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It says "single wield THF" but if you kill first hit it deducts 1k gil as if DA was going to go off? (even though the attack never happens?) interesting.
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Went out and tried it on THF in Ronfarue single-wielding. My first 4 swings didn't consume gil. The 5th swing did. The 6th swing, I used Assassin's Charge and it didn't.
Um, how did anything in Ronfarue survive more than 1 hit?
(I believe your conclusion, i'm just a bit perplexed at this)
I presume the macro test dummies would consume the gil and be great for testing.
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For the love of all that is holy turn off the Window Effect setting I tried to once, but I'm classically conditioned for it to be like that, so it actually disturbs me to not have the window effect going :)
Where is the "-" button? The Thumbs Down option on Youtube if you didn't already :3
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Oh damn, not even requiring JP? What's that setup like? I imagine you'd need soulsoother/ve?
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It was quite low years ago, before gear creep and Master Levels. Taeon 3/5, Anwig Salade, Mpaca feet/JSE earring for automaton level+1, and Ohtas (cap Automaton attack speed). Or any combination of gear that stays ahead on health. 100jp/1200jp helps out, but not required.
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Is the barrier to PUP just spamming VD quite low?? All I'm seeing is full Taeon in mhaura lol
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By Jhoo on 2025-11-13 11:45:47
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up
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I'm guessing it would never be better than Temper 2 on RDM?
You'd just use both. Though the bigger loss there is you lose regal gem, but if that's not a concern no reason not to. T2 just puts your TA to round 37~%, still got the other 63%
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By on 2025-11-13 11:38:30
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By NynJa on 2025-11-13 11:31:49
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Just tested, WAR with 100% DA (69 in equip, 28 trait, 5% JP) was still getting billed 1k gil per swing.
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By on 2025-11-13 11:29:30
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By . on 2025-11-13 11:26:11
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Just got directed to updated forum rules when I tried to post.
Has that ever happened before? If yes for what?
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By NynJa on 2025-11-13 11:25:03
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From what I've read here so far, it seems like any DA will cost 1000 gil with enchantment up.
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I think it's been confirmed that if multi attack with higher priority procs it doesn't deduct gil but what If the enchantment is active but you also wear a bunch of regular double attack gear, does the -gil still proc every hit or does the game distinguish between enchantment and regular gear procs?
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well atleast 4 people stole them ammo at those prices
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By on 2025-11-13 11:00:54
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By . on 2025-11-13 10:59:33
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Ms Chatty just got angry with you
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By Genoxd on 2025-11-13 10:52:22
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Very impressive.....how you can play a galka when it takes up that much of you screen and is so ugly! Good job!
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By NynJa on 2025-11-13 10:48:07
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Should be pretty easy, and free, to test on thf with assassins charge.
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Overall, the ammo gets a 10/10 from me. It's exactly what I needed. It probably enhances multiple jobs more than Kraken Club enhances the few jobs that find it useful. However, I think it's not going to cost as much as Kraken Club because:
1. The drop rate is probably higher
2. There's a limited number of people on each server willing to gil toss for more DPS
3. People do AMAN BCs for other drops
The Enchantment also wears off if you zone, btw. It makes it more annoying to use when running around doing stuff like Silver Voucher NMs.
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By Rairin on 2025-11-13 10:42:06
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Since we're reasonably confident TA checks before DA, that'd make sense. It probably happens at the time DA is checked, rather than the time the attack is added.
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I think Hoxne Ampulla doesn't take your gil if TA procs? I was using it on MNK and seeing some -1k swings. One-shotting monsters still consumed 1k or 2k for me, though, so the extra swings don't have to land to be counted.
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By Fenrir. Niflheim on 2025-11-13 10:37:53
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Paged!

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By Fenrir. Niflheim on 2025-11-13 10:37:16
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Here, this kinda of determination would be mocked by everyone and their dog hate to shatter the illusion but a kid who goes to a spelling be would be mocked here too.
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1 KI Ongo because 3 KI makes me wanna puke. I’m not sure who the original author of this write up is but we used it and cleared Ongo multiple times using this approach.
Having spent considerable time doing Ongo v25 lately for alts and friends, I thought
I'd do a writeup to help struggling groups and clear up some misconceptions I've seen in
previous posts. The strategy uses a single KI, and has won with both MAB and MACC down
auras -- even in the same run, even below 40%. This fight is all about maximizing Gambit
and Rayke windows, so this strategy aims to do that.
Pre-pull:
RUN will be tanking this in 1h axe. After self-buffing, they can help to Shell 5 the party.
COR starts with wizards, then follows that up with crooked tacticians (you need to hit a 5,
9, 10, or 11 if COR/RUN are to extend every single skillchain.) Right after pull, you will
apply miser's roll to yourself and the RUN.
BRD pops Clarion Call and puts up 2 marches, an etude, and 2 ballads.
SCH needs to be conservative with strategems here. You should be pulling Ongo by 13 minutes on
the clock, meaning you have roughly 4 strategems at your disposal for buffing. Use those on
AOE Protect 5, AOE+Perp Regen 5, and to get into Addendum: Black. The other buffs to put up
are adloquium on the RUN and COR, Sandstorm 2 on the SCH and BLM, Klimaform, Animus Minuo
on the SCH, and Animus Augeo on the BRD.
