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Still no one on Twitter with a screen crop of Knowledge Rank higher than 8 (and this is the set of players who cared enough to level it up + post on Twitter), so the currently unknown additional requirements for 9 and 10 are probably even more onerous due to this earring
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I've been out for over a year so just wanted to check up on a few things since I've been gone:
1. What's your total ROE objective cleared? (Is 1084 still the cap with a shield?)
2. Have you done a full clear for Limbus in both zones?
3. If my numbers are right, there are 1082 obtainable titles (1083 with Matchmaker) you're missing the Besieged BCNMs (3), new Master Trials (2), Matchmaker (1) (not sure how that works for gender swapping), but have all the other job specific Ballista titles? So you have 1076~1077 titles? I'm at 1039 with the biggest chunk being Ballista.
4. Is there any newer content that's been added that you've completed?
1. My total ROEs are 1084, I assume this is still the cap.
2. I have. I've made a decent amount of +4 gear, and I've been grinding pretty heavily recently on the new accessories (earring mostly).
3. I believe there should be 1101 titles present in the .DAT files, but not all are obtainable (or are "virtually" unobtainable). Some have never been implemented in game, and some are unobtainable for other reasons (Ballista Royale, Matchmaker, Besieged, the 'other' crafting shields assuming you made one, etc.). By my count, I have 1077 titles, and I'd count 1080 as obtainable. To hit that, I'll need to clear the last two Master Trials and use the race change service to play a female character for a couple weeks (watch out Bahamut for sexy Mithra Nav). Some, like the Ballista chevron titles and the _____ Adventurer titles are difficult to check back on, but I intentionally tried to push using Guildwork to create some kind of checklist for myself.
4. Yes, I've been pretty active lately. I assume V25s in Ody, Sortie, and Limbus are all newer than the original Mastery Rank system, and I've made progress is all of that content.
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By Torzak on 2025-11-12 15:38:09
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The Ammo
How much supply is there, and how much demand is there for it?
I hear a lot of people ask the question "Why would I pay 900million for an item that's going to take even more Gil just to use?" It's a logical assessment. And it's not an unfair one, considering opportunity cost.
There's also others that will take any advantage they can get at any price, and apply it as needed, knowing they don't have to use it for every fight, or even any fight that's on farm.
It's an interesting piece and you're not locked-in on ownership. It's not like paying for Crep Cloak and now you can't sell it if you change your mind. You can change your mind.
Its value on the AH can't really be compared on the merit of its dps increase or its rarity alone. It comes at a Gil cost just to use it.
The market will decide in time. Right now there's people still evaluating forum commentary, making an assessment of how rare it actually is (is it as rare as a Kraken?), etc.
We've never really had an item whose cost exceeded the moment of ownership in this manner before, so comparing it directly to something like o sash doesn't seem quite right.
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@Darkvlade - Read.
Reach full 100% datk while also getting full (assumed)5% Empy Double Damage bonus on top of Crit damage bonus from feet. Would this ever beat the PDL of Sakpata?
Why the boomerang when there is ammo with 3% DA? Augmented the Antitail has 6 datk You swapped it in the first set now.
Wot?
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I can confirm that the Hoxne earring gives +25 to all stats at Rank 9, suggesting that Rank 10 does (or will) exist. I'm hoping it's not obtainable yet and depends on future content. Or at the risk of someone from SE popping in here and getting ideas, watch the 'Master of All' title be a hard requirement for 10... it would be fitting.

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Seems to be way more things that trove says than belligerent bang.
There are also differences in the punctuation at the end of the statement.
Not sure how to post a pic but my last Venus run started with. Thud "You feel like there's a huge sound left to be made...?" then
Thud "You feel like there's a huge sound left to be made." (punctuation changed)
Loud Thud and then no text. Next chest I was mimic food.
An earlier run had similar text but I am pretty sure that it started with different punctuation. However I did notice on that one that after a loud thud the text hints went away. That round I was able to get all the coffers open (not the mimic) and the terminal was also a loud thud, no rainbow chest but gold. So maybe when the text goes away that means that is the best you are going to get?
