In The Name Of Science

Isn't the Obi's mainly for sea/sky type of EG? Kinda used to assist with ele skill for landing more dmg from spells?

Not sure what your asking but a free +10% dmg for nuking element of the that day or weather or 25% for double weather or add them together if you have both is almost never something to frown upon if you can do it. I mean sure there's a small chance it will proc anyways and then another small chance it will fully proc but why not make it 100% 100% of the time?

I understand. I am still saving up for a Witch Sash so I have to use an Ocean Rope for the time being. So keep with the sash for enfeebling spells and use the obi(s) for elemental magic?

I guess you could hit the numbers sometimes, but with the Obi it's very consistently high. I think my high spike on Drain was 450ish, and 190something on Aspir, but that was in Dynamis on Darksday.

For the other question about the Obis, they give you full benefit of the day/weather bonuses, so for a BLM, you should probably shoot to have at least Dark, Ice, Thunder as a minimum. Having all 8 is great, but those are probably the most important ones for a BLM.

The strategy I used was that I put them in my Mog Satchel if day/weather weren't right. Since gear won't swap from Satchel, I'd stay in Penitent's Rope in that case.

A SCH or SMN should ideally have all 8, while a WHM would probably only care about Light (which is very nice for Nyzul and Temenos, since they are full time light weather).

Why would a SMN ever use any?

A honest mistake no doubt, these Obi(s) do not offer the weather effects that would aid avatar perpetuation.

Smn wouldn't... I guess maybe for when they cure... idk thats just crazy talk

I got a Korin for my Summoner when I'm on it in Temenos.

Lol no ***they don't actually cause weather/day they just take advantage of them. Just like smn af/relic does

Pentintents is cheap and still better.
Actually I can hit those numbers without the obi.

*Nods.* Penitent's is great. And tbh... Witch Sash is really overrated for what it costs.
Obi's are GREAT for anything of that element if you're on that day / weather and they're even better if you have a sch friend. Remember, you get 10% magic attack and 10% magic accuracy for just matching the day or single weather. That increases to 20/25/35 %'s if you match more.

Thank you for your input friends. I will see what my chances are to obtain a Penitent's Rope in the near future.

Mmhmm. My pleasure. =)

Who knows why for SMN, just know that for some reason at least one SMN I know was determined to have them all. He did eventually level SCH, but this was WAY before he did that.

Perhaps he thought there was some hidden -perp or something.

Maybe one of you folks with SMN that high can verify/deny that possibility, or maybe he thought he got better effects when using the avatar of the day with the obi equipped? Either way, if there does happen to be some use for them on SMN, I'm not personally sure what it is, nor can I test it out.

As far as SCH, that's quite simple, since they can make their own weather.

My point on the Anrin Obi in Dynamis is that you can consistently hit those numbers because of the bonus being always in effect. You can certainly get the bonus numbers a noticeable amount without them in double weather, especially on Darksday, but with the Obi you get them all the time. I used to love to Drain statues and watch a huge chunk drop off their HP for just 21 MP.

There's no point in having them for Summoner, end of story.

Decoration?

I'll trust you on it, like I said, maybe it was just his excuse to go solo in Sea or something, but he was dead serious about getting them and spent a ton of time to do it. He leveled SCH a long time later, so either way it ended up being time well spent for him, but apparently not for his SMN.

Sorry for the curveball.

I do enjoy having the obis for my Rdm/Blm though. Just never had the need to get anything beyond Korin for my Smn/Whm.

Guess this one is a question of a sort, but my understanding of the Obi function is that they are M.Acc as well as a damage boost when they are in day/weather phase.

I know that I used my Anrin in Dynamis with my Sleep/Sleepga macros and probably had by far the least resist issues, especially on those pesky Paladins. I'd pretty much swap in full Enfeebling Skill setup, but Anrin Obi for the waist.

Does that sound right to people who have used them? Maybe it was a placebo effect, or maybe it was me having Pluto when a lot of other people had Dark, but I remember countless times where I was the only one that could land Sleep.

Also of note, because of the great Drain/Aspirs in Dynamis, I used a tad more Fast Cast and Haste with them in there than I otherwise would have. For example, I think I used Turban, Rostrum, Loquacious for them where I didn't have Dark Skill. Been a long time and I'm pretty much retired now, but does that sound "right" to people?

To the OP, happy hunting and bring a friend with TH if you can. Even if it's just a TH3 Thief to launch one bolt at the enemy. It definitely makes it less boring.

Well as far as I can tell only things that that say enhance drain/aspir dark skill and maybe macc and of course staffs and Y scyth effects drain/aspir so gearing mostly in haste/fast cast otherwise is good. As far as macc wiki says maybe and yes and no I think depending on what page your on lol if that means anything and having had my rairin and ... er hyorin for awhile I've noticed more resist wearing it than wearing my Prope/witch sash.

Yeah, they don't enhance dark skill, just give the the full day/weather bonus to dark-element based magic (yay, my warp and tractor get a bonus! ... j/k) when in phase.

If they do, in fact, give a sizable Magic Accuracy bonus, then it would explain the ability to land Sleep better in Dynamis over other BLMs with more INT, more Merits, and similar gear. If anyone has actually done empirical tests (well, as close as you can with FF) and has decent sample sizes, I'd be interested to see the results.

As for Drain/Aspir, my feeling is not that it's anything more than the percentage bonus that you'd get on any other spell, although the M.Acc would help explain the high consistency.

Of course, in Dynamis, it's not like the mobs resist a lot (well, except in cases where it's a mob trait, like those Effing PLD and their Resist Sleep).

Update:

With the help of some friends, I was able to earn a Relaxing Earring. This should help out a bit with recovering lost mp with multiple jobs.

Moving onto Obi(s)^^

anrin for smn/sch drain/aspir.

bump - Sorry still trying to find people who are interested.

COngrats on the Earring!

Thanks a lot Aramina!

Thanks for the great advice! I think I might have enough organs for an Hyorin Obi... (I accidentally turned in a White Chip instead of a Clear Chip so I ended up with a Korin Obi for my first one.

Oh well 1/8 and moving forward! Thanks for your support everyone!

Korin's still good for some things. Healing with Aurorastorm or healing in Temenos as well. =)

Yes! Funny that you brought this up. It did help a lot with WoTG: mission25. We low man'd this and just barely had enough MP. Curing with SCH and WHM took this to the limit.

2 more Obi and I'm all done ^^ So much farming >.>

Valefor.Ellise

Hehe. It sure is nice to get a guaranteed 10%+ more HP on all of your cures.

Congratulations on all of the obis you've gotten so far. =)