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By Vannseraph on 2025-11-12 18:19:59
Can also confirm I got murky astral detritus gr. coffer from loud thud yesterday.
By LightningHelix on 2025-11-12 18:01:40
Bahamut.Navius said: »
Yes, I had to de-level each craft to grab the guild point items for the next. I don't think you need 110 for the titles, though- I believe it was only 90? But yes, I cycled around to collect the titles for each craft, ending on the craft that I intended to take all the way to 110 (bonecraft) and build a shield.
Correct, it's "88 and pass the test" to purchase the last title-giving item.

If you want to escutcheon, obviously you go to 110 there, so do it at the end to avoid having to double-level.

(If you want to goldsmithing escutcheon, you go to 98 leathercraft and buy the Signboard to get the Stall to get HQ tier 2 on Brass Jadagna +1 without having to worry about synthesis support... but you knew that already because an escutcheon is a big investment!)
By Goltana101 on 2025-11-12 18:00:18
There has been absolutely nothing to buy with gil for a very long time. It's an interesting item that finally gives you something you can do with it (literally pay-to-win). The people who are concerned about how much this item costs now likely aren't the target demographic this item was intended for, and probably won't ever be. I have serious doubts that many players would even understand how to even use it properly, as many players really don't minmax to that kind of degree, unless it becomes a meta thing. I've checked at least a half dozen Discord groups, and plenty of people are saying how it's not worth it. People really do not have a clue about it.

If you happen to get it from Trove, lucky you, enjoy it. Now, if you're worried about "how much" it will cost you per event, then the item's probably not for you and you should just sell it now before the price settles. The problem is, nobody really "knows" what it costs, so you will get some people who gouge it and others who will lowball, because of ignorance. And then others who will sit on it to "Wait and see" and then finally give in when they see more fake AH sales pile up.
By Chanti on 2025-11-12 17:44:30
What to know about the AI-generated country song topping Billboard's Country Digital Song Sales chart

The song has been streamed over 3 million times in under a month.


Quote:
Billboard has acknowledged Breaking Rust is an AI act and said it is one of at least six to chart in the past few months alone.

IDK about actual thinking but it seems AI can sing.
By phot0nic on 2025-11-12 17:40:47
Yes, I had to de-level each craft to grab the guild point items for the next. I don't think you need 110 for the titles, though- I believe it was only 90? But yes, I cycled around to collect the titles for each craft, ending on the craft that I intended to take all the way to 110 (bonecraft) and build a shield.
By Aspens on 2025-11-12 17:40:09
The sim is showing some crazy things, you wouldn't expect DA100% ammo to beat knob for mumei but it does. Even at 3k TP which heavily weighs the first hit.

And I guess it makes sense when napkin math for 76% WSD or 70% w/o knob: (11 * 1.76) < (11*1.7+1)

Yeah it doesn't add wsd to the extra hit, but 1.0 ftp adding to even single hit WS is significant. Even blocking zanshin it wins for samurai DPS in simulator, which is probably the job that benefits the least.

And the gil cost I just think of it like food. How much would you be willing to spend on food that gives 100% DA for an ody fight? 300k? 1mil? behemoth steak +1 are 400k-1mil each depending on server and they don't increase DPS close to the DPS this ammo gives. Repasts ~7mil.

To compare to another item that gives insane TP gain, I compared drg/dnc with kclub and drg/war with ampulla. The ampulla pulls ahead especially when kclub drops below 70% accuracy.

For an example sim comparing time to WS against Apex Bat (lvl 135 eva1224) and kept tp set to -30% PDT
time to WS went down 4% for ampulla VS kclub but WS damage went from 76470 90932 because of fencer.

Overall ampulla DPS was 17.5% higher than naegling/kclub offhand. This gap will grow as you fight mobs with higher and higher evasion

This thing is pretty wild
By Fenrir.Richybear on 2025-11-12 17:35:14
Fenrir.Niflheim said: »
also it is weird you spelled weeb wrong

Forgot the D at the start of it
By Hovann on 2025-11-12 17:28:56


Not exactly a AMAN Trove drop but Daily Gobbie Box can give these. 24 were inside when I opened it.
By Lews on 2025-11-12 17:26:02
No screen shots, did this yesterday had ITG with 3 characters in the area so it could have theoretically been a thud (no loud thuds) and I had the itg item on all 3 characters but not sure what it could be. With windower is there a way to pull old log from a different instance?
By Excalibur.Anna Ruthven on 2025-11-12 17:22:09
Finally went a tried on new shoes, Hokas, this is the first day in almost 4 years I've come home from work without severe foot pain.

They look goofy as ***but they're comfy.
By noodlespoon on 2025-11-12 17:20:27
(possibly dumb) question - if you skill up all crafts to veteran to buy the guild point items to get all those titles, are you left in a perpetual state of potentially de-leveling your 110 craft when you eventually go back to it?

