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Denali Bonnet or Wally Turban
サーバ: Fairy
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3615
By Fairy.Vegetto 2010-03-26 11:32:02
Leviathan.Niniann said: I wish I could've been Kay. ; -; I might go change it back to Remora.Ninian, hate the n ; ; I shall refer to you as Kay from now on! You are Kay in my mind!
Carbuncle.Kyhira
サーバ: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 128
By Carbuncle.Kyhira 2010-03-26 11:33:26
You can twist and turn stuff around all day. Turban is basically free, as free as anything get in this game. If you want to get really technical, denali isnt 'free' either, because the time you took to climb/get gear you could have made gil. So basically by climbing nyzul or spamming bosses to get denali you lost gil by not farming.
And even if you want to argue that turban cost 200-300k, would that mean you wont buy a hauby for your war/sam/drk/??? either because its not free?
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 395
By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-03-26 12:13:05
Opportunity cost argument is ***. Anyone can farm up that ISP with a proper goal in mind.
Excuses are like ***, everyone's got one, and Keriam's smells like ***. Just another one of the Sylphites that seems to really not "care" about how they play. And lord, have I seen a ***ton of those since I got here.
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15065
By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-03-26 12:13:13
Carbuncle.Kyhira said: You can twist and turn stuff around all day. Turban is basically free, as free as anything get in this game. If you want to get really technical, denali isnt 'free' either, because the time you took to climb/get gear you could have made gil. So basically by climbing nyzul or spamming bosses to get denali you lost gil by not farming.
And even if you want to argue that turban cost 200-300k, would that mean you wont buy a hauby for your war/sam/drk/??? either because its not free?
Leviathan.Niniann
サーバ: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2596
By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-03-26 12:18:06
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Carbuncle.Kyhira said: You can twist and turn stuff around all day. Turban is basically free, as free as anything get in this game. If you want to get really technical, denali isnt 'free' either, because the time you took to climb/get gear you could have made gil. So basically by climbing nyzul or spamming bosses to get denali you lost gil by not farming.
And even if you want to argue that turban cost 200-300k, would that mean you wont buy a hauby for your war/sam/drk/??? either because its not free?
lol'd hard at your avatar
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 395
By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-03-26 12:18:32
Almost fell out of my chair. XD
サーバ: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 160
By Odin.Spccdog 2010-03-26 12:19:05
wala turban beats denali unless your over the haste cap
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15065
By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-03-26 12:19:31
Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Carbuncle.Kyhira said: You can twist and turn stuff around all day. Turban is basically free, as free as anything get in this game. If you want to get really technical, denali isnt 'free' either, because the time you took to climb/get gear you could have made gil. So basically by climbing nyzul or spamming bosses to get denali you lost gil by not farming.
And even if you want to argue that turban cost 200-300k, would that mean you wont buy a hauby for your war/sam/drk/??? either because its not free?
lol'd hard at your avatar Are you making fun of my child? She's beautiful
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Leviathan.Niniann
サーバ: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2596
By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-03-26 12:21:42
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Carbuncle.Kyhira said: You can twist and turn stuff around all day. Turban is basically free, as free as anything get in this game. If you want to get really technical, denali isnt 'free' either, because the time you took to climb/get gear you could have made gil. So basically by climbing nyzul or spamming bosses to get denali you lost gil by not farming.
And even if you want to argue that turban cost 200-300k, would that mean you wont buy a hauby for your war/sam/drk/??? either because its not free?
lol'd hard at your avatar Are you making fun of my child? She's beautiful
Oh no, I'd never! She's quite lovely!
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15065
By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-03-26 12:22:29
Why thank you. She wears a Turban, and it's not the most stylish, but she's still beautiful and has 1% more haste than loldenalifags
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Caitsith.Neonracer
サーバ: Caitsith
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2748
By Caitsith.Neonracer 2010-03-26 12:23:37
Midgardsormr.Frobeus said: Sylph.Vincentius said: For casting - Turban.
For higher haste situations - Turban.
For soloing and you need the evasion - Optical Hat.
Bonnet's really not that great except on a mannequin.
Actually Bonnet is great for Light/Dark Shot and for TA.
If that's it for my thief, I won't even bother using it.
Wally Mart FTW!<--- at least its acheiveable , very easy to get.
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 395
By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-03-26 12:23:41
LAAAAAAAAWL.
(Lawl'n at Tiger btw.)
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 395
By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-03-26 14:00:49
Sylph.Keriam said: Quote: Excuses are like ***, everyone's got one, and Keriam's smells like ***. Just another one of the Sylphites that seems to really not "care" about how they play. And lord, have I seen a ***ton of those since I got here.
Well, aren't you elegant? Do you kiss your mom with that mouth? Wait, I guess you do a lot more to your mom with that mouth.
Mom jokes? Aren't you cute. Since we're in the neighborhood, maybe you should go yell at yours for dropping you on the head one too few times. One more, and this conversation might have been a lot more peaceful without your stupidity.
