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How to prevent the level cap increase:
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone
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By Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone 2010-02-28 15:16:47
I will demand that SE shut down FFXI because of this!! No FFXI is much better than having FFXI with level cap 99!
Lulz
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2010-02-28 15:27:18
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said: Bob Dole demand that SE shut down FFXI because of this!! bob dole says No FFXI is much better than having FFXI with level cap 99! bob dole likes to say bob dole, bob dole, bob dole.
bob dole Lulz
I just had 2, cuz im bored.
Lakshmi.Yumeara said: Know what's a really hard game? That new multi-player Mario Bros on Wii. Now I'm not saying I own it, or anything more powerful than a cantankerous old PS2, But a courser man may even call that game *** hard. Just try to not kill your team-mate every other jump. Go ahead. Try.
Oh I'm sorry, We were talking about chocolate?
your the greatest. Im thinking of getting a Wii
Hades.Zandra
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By Hades.Zandra 2010-02-28 15:31:37
I'm with the OP, and I'm going to voice my discontent at this total BS. I'm so close to maxing out my jobs in this game and in a few months, just before I probably get my last pieces of gear it will all be just about worthless, thanks for nothing SE.
I was going to stay and play after 14 is released but if I have to get grinding and leveling again... well I just don't have it in me to do that again.
Bahamut.Kaioshin
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-02-28 15:32:57
Hades.Zandra said: I'm with the OP, and I'm going to voice my discontent at this total BS. I'm so close to maxing out my jobs in this game and in a few months, just before I probably get my last pieces of gear it will all be just about worthless, thanks for nothing SE. I was going to stay and play after 14 is released but if I have to get grinding and leveling again... well I just don't have it in me to do that again.
You only have 5 75s. hardly the stand that the Maat cap owners are taking, even I'll listen to them whine.
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Ramuh.Tousou
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-02-28 15:34:20
Bahamut.Kaioshin said: Don't like it? leave please! WoW and Guildwars are waiting for you.
Instead of touching the subject of "Our MMO is better than yours LAWL!" I think I'll just say this...
I enjoyed Guild Wars. Good storylines, free adjustment and customization of your character, pretty without excessive flashyness... Oh, and I could do things on my own if my friends weren't on. :3
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Since, due to the advice of the OP I stopped reading at the first sentence, I've got one question... What's the argument supporting the 75 cap?
"Too many people will have to go back and level QQ!"
Seriously, I'm curious if a valid argument can even be created at this stage. All we know is "Level cap 99." We don't know how anything's scaling, what's scaling, if it's scaling, the plethora of new gear/Job Abilities/Job Traits, etc...
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2010-02-28 15:36:14
Ramuh.Tousou said: Bahamut.Kaioshin said: Don't like it? leave please! WoW and Guildwars are waiting for you.
Instead of touching the subject of "Our MMO is better than yours LAWL!" I think I'll just say this...
I enjoyed Guild Wars. Good storylines, free adjustment and customization of your character, pretty without excessive flashyness... Oh, and I could do things on my own if my friends weren't on. :3
/ontopic
Since, due to the advice of the OP I stopped reading at the first sentence, I've got one question... What's the argument supporting the 75 cap?
"Too many people will have to go back and level QQ!"
Seriously, I'm curious if a valid argument can even be created at this stage. All we know is "Level cap 99." We don't know how anything's scaling, what's scaling, if it's scaling, the plethora of new gear/Job Abilities/Job Traits, etc...
QFT
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-02-28 15:37:09
I find it ironic that people who QQ about having to level up again say they're gonna quit for XIV where GUESS WHAT?!
You have to level up from the start there too! Hahahahaha.
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Bahamut.Kaioshin
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-02-28 15:37:40
Ramuh.Thunderz said: Ramuh.Tousou said: Bahamut.Kaioshin said: Don't like it? leave please! WoW and Guildwars are waiting for you. Instead of touching the subject of "Our MMO is better than yours LAWL!" I think I'll just say this... I enjoyed Guild Wars. Good storylines, free adjustment and customization of your character, pretty without excessive flashyness... Oh, and I could do things on my own if my friends weren't on. :3 /ontopic Since, due to the advice of the OP I stopped reading at the first sentence, I've got one question... What's the argument supporting the 75 cap? "Too many people will have to go back and level QQ!" Seriously, I'm curious if a valid argument can even be created at this stage. All we know is "Level cap 99." We don't know how anything's scaling, what's scaling, if it's scaling, the plethora of new gear/Job Abilities/Job Traits, etc... QFT
Im a newfag whats QFT?