Also is that something the ranks 9s among us did? I originally avoided it as it felt "unreasonable" from a game design point of view then when i hit 8 forgot about it, now i'm not 9 i'm ready for the grind :D
By . on 2025-11-12 17:12:29
Maybe it is bwae
By Shichishito on 2025-11-12 17:10:36
So what's a reasonable price to charge for mars/venus orbs now?
By Lews on 2025-11-12 17:10:32
Got an ITG on mars orb and received an Odium which was disappointing. These mars orb troll messages about being wrong are irritating, 3 of those so far on mars orbs.
By Perigueux on 2025-11-12 17:04:58
Torzak said: »
The Ammo

This is a very level headed take and I agree.

I’ve become very curious about this “adjusted drop rate” thesis after a new item launches. Might be true for Diablo Immortal: today’s XI to some degree, idk. The only large datasets I’m aware of are mobdb which lacks a time axis and Thorny’s BCNM runs for KC. Maybe comparatively there’s reviewing whatever the heck private server admins do from a behavioral aspect.

I’ll make an adjusted point of view though: I don’t think *takes a long drag from his cigarette* Tanaka’s lived perspective as expressed in his game design is the same as Fujito, the good choir boy. In other words, I don’t see the internal prestige ever being surpassed. I think that’s worth dwelling on more. Probably I’m overweight that than other takes. I think there will only ever be a single billion+ dollar item. But what do I know. It’s been 48 hours, 7 sitting on Baha’s AH, price ranging from 200M-900M. It’s definitely a curious situation. At 1B+ there’s only a dozen marginal buyers on any given server.

If the explicit dev goal is gil removal and/or current/future Master Trials victory, ~20M by 2027-28 as Sroda Ring is today, why not? Cool doll to play with though, that’s for sure.

By Shichishito on 2025-11-12 17:00:42
You shouldn't forget that this items primary purpose is to burn gil. It can't burn gil efficiently if only a hand full are in circulation.
By on 2025-11-12 16:28:28
By Goltana101 on 2025-11-12 16:25:06
Felgarr said: »
Also, I have a separate question for this pool. Which item came from LT vs ITG? Regal cuffs ITG, Volte Body LT?

That's my guess, based on previous findings. Omen drops (hands/bodies) were bumped to ITG (my mule got Udug Jacket on 1 chest opened, ITG), and Volte stuff stayed in LT.
By Asura.Vyre on 2025-11-12 16:15:33
Might have started to type Weaboo.
By Ranoutofspace on 2025-11-12 16:15:16
Bahamut.Navius said: »
1. My total ROEs are 1084, I assume this is still the cap.

2. I have. I've made a decent amount of +4 gear, and I've been grinding pretty heavily recently on the new accessories (earring mostly).

3. I believe there should be 1101 titles present in the .DAT files, but not all are obtainable (or are "virtually" unobtainable). Some have never been implemented in game, and some are unobtainable for other reasons (Ballista Royale, Matchmaker, Besieged, the 'other' crafting shields assuming you made one, etc.). By my count, I have 1077 titles, and I'd count 1080 as obtainable. To hit that, I'll need to clear the last two Master Trials and use the race change service to play a female character for a couple weeks (watch out Bahamut for sexy Mithra Nav). Some, like the Ballista chevron titles and the _____ Adventurer titles are difficult to check back on, but I intentionally tried to push using Guildwork to create some kind of checklist for myself.

4. Yes, I've been pretty active lately. I assume V25s in Ody, Sortie, and Limbus are all newer than the original Mastery Rank system, and I've made progress is all of that content.

Cheers! I've cleared Odyssey V25s/Sortie (though haven't dumped galli into a stage 5) so perhaps I just need to clear the new Limbus/Cloud of Darkness HTBF to be caught up then.
By phot0nic on 2025-11-12 15:54:59
Also, it's really hard to know what "counts" because SE hasn't given us a hard checklist. When it comes to titles that can't be easily re-obtained- do they "count"? Maybe there's an accounting of the _______ Adventurer titles server-side, but it's just not made visible to the player. As for Ballista chevron titles, these aren't easily re-obtained, but the Marshal NPC kind-of remembers your Ballista progress, so do these titles "count"?