Pull:
The goal is to hit 75% in 3 elongated skillchains (6 strategems.) This is roughly 10:30
on the encounter timer. If you're not hitting it there, more than likely gambit/rayke timings
aren't being maximized and/or earth shots aren't hitting the high value spells.
On pull, the BRD pops SV and Nitro, applies a strong Earth threnody to the boss, re-ups
previous buffs, then Tenuto's themself with 2x mambos and 3x minnes. Once buffs are good,
they can spam Lullabies/Tier 1 threnodies on the boss in an enmity set to try and build
enmity.
The RUN applies gambit exactly when Gravitation starts, then applies Rayke as soon as
possible afterwards while extending gravitations with Ruinator.
The COR applies Miser's roll to the COR+RUN while extending Ruinators with Wildfire, and
using Earth Shot on Stone 6's.
GEO runs Indi-INT + Blaze/EA Geo-Malaise + Entrust Acumen.
The SCH opens gravitation, applies a nice helix, and nukes liberally. During a typical
skillchain, you can land T5+T4+T3+T5+T2 off of the RUN's darkness and the COR's double darkness.
The BLM free-casts Stoneja to begin stacking the buff, bursts an Impact off of the first
Gravitation, then bursts as expected. Importantly, the BLM should free-nuke in between skillchains
and continue stacking the -ja buff.
75%:
BRD begins building enmity on the add.
SCH pops Tabula Rasa immediately and begins buffing:
Accession + Perpetuance Sandstorm 2
Perpetuance Adloquium RUN
Perpetuance Adloquium COR
Refresh Klimaform
Everyone runs into the RUN
Random deal
Accession + Perpetuance Embrava
Accession + Perpetuance Regen 5
Around this time the bird starts taking damage again, so it's time to Bolster, Rayke, Gambit, get
another nice Helix up, and start pushing to the lower 40%'s. Do not push it into its 2nd 2-hour yet.
Around the time Tabula Rasa is falling, Ongo should be in the mid-to-lower 40's. You will hold it there,
within a single skillchain of 40%, until Rayke is 45 seconds from coming back up.
The COR can use this waiting period as an opportunity to reapply the same 3 rolls.
With Rayke at 45s, use as few strategems as possible to push Ongo into its second Sforzo. A useful
strategem saver is True Strike - Immanence Noctohelix. Both the SCH and BLM should have TP due to
Tacticians.
40%:
Everyone except the RUN runs far enough away to SCH SP2 the adds onto the BRD. From that point foward,
the BRD will kite the adds away from the group. The BRD needs to find an oppotunity in the next ~1.5 minutes
to reapply a strong Earth Threnody II. If they got JA's back with the first random deal it can be done now.
If not, they need to do a drive-by during the upcoming Wild Card for JA's, and reapply it then.
After 30 seconds have elapsed and the group has reassembled 20+ yalms from Ongo, the BLM can pop SP2 and get
Burn up along with a new Impact. Be sure to reapply Burn with a couple seconds remaining on SP2.
With Gambit and Rayke off cooldown naturally, do 3 elongated skillchains, and be sure to apply a new Helix.
And the end of those skillchains, run in for Wild Card.
With Gambit and Rayke reset, do 3 more elongated skillchains.
And the end of those skillchains, run in for Random Deal.
With Gambit and/or Rayke reset, do 3 more elongated skillchains.
Ongo should be long dead at this point -- likely even before the last random deal. But if it's not and
Wild Card didn't reset any 2-hour abilities, you're likely out of gas. You can abuse True Strike into
Noctohelix to try and eek out a win, or come back and try to clean up execution. Any successful 2-hour
reset from the COR should be a free win, even under unfavorable auras, considering all of the things it
gives you back (more rayke/gambits, random deals, BLM SP2, Bolster, and Tabula Rasa.)
As far as auras go, we countered MAB down with Indi-Acumen, and MACC down can be ignored entirely. Your ability
to ignore MACC down depends entirely on the BRD sticking that buffed Threnody -- so keep an eye on that. Remember
to reapply Klimaform going into the final push if MACC down was your first aura, as it overwrites it.
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By . on 2025-11-13 10:33:05
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Idk, I feel like english speakers are way more picky with spelling and grammar than we have here.
Here, given overall population has poor education, we are way more lenient with grammar and speech in general.
It is funny seeing videos of americans having spelling contest for kids. Shows how much they care with proper english
Here, this kinda of determination would be mocked by everyone and their dog
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By Fenrir. Niflheim on 2025-11-13 10:31:33
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I bet you uncultured swine also call it "mij-ol-nyr" Mule near
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By . on 2025-11-13 10:29:18
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he probably truly believed what he said is how everybody thinks. I can't see any benefit for him to lie about this.
If someone post 10+ lines to justify something Im not reading it.
I will trust him by default
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By Carbuncle. Nynja on 2025-11-13 10:28:58
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I bet you uncultured swine also call it "mij-ol-nyr"
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By on 2025-11-13 10:14:01
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