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2010-02-28 15:38:37
Asura.Artemicion said: I find it ironic that people who QQ about having to level up again say they're gonna quit for XIV where GUESS WHAT?!
You have to level up from the start there too! Hahahahaha.
hurhurhur indeed
QFT = Quote for Truth
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-02-28 15:38:59
Quoted For Truth
I say QQ more because it's going to happen whether you like it or not =P
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Bahamut.Kaioshin
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-02-28 15:40:14
Sweet now I'm an oldfag! /b/ here i come!
Leviathan.Hohenheim
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2010-02-28 15:44:06
Asura.Artemicion said: I find it ironic that people who QQ about having to level up again say they're gonna quit for XIV where GUESS WHAT?!
You have to level up from the start there too! Hahahahaha.
I think I'll just stop MMOs all together :/ Lifes catching up.
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Bahamut.Kaioshin
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-02-28 15:44:50
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: Asura.Artemicion said: I find it ironic that people who QQ about having to level up again say they're gonna quit for XIV where GUESS WHAT?! You have to level up from the start there too! Hahahahaha. I think I'll just stop MMOs all together :/ Lifes catching up.
The Gay bars are calling.
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone
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By Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone 2010-02-28 15:49:13
Ramuh.Thunderz said: I just had 2, cuz im bored.
Nice! lol
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone
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By Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone 2010-02-28 15:55:40
Hades.Zandra said: just before I probably get my last pieces of gear it will all be just about worthless, thanks for nothing SE.
How?
Just because I still full-time my Aristocrat's Coat, I'm gimp because it's a level 68 piece of gear? What level 75 body should I use so that I'm not gimp at 75?
People bitching about their gear being obsolete have no argument. It's still gonna work, and work well. Might be overshadowed by the new stuff, but I'm sure that most people will still want it.
I haven't heard of a good reason why increasing the cap is a bad thing. The "I'm too lazy to level to the next cap" isn't going to fly.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-02-28 15:57:54
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said: Hades.Zandra said: just before I probably get my last pieces of gear it will all be just about worthless, thanks for nothing SE.
How?
Just because I still full-time my Aristocrat's Coat, I'm gimp because it's a level 68 piece of gear? What level 75 body should I use so that I'm not gimp at 75?
People bitching about their gear being obsolete have no argument. It's still gonna work, and work well. Might be overshadowed by the new stuff, but I'm sure that most people will still want it.
I haven't heard of a good reason why increasing the cap is a bad thing. The "I'm too lazy to level to the next cap" isn't going to fly.
Anyone who uses AF feet on pld is gimp because it's level 52 omgwtfbbq
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Ramuh.Tousou
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-02-28 16:02:54
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said: Just because I still full-time my Aristocrat's Coat, I'm gimp because it's a level 68 piece of gear? What level 75 body should I use so that I'm not gimp at 75?
Brb... Selling the +1 Elemental Staves that I don't have to get a Kirin's Pole for nukes. :3
Bahamut.Kaioshin
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By Bahamut.Kaioshin 2010-02-28 16:08:26
Ramuh.Tousou said: Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said: Just because I still full-time my Aristocrat's Coat, I'm gimp because it's a level 68 piece of gear? What level 75 body should I use so that I'm not gimp at 75? Brb... Selling the 1 Elemental Staves that I don't have to get a Kirin's Pole for nukes. :3
This ^
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Bismarck.Taheenaa
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By Bismarck.Taheenaa 2010-02-28 16:09:23
Midgardsormr.Sammitch said: Asura.Korpg said: Here's the problem.
300 people are upset, so they voice their opinions about this.
The other 20000 people are happy about this, but it doesn't affect them enough to create "hate threads" or "love threads" because they are waiting to see.
You are only voicing 1 side of the argument because thats the side thats most vocal at this point. ^
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-02-28 16:12:07
Asura.Stubbs said: To all those people who feel they have nearly reached the end of the game and now claim they want to quit because that feeling of reaching the end has just been taken away from them, what the hell?
What was your plan going to be after reaching the end anyways, to pat yourself on the back for a job well done and quit? First you want to quit because you've "beat" the game and now you want to quit because you can't beat the game, do yourself a favor and quit because quitting it is inevitable. The entire point of an MMO is that it is a forever ongoing social experience. You can't win at everything in life so look for enjoyment in the challenges themselves, not the victories.