(though for the job-specific chevrons, that could be 1+ of each job, or 26 warrior chevrons... it's unknown as to whether the game actually keeps track, regardless of what the player can see from the NPC)
By Vyrerus on 2025-11-12 15:51:51
Also I guess you could swap in Petrov and Sljor Ring if you wanted to keep Ammo swaps (smart), but you'd have to use HQ Gyudon in the non-Laphria set, always.
By Antisense on 2025-11-12 15:47:53
Still no one on Twitter with a screen crop of Knowledge Rank higher than 8 (and this is the set of players who cared enough to level it up + post on Twitter), so the currently unknown additional requirements for 9 and 10 are probably even more onerous due to this earring
By phot0nic on 2025-11-12 15:44:39
Ranoutofspace said: »
I've been out for over a year so just wanted to check up on a few things since I've been gone:

1. What's your total ROE objective cleared? (Is 1084 still the cap with a shield?)
2. Have you done a full clear for Limbus in both zones?
3. If my numbers are right, there are 1082 obtainable titles (1083 with Matchmaker) you're missing the Besieged BCNMs (3), new Master Trials (2), Matchmaker (1) (not sure how that works for gender swapping), but have all the other job specific Ballista titles? So you have 1076~1077 titles? I'm at 1039 with the biggest chunk being Ballista.
4. Is there any newer content that's been added that you've completed?

1. My total ROEs are 1084, I assume this is still the cap.

2. I have. I've made a decent amount of +4 gear, and I've been grinding pretty heavily recently on the new accessories (earring mostly).

3. I believe there should be 1101 titles present in the .DAT files, but not all are obtainable (or are "virtually" unobtainable). Some have never been implemented in game, and some are unobtainable for other reasons (Ballista Royale, Matchmaker, Besieged, the 'other' crafting shields assuming you made one, etc.). By my count, I have 1077 titles, and I'd count 1080 as obtainable. To hit that, I'll need to clear the last two Master Trials and use the race change service to play a female character for a couple weeks (watch out Bahamut for sexy Mithra Nav). Some, like the Ballista chevron titles and the _____ Adventurer titles are difficult to check back on, but I intentionally tried to push using Guildwork to create some kind of checklist for myself.

4. Yes, I've been pretty active lately. I assume V25s in Ody, Sortie, and Limbus are all newer than the original Mastery Rank system, and I've made progress is all of that content.
By Torzak on 2025-11-12 15:38:09
The Ammo
How much supply is there, and how much demand is there for it?

I hear a lot of people ask the question "Why would I pay 900million for an item that's going to take even more Gil just to use?" It's a logical assessment. And it's not an unfair one, considering opportunity cost.

There's also others that will take any advantage they can get at any price, and apply it as needed, knowing they don't have to use it for every fight, or even any fight that's on farm.

It's an interesting piece and you're not locked-in on ownership. It's not like paying for Crep Cloak and now you can't sell it if you change your mind. You can change your mind.

Its value on the AH can't really be compared on the merit of its dps increase or its rarity alone. It comes at a Gil cost just to use it.

The market will decide in time. Right now there's people still evaluating forum commentary, making an assessment of how rare it actually is (is it as rare as a Kraken?), etc.

We've never really had an item whose cost exceeded the moment of ownership in this manner before, so comparing it directly to something like o sash doesn't seem quite right.
By Vyrerus on 2025-11-12 15:18:39
@Darkvlade - Read.

K123 said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
K123 said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
Reach full 100% datk while also getting full (assumed)5% Empy Double Damage bonus on top of Crit damage bonus from feet.
Would this ever beat the PDL of Sakpata?

Why the boomerang when there is ammo with 3% DA?
Augmented the Antitail has 6 datk
You swapped it in the first set now.

Wot?
By phot0nic on 2025-11-12 15:17:23
I can confirm that the Hoxne earring gives +25 to all stats at Rank 9, suggesting that Rank 10 does (or will) exist. I'm hoping it's not obtainable yet and depends on future content. Or at the risk of someone from SE popping in here and getting ideas, watch the 'Master of All' title be a hard requirement for 10... it would be fitting.

By Crithix on 2025-11-12 15:14:46
Seems to be way more things that trove says than belligerent bang.

There are also differences in the punctuation at the end of the statement.

Not sure how to post a pic but my last Venus run started with. Thud "You feel like there's a huge sound left to be made...?" then
Thud "You feel like there's a huge sound left to be made." (punctuation changed)

Loud Thud and then no text. Next chest I was mimic food.

An earlier run had similar text but I am pretty sure that it started with different punctuation. However I did notice on that one that after a loud thud the text hints went away. That round I was able to get all the coffers open (not the mimic) and the terminal was also a loud thud, no rainbow chest but gold. So maybe when the text goes away that means that is the best you are going to get?

On another orb, a Venus I think, I got a messages saying something like you think there is an impossible to gage.. something remaining. I got this message several times but when I got down to 2 coffers + terminal remaining it gave me a different message saying something like "Apparently your hunch was wrong" and it was just a gold chest.

I did get an ITG Loud Thud yesterday on a Venus but that was a terminal plate /toss.

This morning on a mars I also got an ITG Loud Thud with at least 1 regular loud thud and this one gave me dark matter, Ra'Kaz. Saphire, dark matter, and the Hoxne Ampulla.

I do think that the words have more meaning this with trove now.
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