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4554
By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-03-26 14:06:27
Quote: There's not some line between Haste +4% and Haste +5% that makes someone a bad player. Saying otherwise just proves how much of an idiot you are.
No, but the conscious decision to choose 4% Haste instead of 5% Haste given the option of both is a trait of a bad player.
Would you consider a SAM using a Courage Ring over a Ruby Ring a good player? It's barely going to change anything but he's still deliberately worsening himself.
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 395
By Sylph.Vincentius 2010-03-26 14:06:36
Sylph.Keriam said: Sylph.Vincentius said: Aren't you cute.
You're hitting on me, aren't you? <3
[ ] ***
[ ] GTFO
Choose wisely.
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Game: FFXI
Posts: 15065
By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-03 13:09:45
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Dear Bawlzy (in mouth), of Asura. You, sir, don't know ***.
First of all, Poupee wasn't doing ***to you and you have the nerve to come out the cut with that *** about dnc. Let me tell you now, dnc is a great job if you disagree you're wrong.
I'd mention haste samba and it's goodness, but since you seem to love your denali bonnet so much, I know you do not understand the values of haste nor the game mechanics.
Moving on, let's look at your Vbelt, which is wasted on a player such as yourself. In case anyone did not read all four screen shots "i have a Velocious belt anyway, so it doesnt matter" Did you not know that haste is an exponential value? The more you have the better it gets. Vbelt would be MORE of a reason to use turban over denali as compared to if you were sporting a swift belt.
Sorry about your luck, but agi, defense, ect, contributes nothing to your damage and 3 attack doesn't come close to 1% haste. Perhaps you're the one who fails at life. It's more likely than not since you feel the need to pick on a girl for her choice in job, go on about how denali is better and that she fails at life, all while using the grammatical prowess of a five year old.
Would you like an example of the grammatical prowess I speak of? Quote: your gear is stupid , your stupid I love the irony here. You say someone fails at life, but what about you? You don't even know the difference between "your" and "you're".
Did you make this sign?
Not only do you fail at ffxi (lulzdenali), but also at life(lulzgrammar).
Here, this may help you become less of a burden to society.
http://www.english-zone.com/verbs/your1.html
サーバ: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1650
By Asura.Elvaton 2010-04-03 13:16:00
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
this guy is such a tool thumbs up to you veg and popo
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サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15065
By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-03 13:19:03
Make sure his *** *** reads this, too.
サーバ: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4554
By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-04-03 13:23:06
Quote: Girls suck at ffxi and at life
Someone has resentment issues...
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サーバ: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 14
By Ifrit.Ibreakthings 2010-04-03 13:39:50
90% of girls do suck at ffxi... dont live in denial to please some dorks on a forum
and as far as which is better Walahra is better if your not taking dmg/tanking
denali bonnest has only 1% less haste, but has
21DEF
4 agi
3eva
3 attack
all of which walahra does not, choose walahra over bonnet when your farming or doing anything where youll be tanking is just stupid and makes no sense
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サーバ: Ifrit
Game: FFXI
Posts: 14
By Ifrit.Ibreakthings 2010-04-03 13:41:44
and tigerwoods the only *** *** here is you
crying and whining like a little punk
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Sylph.Kozuki
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 223
By Sylph.Kozuki 2010-04-03 13:42:13
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サーバ: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 10387
By Siren.Enternius 2010-04-03 13:42:37
90% of everyone sucks at FFXI, I think. Ifrit.Ibreakthings included.
サーバ: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 15065
By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-04-03 13:45:58
If you need evasion use Ohat, if you need haste use turban. He's still a moron. Especially since he indicated he doesn't even understand anything about haste with the "I have a vbelt so it doesn't matter comment"
Yes, there are situations where Denali would be better than turban, BUT in those situations, ohat would be better than denali, so you still shouldn't be using denali.
You don't have any clue what you're talking about, sorry.
Bismarck.Rinako
サーバ: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1193
By Bismarck.Rinako 2010-04-03 13:46:12
arguing over 1% haste is like arguing over HQ over NQ come on, obviously haste+1 is better then haste-1. No matter how you look at it. If you don't want to wear turban then don't no ones gonna stay much to you besides "you don't have turban?" if someone really gets that anal about you not wearing turban over denali then they really need to go exp with someone else. Or find better friends.
No matter how much you want to argue Denali doesn't win over turban when it comes to TP or very much for that matter.
But if you don't want to wear turban then don't. the OP wanted to know which is better and we answered which is better. Constantly justifying how turban isn't better for TA, and other situations isn't gonna change that turban > denali for TP.
If you want the best TP set then Turban, if you don't want to wear it then don't. you'll just not match up to others that do wear it. If you're happy with that then that's all on you.
OK, i just got Denali Bonnet and i was curious which is better for DNC in a solo/duo/trio situation, and why
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