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 Lakshmi.Holman
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By Lakshmi.Holman 2010-03-10 12:53:58  
They have to give us at least 1 haste piece.

This is What I'm thinking.

Head: Att or high/jump effect stat

body: Maybee acc/Wyvern hp

Hands: Haste+4 would be nice/Icrease Wyverns breath

Legs: Toss up for me lol

Feet:Most likely some dex.
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By Siren.Riotus 2010-03-10 13:06:47  
to early to speculate....i agree tho, give drg some usefull relic instead of 1 piece u gotta macro in once or twice during a pt. Same with most Melee relic...give them something they can wear and be proud of dammit!
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By Garuda.Hypnotizd 2010-03-10 13:13:26  
Siren.Riotus said:
Same with all jobs relic...give them something they can wear and be proud of dammit!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-03-10 13:23:35  
Lakshmi.Holman said:
They have to give us at least 1 haste piece.

This is What I'm thinking.

Head: Att or high/jump effect stat

body: Maybee acc/Wyvern hp

Hands: Haste 4 would be nice/Icrease Wyverns breath

Legs: Toss up for me lol

Feet:Most likely some dex.


you have ONE haste piece
Wym. Mail +1
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By Unicorn.Fosgate 2010-03-10 13:45:31  
I would LOVE a peice that "Enhances Spirit Link" so we could heal our wyverns without losing any HP. Mages always hate when you spirit link. This would be a perfect addition for AF3.
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By Tuv 2010-03-10 13:55:05  
Unicorn.Fosgate said:
I would LOVE a peice that "Enhances Spirit Link" so we could heal our wyverns without losing any HP. Mages always hate when you spirit link. This would be a perfect addition for AF3.

Funny story, my spirit link broke on night when i was doing Nyzul Isle. My Spirit Link didnt take any of my HP off and healed Azure for around 450hp. I took full advantage of that and used it at all chances. Shame it went back to normal after that xD
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-03-10 14:06:40  
Might have been Stoneskin if you had a Scholar with you or a White Mage's Stoneskin from heals. I actually like that Spirit Link takes HP, useful in Campaign or solo when you have just enough hp that a Spirit Link will put you in orange for HB.
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By Ragnarok.Darkifrit 2010-03-24 05:23:14  
Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn said:
Lakshmi.Holman said:
They have to give us at least 1 haste piece.

This is What I'm thinking.

Head: Att or high/jump effect stat

body: Maybee acc/Wyvern hp

Hands: Haste 4 would be nice/Icrease Wyverns breath

Legs: Toss up for me lol

Feet:Most likely some dex.


you have ONE haste piece
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gl for make it :P
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-03-24 05:35:48  
So like, AF3 has been confirmed?
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By Lakshmi.Holman 2010-03-25 11:05:41  
Odin.Blazza said:
So like, AF3 has been confirmed?
Not yet, but I'm playing it by ear.
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By Siren.Riotus 2010-05-10 02:22:43  
Yeah it has, you get it from Abyssea
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By Alexander.Hasiano 2010-05-10 02:42:44  
Unicorn.Fosgate said:
I would LOVE a peice that "Enhances Spirit Link" so we could heal our wyverns without losing any HP. Mages always hate when you spirit link. This would be a perfect addition for AF3.

stoneskin reduces the amount of HP taken when using spirit link, i use it myself sometimes when i'm in cape terrigan when theres undead about to avoid blood aggro
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By Ragnarok.Lawsonofabiotch 2010-05-10 23:22:56  
I wouldn't want haste on the hands, eventhough +4 would be nice. Would really like a new kickass body with haste, just cause Nyzule hates me and I will never get Askar.....
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-10 23:32:49  
Ragnarok.Lawsonofabiotch said:
I wouldn't want haste on the hands, eventhough 4 would be nice. Would really like a new kickass body with haste, just cause Nyzule hates me and I will never get Askar.....
Wym. Mail +1
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By Odin.Moondaddy 2010-05-10 23:38:45  