Some may have enjoyed their end-game niche and don't feel the new changes will be as much fun anymore. To them, I bid a humble farewell. They can always look to PXI in the future to bring back that experience.
Why has everyone been calling ffxi dead and saying that it won't be around any longer after ffxiv? Nobody knows what to expect from ffxiv yet and as far as anyone knows it could be a completely different beast. Some will prefer one and some will prefer the other. Last I checked people were still loyal to both EQ and EQ2, as well as Lineage and Lineage II. Circling back to a previous point, people are always looking for excuses to quit because they can't pull the plug themselves. If it's fun, play it. If not, don't.
Amen.
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Phoenix.Airbag
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-02-28 16:13:22
Hades.Zandra said: I'm with the OP, and I'm going to voice my discontent at this total BS. I'm so close to maxing out my jobs in this game and in a few months, just before I probably get my last pieces of gear it will all be just about worthless, thanks for nothing SE. I was going to stay and play after 14 is released but if I have to get grinding and leveling again... well I just don't have it in me to do that again.
AS IF THE TIME YOU SPENT PLAYIGN A MMO AMMOUNTED TO ANYTHING ANYWAYS
QQ MORE PEOPLE, I'M EXCITED AND I'LL BE DAMNED IF YOU *** THIS UP FOR EVERYONE ELSE
cause breathing life into an old boring game is always blasphemy and A WASTE OF MY TIME rite guise, *** off all you people who arent happy about this.. quit the game if its going to be so awful, I doubt you'll be missed
Leviathan.Hohenheim
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2010-02-28 16:19:12
Bahamut.Kaioshin said: Leviathan.Hohenheim said: Asura.Artemicion said: I find it ironic that people who QQ about having to level up again say they're gonna quit for XIV where GUESS WHAT?! You have to level up from the start there too! Hahahahaha. I think I'll just stop MMOs all together :/ Lifes catching up.
The Gay bars are calling.
Yeah I need a boyfriend :/
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Hades.Zandra
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By Hades.Zandra 2010-02-28 16:23:22
Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said: Hades.Zandra said: just before I probably get my last pieces of gear it will all be just about worthless, thanks for nothing SE.
How?
The people who still play have built their characters up from the ground. They lead shells, and they have acquired a specific in game wealth. Having a few 75 jobs (let alone 15-20) means something in this game, a certain flexibility. By raising the lvl cap SE is going to confiscate that flexibility and make it worthless, so now everything everyone has worked so hard to for, is worthless.
This isn't like adding a new piece of gear, where to stay on top you need to get it. This is taking everything you've worked for and making it WORTHLESS. This is redesigning the whole game months before its effectively outdated.
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2010-02-28 16:30:57
Hades.Zandra said: Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said: Hades.Zandra said: just before I probably get my last pieces of gear it will all be just about worthless, thanks for nothing SE.
How?
The people who still play have built their characters up from the ground. They lead shells, and they have acquired a specific in game wealth. Having a few 75 jobs (let alone 15-20) means something in this game, a certain flexibility. By raising the lvl cap SE is going to confiscate that flexibility and make it worthless, so now everything everyone has worked so hard to for, is worthless.
This isn't like adding a new piece of gear, where to stay on top you need to get it. This is taking everything you've worked for and making it WORTHLESS. This is redesigning the whole game months before its effectively outdated.
Sense. This post has none
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By Asura.Calatilla 2010-02-28 16:32:10
I wonder if ppl had this argument when they increased the original level cap
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By Asura.Artemicion 2010-02-28 16:32:55
Hades.Zandra said: Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said: Hades.Zandra said: just before I probably get my last pieces of gear it will all be just about worthless, thanks for nothing SE.
How?
The people who still play have built their characters up from the ground. They lead shells, and they have acquired a specific in game wealth. Having a few 75 jobs (let alone 15-20) means something in this game, a certain flexibility. By raising the lvl cap SE is going to confiscate that flexibility and make it worthless, so now everything everyone has worked so hard to for, is worthless.
This isn't like adding a new piece of gear, where to stay on top you need to get it. This is taking everything you've worked for and making it WORTHLESS. This is redesigning the whole game months before its effectively outdated.
If this means so much to you then why the *** did you start up an MMO in the first place? Increased limitations and gear are the nature of such games.
