers wouldnt be able to figure that out :3
Yea had that kind of tell too. Kind of replied to them in the same way :p
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By Titan.Guenhwyvar 2009-11-30 01:52:23  
I can see it now, the FFXI spam filter will spawn some kind of new 1337speek


the rest of the world will think were total *** for doing it too.
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By Garuda.Shizukat 2009-11-30 05:22:09  
Sylph.Strident said:
Sorry to say but SE will never do anything regarding RMT actions. They may say to the community that they are working diligently to help the "real" players. But in all regards think of the money that SE is making off of these "RMT accounts". Yes, they'll continue to catch them and delete their accounts, but in the same token they get much more money per month back when they let the same IP's make accounts over. It's a win win for them and for this reason RMT actions will never end. :)

I don't think that the costs of the extra serverload and GM's extra time all these RMT add, weighs up to what the RMT add by buying new copies of FFXI.

Well the advertising (and I'll assume the distribution also) is done entirely by using the free accounts. Cost for RMT 0, cost for SE a lot
And I think most RMT activities have now move to more "not so obvious" things that aren't detected so quickly. So I don't think they actually lose that many accounts because they get caught.

Anyway, in the end it only comes down to one things, if people stop buying gil, you won't have any RMT left. And you'll always have people buying gil because they have the feeling they need to to "enjoy" the game to it's fullest (by having a big e-peen for example).
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-11-30 12:18:03  
Fairy.Mayeh said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Fairy.Ghaleon said:
Bahamut.Stanflame said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
I hate people who use /p macros EXCESSIVELY.

shut up

i hate people who say up after shut :(

Shut The *** Up there, Better?
Still said up after shut.

stick it in your corn pipe and toot the national anthem Stan...

So yeah, I haven;t had a RMT /tell all morning...

Could they be giving up?
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By Fenrir.Dramanue 2009-11-30 12:48:31  
Garuda.Feifongwong said:
Just to show how pathetic they are getting with changing their URLs because of the filter lol


Wow, that totally reminds me of 4chan's anontalk spam. >.>

As far as the secondary topic (/p macros), I hate the excessive use of them as well, -especially- for vokes. I can maybe understand "Cure" macros by whm's so that people would know that they at least -tried- to heal the designated person (even if they died)

Crimson Footlicker hits Bob for 923 points of damage.
(Imanicewhm) Cure V on Bob!! Casting!!
Imanicewhm starts casting Cure V on Bob.
Crimson Footlicker hits Bob for 240 points of damage.
Bob was defeated by Crimson Footlicker.
(Imanicewhm) Sorry, failed.
(Bob) At least you tried, and for that, I love you.

But yeah, anyway, last thing I need to be seeing are Sam's meditate macro's, Pld's voke "ready" macros, or other such useless macros. If you need to be reminded that your skill is ready, use /echo. It's there for a reason. And if you must have a sound accompanying your macros, send a /tell to yourself and set your /tell filter to sound. Seriously, though, since "ready" macros go off after 30 seconds... it really just means you didn't do much else for 30 seconds.
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By Valefor.Quickmart 2009-11-30 13:42:02  
I said:
Random chatter between friends is triggering the filter - WTF?




They basically gave me the "working as intended" there. Yet all the previously blocked tells pictured above suddenly work. Saying they corrected or adjusted the filter is to hard for poor SE's little ego...
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By Hades.Stefanos 2009-12-01 17:35:04  
Another way they're delivering tells now:

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By Gilgamesh.Kunimitsu 2009-12-18 13:08:35  
Anybody else been getting completely random /tells? I'm still getting all the ;;=bro etc. But im also getting alot like this...

Also some with just ~~~~~#~~~~~~#~~~~~~##~~~~~~#.
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By Carbuncle.Zanno 2009-12-18 13:15:49  
Gilgamesh.Kunimitsu said:
Anybody else been getting completely random /tells? I'm still getting all the ;;=bro etc. But im also getting alot like this...

Also some with just ~~~~~#~~~~~~#~~~~~~##~~~~~~#.
i got a "GGGGG GG GGGGG GGGG GG GGGGGG GGG
GGG GG GG GGGGG GGG GGGG GG"

a minute ago lol
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By Seraph.Jessee 2009-12-18 13:39:59  
It's Morris code ... if you decode it, you'll end up with a clue. The clue will lead you on a long and arduous path with many quests and battles to be fought along the way. In the end ... if you've made it that far, you'll be rich with treasures ... for $24/1M ... ... ...
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-12-18 14:04:21  
Seraph.Jessee said:
It's Morris code ... if you decode it, you'll end up with a clue. The clue will lead you on a long and arduous path with many quests and battles to be fought along the way. In the end ... if you've made it that far, you'll be rich with treasures ... for $24/1M ... ... ...

lol!
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By Asura.Patriclis 2009-12-18 14:23:36  
What I find amusing and it's a friend of mine who first said this: "Why do the RMT even bother trying to get around the filter? Anyone who has the filter on clearly isn't a customer since the filter is there to block RMT tells, it's not like it's helping them make more money, it's just wasting their time"