On another orb, a Venus I think, I got a messages saying something like you think there is an impossible to gage.. something remaining. I got this message several times but when I got down to 2 coffers + terminal remaining it gave me a different message saying something like "Apparently your hunch was wrong" and it was just a gold chest.
I did get an ITG Loud Thud yesterday on a Venus but that was a terminal plate /toss.
This morning on a mars I also got an ITG Loud Thud with at least 1 regular loud thud and this one gave me dark matter, Ra'Kaz. Saphire, dark matter, and the Hoxne Ampulla.
I do think that the words have more meaning this with trove now.
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By on 2025-11-12 15:07:53
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By on 2025-11-12 15:05:20
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By Kayte on 2025-11-12 14:58:41
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This thread's alive but chocobo racing isn't. If I want to change the stats on a capped-stat retired chocobo, can I do that with the items?
You can within a degree, and very inefficiently. As was mentioned, the 100 chocobuck trains will shift 2 points at a time, and you'll lose 2 stats from your highest stat. This means there's a limit of how far you can lower anything, and you can't really max two stats using them as you'll keep pulling it off the other one.
For the amount of chocobucks you'll need to make a huge shift of 50-100 points you might be able to raise an entirely new chocobo and conform it to the stats you want quicker, heh.
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By Taint on 2025-11-12 14:57:42
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Anything to target in Montrosity? I never really did it but it seems like it makes a solid impact for rank.
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By Kayte on 2025-11-12 14:53:05
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Right now there are 1101 titles in the game. I have always assumed that they only have one record of "the player got this title" and our best proxy for it is the title NPCs.
I think these are not selectable via title NPCs:
* N/A - just the zero-index title
* Matchmaker - not assigned to any Title NPC
* High Roller / Fortune's Favorite - Venture Roll or Chocobo races?
* Giant Killer / Overlord Executioner / Manifest Mauler / Adamantking Killer - Very old titles that were not implemented
* Fulmination Disrupter - Counts towards Mastery Rank when you're wearing it and is assigned to a title NPC, but is bugged and does not show up on title NPCs even if you have gotten it
* Champion of the Dawn - Another one that is assigned to a title NPC but doesn't show up on title NPCs even if you have gotten it
* Waking the Beast titles - One of the two is always inaccessible on title NPCs
* Insignificant/Irresponsible/Odorous/Random Adventurer titles are randomly given by title NPCs, but cannot be selected
So that's 1101 - 15 = 1086 possible on title NPCs.
I'm missing 74, mostly 80+ crafting items (eschuteons inc.), Ballista, and some Master Fights.
There's a few other ones that kind of don't count. The ballista chevron titles only make one available to you for any given time period while you have the KI, and once you return it they are removed back off the NPC as well. I consider them all as non-obtainable.
The MMM ones aren't off a title bard, but can be bought for marbles on demand assuming you meet the required maze clears. I'm not sure if the game "counts" these, but I'm thinking it might since it does change the price to only 1 marble after you buy it once.
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By Kayte on 2025-11-12 14:50:03
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Care to share the tracker?
holding out on me here, ship the full lua ;_;
(if nothing else I just bought all the runes for Marbles and would have loved better menuing)
I'm not sure how kosher the whole addon would be, but let me think about it. It basically enables //commands for the process of entering the mazes, descending, popping temp items (for resets), popping NMs, etc.
I didn't really add anything for buying runes since I had already obtained 100% long ago, but I did want to have a quick way to check current total since the game doesn't make it obvious. It shouldn't be that hard to split out that facet of it, I'll just need to copy out the relevant menuing and test it.
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By Eiryl on 2025-11-12 14:48:00
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It's a bit low, for previous standards. New stuff and maybe new calculation.
The lack of info before this update existed, now it's greater
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No worries, I appreciate the input. I think I'm definitely a bit short on DA and certainly miss the additional pet stats and attachment capacity from gifts. Last night I tried it with my group and real COR rolls and one attempt was a kill just in time and the other was about 7% short. Cath Pulag, Incarnation Sash or maybe a Taeon piece if the stones show up all seem beneficial to try to fit in. It's a real shame that Thurandaut +1 is 4% haste and not 5% haste though lol.
