December Update - DNC

Yeah, took almost 2 weeks for them to add it lol, and lets not forget, our AF3 feet comes from a zone with EIGHT other jobs (SMN/NIN/SAM/DRG/PUP/COR/BLU/SCH) lol

I remember looking all over for the tiara for hours -_-

Watch as all DNCs level up to 90 and discover Regain Samba as an ability SE forgot to mention.

wouldn't regain jig make more sense?

Nah has to be samba because if you're only using it for yourself no one will want you in the party ><

some form of regain would be really nice to have. the VV atma is damned handy for that in abby, I keep wondering why I have 0 TP after running around in abby for a while. Regain Jig, or regain samba would be awesome.

Phurba Rare Exclusive
Dagger
DMG:44 Delay:190 Accuracy+10
"Waltz" potency +10%
Lv89 DNC

ok now will be fun to see peoples debatin to see wich daggers to use in party and why...lolz...

neato

Screw you guys, I'm using the Quadruple Attack dagger.

pretty easy really, if you haven't done Magian Weapons, I'd say main-hand Phurba and off-hand Auric if you have it

main hand phurba and off hand stp fusetto?

duh macro in the waltz dagger for cures...

noobs

lamo

anyone figure out striking flourish yet? i used it and i don't know what it even did

*edit* oooooh thats what it does

No that dagger doesn't make up for what you did with Curing Waltz III, SE -_-

Yeah, a whole lotta nothing lol

Burn 2 FM for a measly 1 double attack on mainhand
...SE was doing so good with DNC and now they're adding stupid crap that we will never use *coughwaltz5cough*

i actually expected more from cw5.....

I use it in abyssea when im not doing anything else with steps.
bumped my evis up by about 500 dmg with it on avg.


and yeah Yuna CW5 kinda... sucks.

Curing Waltz 3 = 72~3 tp/sec
Curing Waltz 5 = 54 tp/sec

orz.

Using Anwig Salade etc.

so cw3 still remains to be the best cw for constant use. but for standard use i've actually taken to use cw5, cheaper in the long run.


edit: also i heard there was a new atma that gives haste/dex and enmity+ (i wish i knew the name of it)

so with 3 atmas it would be VV (or GH depending on the occasion) + RR + this new atma?

5 seems neat for if you're DDing (maybe even soloing?) and want to toss out the occasional cure for whatever reason.

I don't know much about the new atma, don't see how a haste+ one would be all that useful unless it doesn't count towards gear haste, and even then it's only useful if you're not getting properly buffed.

When I see what the new stuff looks like I'll comment on this sometime. Slept through all the initial .dat mining and stuff. @_@;

well you have 2 options (i say 2 because i refuse to drop nusku for bullwhip, my prerogative...)

25 haste and 50 dw
or
18 haste and 55 dw

this is considering the dnc body could give 5 dw

a dnc with only haste hits 75% of the delay cap. with the 18haste55dw only 2 delay behind.

if dnc body gives 10 dw, you can get 77% with the 18haste60dw .9 delay slower.

if the atma (which i heard was major) gave 3-5 haste, thats pretty much the cap, and there would be no need for a brd in the same party, all things considering looking at dnc's point of view.


it shouldn't count to gear haste, seems better fitting to be magical haste.

Atma haste was tested to be gear haste previously, so unless that's changed with this update they are indeed garbage.

I'm currently working on a Masters in applied mathematics, and I've thought about this a lot, and crunched the numbers, and came to the following solution:

CWV = I don't die after getting hit by Thundaga IV and Turul is all pissed off at me and stuff for shoving a dagger in his face.
etc. etc.

Mind you, these calculations are all theoretical.

Isn't that what a WHM is for? Unless you're solo, in which case you're praying he doesn't eat your face for the next 21 seconds.

Yes.
Yes.
God would I have killed for a whm on that fight.

DNC RDM THF BST BST WAR loooooooooooooooooooooooooool

This was a fairly unimpressive update overall, across the board and for all jobs. Not nearly as revolutionary and game-breaking as the last update.

Striking Flourish < Circle JA of your choice
Curing Waltz V is what we expected. I cure over 1k in Abyssea with it, but the recast is atrocious.

Waltz +10% dagger looks cool. Too bad it wasn't Waltz Recast-10.

If the set bonus is non-linear, AF3+2 body would let us use a full set (20% gear Haste, +10% dw, 36.5% from magic, 10% from samba). If the set bonus is linear, then it isn't worth using. If you're solo, AF3+2 body is theoretically a good DD piece, but realistically you'll be using something like Aurore body for evasion so you waste time casting shadows less often.

AF3+1 hands supposedly add 13 TP to a 5 Finishing Reverse Flourish with full merits, so we can hope that AF3+2 hands will give us at least 100TP per Reverse Flourish. It wasn't hard to self-skillchain anyway, but this makes it a little easier to do (for instance) PK -> Reverse -> NFR -> Climactic -> Evisceration for a little boost.

Even if the full set bonus is only 5% I believe it would be worth using in most pt situations.

With marches+samba+haste + 20% gear haste (AF3+2, Goading) + 10% DW from gear (af3+2 body, charis neck) Delay reduction is about 79.9%

Losing marches, adding suppanomimi:
Samba+haste + 20% gear haste + 15% gear DW ~= 69.75% delay reduction
swapping AF3+2 body/hands for r.harness/a.gloves:
Samba+haste + 25% gear haste + 10% gear DW ~= 70% delay reduction

I assume the double damage procs (on my attacks alone) would make up for the minor loss in delay reduction.

Well, you could also swap the AF3+2 hands to Dusk +1, and Goading to Bullwhip, Twilight, Speed, or Velocious.

Samba + Haste + 25% gear Haste + 15% gear DW = 72.5% delay reduction, and whatever the 4/5 set bonus is.

Realistically though, BRD/WHM is the ideal duo partner. It can Sleepga, Elegy, pull, March/March or March/Mambo depending, status cure, and Haste. Then you don't need (or want) the Dual Wield on the AF3+2 body, and can swap it for Loki's Kaftan.

if you add auric it's 75% delay reduction. body is actually really hard to beat save loki. you could actually go the 18-19% haste (depending on your hands) and add nusku over bullwhip/twilight and use Atma of the Omnipotent as your third atma which you should generally anyways if only for the 50 dex and have 77% delay reduction.

brd is not the ideal partner compared to sch/whm (and shortly sch/rdm). reasons why i said this, i'll hold till later when im not busy/tired, but you should be able to figure it out.

Atma of the Omnipotent? What's the stats on that one again.

Oh yuna, I know you posted this in another thread but go check out Spry Vest Augments. I got a STP +4, Spell interruption rate down 1%, and Chr+2 augment on it. There still to be better augments on it though. So maybe your STP argument could still be valid ^^.