um we do have gear that enhances spirit link >.>
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By Ragnarok.Lawsonofabiotch 2010-05-11 00:01:44  
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Ragnarok.Lawsonofabiotch said:
I wouldn't want haste on the hands, eventhough 4 would be nice. Would really like a new kickass body with haste, just cause Nyzule hates me and I will never get Askar.....
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Yeah, but no other DD stats to speak of really on that body ><
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-11 00:07:15  
Your point?
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-05-11 00:08:55  
Not like you WS in it anyway
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By Siren.Katy 2010-05-15 16:03:48  
They need to let our wyvrens be able to equipt armor just like pup D:
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-05-15 16:25:03  
Ragnarok.Lawsonofabiotch said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Ragnarok.Lawsonofabiotch said:
I wouldn't want haste on the hands, eventhough 4 would be nice. Would really like a new kickass body with haste, just cause Nyzule hates me and I will never get Askar.....
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Yeah, but no other DD stats to speak of really on that body ><


actually the SJ job traits passing over to wyvern is atleast something... /war would give your wyvern double attack, and /sam would give it some nice store TP..so in a way that haste body does have some other DD stats (not like it needs it..come on..its a haste body... lol
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-15 16:30:12  
Only have to wear it when you use Call Wyvern for the traits to transfer, so I guess you could say that doesn't count. Nonetheless, I agree... would have been nice if it had been more than 2% as DRG can't cap gear haste even with AF2+1 body, but it's still a fantastic piece.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-05-15 16:31:38  
i dont know of any other melee that get an actual haste body armor (other than goliard saio for pup, or if you count set haste for those jobs)...so even without the pet buffs its nice to TP in for sure if you dont need acc, and being drg with 2x accuracy bonus traits, its easy to get high/capped acc without a homam body or anything of the like
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-15 16:37:39  
Rapparee Harness says 'sup. So does Nashira Manteel for BLU, but most of the time you'd be better off TPing in Mirage/Morrigan's.
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By Asura.Karbuncle 2010-05-15 16:37:43  
THF and DNC get Raparee Harness, BLU Gets Nashira Body
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By Shiva.Daimos 2010-05-15 16:41:16  
I've been wondering myself if the 2% on Wyrm+1 is even worth wearing, mostly because I've never seen anyone ever wear it.
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By Shiva.Superdan 2010-05-15 16:51:56  
Siren.Katy said:
They need to let our wyvrens be able to equipt armor just like pup D:

I agree! A harpoon on it's head and shiny spiky armor <.<
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-15 16:53:21  
Napkin maths incoming!

Before Rose Strap, it basically wasn't viable as you lost your 6-hit unless you were popping Carbonara or had VFork. With Rose Strap, you can maintain your 6-hit with Wyrm +1 but you're giving up 4% DA, 5 STR, and 12 attack (Askar + Pole) assuming you're not sacrificing hitrate (at which point Aurum/Pole basically won by default). 4% DA is 109/105=3.8% to your non-Jump-based DPS, 5 STR ~0.5%, and the attack another ~1.33%. That totals up to ~5.63%... 2% haste is only going to match that in high-haste situations. If you don't have at least 63% haste before Wyrm +1, Askar + Pole > Wyrm +1 + Rose. Figure with Vfork is a bit lower since your base DA is a bit higher.

Of course, now we have Bradamante, which devalues DA... and it also allows Wyrm +1 to be used without Rose Strap. Wyrm +1 will overtake Askar/Aurum at a much lower level of haste if you're using the OAT polearm.

EDIT for posterity: I didn't include the effect of TP overflow from DA , which would allow Wyrm +1/Rose to overtake Askar/Pole a bit sooner. Not so soon that it really changes when you'd use it though.
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By Asura.Matakuko 2010-05-15 17:01:35  
Just let a wyverns color change based on choice of subjob and call it a day.
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By Hades.Stefanos 2010-05-15 17:02:11  
@ Daimos:

It's my understanding that the -1 body is a rare drop, or so I'm told. That could explain not seeing it that much.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-05-15 17:02:32  
Hades.Stefanos said:
@ Daimos:

It's my understanding that the -1 body is a rare drop, or so I'm told. That could explain not seeing it that much.
This is the other reason you don't see it much, yes >_<;
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