I think I might've found a different way to fix it in the meantime though too. If I swap the Soulsoother head to Sharpshot then I unfortunately have to downgrade to Mana Jammer 1+4 and ARK 3 however it means that Heady Artifice grants Mighty Strikes and the Heady Artifice JP effect grants +3% damage per rank. I tried it just now and very nearly had the kill in OD while still being only 19/20 OD effect and 0/20 HA effect. Downgrading attachments does require being more attentive with repair though but I think that might do the trick once I pick up a few more JP.
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Shijin > Tornado Kick x3 kills it. BRD COR RDM Sylvie as buffers.
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By enoch on 2025-11-12 14:43:46
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Adding some data points: after the update I'm at rank 8 with only 841 titles - which seems a bit low?
Things that might offset:
1072 RoE completed
99'd all Monstrosity species
buncha rema's
huge playtime, mostly afk
Think I might hit 850 titles after conquest tally when I can switch nations and spend a bunch of conquest points.
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So regardless of Subtle Blow, Monk wants PDL and Triple Attack in the WS sets, generally? Huh. WSD not as valuable?
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Reach full 100% datk while also getting full (assumed)5% Empy Double Damage bonus on top of Crit damage bonus from feet. Would this ever beat the PDL of Sakpata?
Why the boomerang when there is ammo with 3% DA? Augmented the Antitail has 6 datk
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I think it's still accurate.
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By on 2025-11-12 13:54:02
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By on 2025-11-12 13:50:52
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By Eiryl on 2025-11-12 13:35:45
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You don't take a whm to sortie, but anywhere else, yes
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By on 2025-11-12 13:34:19
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By NynJa on 2025-11-12 13:27:05
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I updated the trove drop list on wiki
I put murky and aggregate coffers under LT with verification tag, but if anyone has proof of them being from trove and what tier they are, pls fix.
It prob needs cleanup too, making and tidying wikis isnt in my skillset.
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By Anza on 2025-11-12 13:20:52
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I agree that people should play how they want to, just realize that optimizing old content is excessive beyond a certain point. Stand there waiting 30 seconds for extra buffs, so you can shave 35 seconds off the fight... right?
Who said anything about standing around waiting for 30 seconds to get extra buffs? All I suggested is that:
(1) it's a small bonus to Beast Roll to have a BST in party, so if you're bringing people to stand around solely for Gallantry maybe have one of them come BST (or call a BST trust if going without a 6/6 party, which you can do in a couple seconds)
(2) Bringing a RDM is helpful for Dia III and enfeebles. But that requires zero additional waiting.
But if you don't care about decreasing your win times, you do you!
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Can't even get anything other than a death on my orbs... What a time to be alive!
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I forgot xD
I was in aminon mode so I didn't even flinch, just threw up bubbles, attack was way over capped and everything did 99k with it doing nothing. So GEO does even less
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Vim Torque is cool for a swap piece to wake up, but full timing it is like begging to die.
A simple Regen from any mage counters it. I haven't "died" from it, and most modern fights you're engaged for a minute or so, not 15 minutes.
Also JSE +2 necklace lets you do stuff like this:
I was referring to base TP sets, not specialized ones. I didn't say JSE neck had no use at all.
I also don't know about using Antitail at all; don't you lose your overflow TP return every time you swap back into a ranged item? Since you'd be going from Non Throwing (Knobkierre) to throwing (Antitail +1)? Haven't tested it in a while but iirc it eats your tp every time you swap If you use Antitail, you give up Ammo swaps, yes.
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From yesterday, to today, I went down one rank. Are they adjusting it on the fly?
There are some things you can do that lower your rank. Known ones are:
1. Losing the Medal of Altana by changing allegiance in the shadowreign zones
2. Possibly switching title away from Fulmination Disrupter (VD Ramuh) Wanted to share my experience on losing Medal of Altana. It's not a guaranteed rank reduction (not saying you were implying it is, just confirming that it is possible to survive). I lost my Medal of Altana before the Mastery Rank changes this update, did not lose a rank at the time, and went up a rank upon the update.
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By Lutia on 2025-11-12 12:30:59
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