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Sylph.Oddin
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By Sylph.Oddin 2010-02-28 16:37:01
The amount of stupidity coming from this thread is seriously mind boggling. Nothing is *** obsolete. Yet. Until you see something that blows your gear out of the water, shut the *** up about it.
Seriously, think about it. Haubergeon is 16 levels lower than the current cap and is still hailed as one of the best TPing bodies for the jobs that can use it. People use level 33 PCCs at 75 still OR level 60 Chiv chains. Level 50 Swift belts still being used on just about every DD job that doesn't own a speed/v belt.
You people are over-reacting way too much. Yes there will be new gear coming however until you actually see this gear, you can't say anything is *** obsolete.
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By Remora.Thiefninja 2010-02-28 16:39:20
Hades.Zandra said: Quetzalcoatl.Terribleone said: Hades.Zandra said: just before I probably get my last pieces of gear it will all be just about worthless, thanks for nothing SE. How? The people who still play have built their characters up from the ground. They lead shells, and they have acquired a specific in game wealth. Having a few 75 jobs (let alone 15-20) means something in this game, a certain flexibility. By raising the lvl cap SE is going to confiscate that flexibility and make it worthless, so now everything everyone has worked so hard to for, is worthless. This isn't like adding a new piece of gear, where to stay on top you need to get it. This is taking everything you've worked for and making it WORTHLESS. This is redesigning the whole game months before its effectively outdated.
i will personally call this post fail. and from someone with 20x75 you cant say its because this update doesnt effect me. so quit crying over this crap and get over it. honestly who cares if they increase the cap. if you dont want to lvl then dont and stay at 75.
and wtf? when they added merits i didnt see you crying "omg now there are going to be ppl better than me because they can max out thier merits and i cant, why would SE make me lvl again!?! why didnt they just add another hard nm for me to cry over because we cant kill it at our current lvl"
anyways that was fun :D
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I'm going to start out by stating that if you don't like this idea, then don't even bother reading past what I have to say, and don't bother flaming me either. I'm merely making a suggestion and possibly solving this upcoming issue.
Judging by the 12,000+ views at this point on the "Level cap 99" topic, as well as the negative feedback in post replies, we can all assume that everyone is about as equally upset with this issue as the next. This is unquestionably one of the lowest things that Square Enix could do at this point.
So how do you fix it? Well, sitting on ffxiah.com forums and complaining with 300 other people is not going to solve your issue, I assure it. Square Enix employees are not paid to read these forums. However, they ARE paid to read the feedback. Now, I know this seems silly. Why would they read your feedback? Why would it matter to them at this point? XIV is coming out soon, why should I bother? Well, if you have any respect for this game, or the amount of time that you've put in to this game, perfecting your characters, testing out strategies, or parsing out numbers to find what's best in what situation, then you'd take 10 minutes out of your busy schedule and write a letter of feedback to Square Enix.
http://support.na.square-enix.com/contacttop.php?id=20&la=1
The link above is the North American link to the "Contact Us" page on playonline.com. If you don't trust copy-pasting this into your browser, you can find the same page by going to playonline.com > Service and Support > Contact (It's on the upper-right hand corner of the page) > Feedback.
There are a number of things to remember when writing constructive feedback. I think I speak for everyone when I say that it's not every day that I leave feedback to anything. Here's a few tips on how to get your voice heard, while remaining respectful, and courteous in your feedback:
*Be assertive, but don't be rude. Square Enix does not want to hear ugly remarks.
*Get to the point. Don't make a wall of text for them to read. State what you have to say, and send it.
*Make your statement clear and bold. Make sure that they know what you are saying.
*Make sure that they understand that you mean BUSINESS. If you think that what you say may not be enough, tell them that this sort of behavior is not something that you want to see in future FF games.
Perhaps if the 12,000 people who viewed the "Level cap 99" topic are to submit a feedback, stating that they do not like the idea, they may just revoke it. While you may think that the feedback thing is a joke, it's not. Believe it or not, Square Enix employees are paid to do their job, so they will see what you have to say. It even says in a subtitle: "While we value your feedback and review each submission, we do not provide responses to these types of contacts. Thank you for your submission." You don't need a reply, just make sure that you send something.
When they see a healthy amount of dislike on this, they may just change their mind. ;)
Again, thank you all who actually do this. And to those who are about to flame me in a post, grow up, please.
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