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Alternative thought to the 0/1. Maybe instead of getting the ???, its finding the mob that IS ITG instead.

I usually agree with you on just about everything, but be real here. It was mentioned in one month's version update 3 years ago and it's not commonly discussed. I think there are probably quite a few people who weren't aware it was possible, so the thread could be extremely helpful.

Wasn't that still on the roadmap as of last freshly picked or did they completely drop it? I thought it was still in the works.

Still wish they'd rework the jug system for BST...

Let's all chill out, and take this to PMs or somewhere else. Dev Tracker discussion has had enough of it, me thinks.

Eh? The new body only drops STP by 2 and the resist para the rest the other body is well ahead even acc/att when accounting for the STR and DEX increase.

I'm 0/Don't Ask on Gin, but if they made Omen bodies part of a Magian thing where you had to trade scales with the corresponding body to +1 it, well.....

Ageha shouldn't work on D/H unless it's in right mode afaik.

We don't bother splitting up for objectives. Mainly since I tri-box the SAM, BRD and COR and I don't have the ability to handle sending all my characters out to do different things simultaneously.
I don't really know if there's "particular gear" required that I can think of unless you count Godhands, S3+ Kusanagi, Idris, and S3+ Loughnashade which of course are all good to have.

ah interesting different per server

The enemy types are chosen randomly and are not consistent across servers, so this question can't be answered.

Thank you very much, sorry again do you have mnk sets.
Any particular gear needed for other jobs and do you split for shards/ any specific metal needed.
Sorry to bombard you wiht questions

For Apollyon on Ragnarok, it seems like Objective 4 is Undead kills, and Objective 5 is Demons.

For Temenos, the objective seems to be Elementals, not just pixies.

sorry if i missed it ~ any other finding here or can anyone confirm?

Apollyon:
x/150 Chests Opened
x/13 NMs Killed
x/1 ??? Found
x/100 Mob Type ???
x/100 Mob Type ???
x/100 Shadow Dragons Killed

Temenos:
x/150 Chests Opened
x/13 NMs Killed
x/1 ??? Found ... this is going to be hard
X/300 Unseelies (confirm?) Killed

There is only one person dedicated enough to track down Negan. His name is Billnes

Open all bosses with Dia III/Light Shot. Chi Blast/Ageha on everything except Thunder Gartell. March/Madrigal/Minuet/Aria for your general songs. RDM should be MLv10+ for Curaga III access. MLv30+ for Auspice is optional but helpful. GEO Fury Frailty on everything except F boss.
E: All on it. Sulpor Valiance.
SAM Jinpu, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Ruthless or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
F: Do after H so you have SV songs. Bolster Barrier, Frailty, Entrust Fury.
All on it. Gelus or Tellus Valiance depending on mode.
SAM Mumei, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Rudra or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
G: All on it. Lux Valiance. Frazzle.
SAM Kagero or Koki, MNK Tornado, COR Savage, BRD Ruthless or Savage, GEO Judgment or Black Halo.
H: SAM and MNK on it only. SV March/Madrigal/Minuetx2/Aria. Do F after to get both in with SV songs.
SAM Mumei/Fudo, MNK Tornado/Raging.

I think we do its just more of a pain in Temenos.

Its a random mob type, that must be killed over and over until the NM pops and the NM drops the ???. Plenty of reports of NMs being killed but not dropping the ???.

In Temenos everyone focuses on the quick easier mobs near the port which leaves entire types of mobs neglected more often that Apollyon.

I'm assuming we still have no idea how to reliably get the ??? in temenos, correct?

Damn- Negan hasn't posted in a while. Put up the Negan signal

I'm aware, but the SAM is outputting a lot of damage and often taking hate from the MNK from 100%>30% or so, so they can't stay out of range since they'll often be Aminon's target.

Making primes is a waste of time, but having over 3,000 posts in 2 years on a forum dedicated to a game one admittedly has played <30% of the time since 2011 is a great use of time, supposedly

I miss the time where we had another fine lad to appreciate a good AI muscular chad dog aside me.

Hope Negan Froggs is well, wherever you are.

Doubt it. It's probably the same thing as last time: people misunderstanding the graphic because the colors/design is awful.

My prediction:
Only the last 4 weeks' result affects the chest.
If you killed W1 only, you get a Brown/gold chest.
If you killed W2 also, you get the Red chest.
If you killed W3, you get the Gold chest.
In the picture, this is the green box "total defeated", and the green box "treasure chest upgrade"

Then 4 weeks later, the same thing is evaluated. This is the blue boxes in the graphic.

Then 4 weeks later, the same thing is evaluated. This is the red boxes in the graphic.

Limbus T2 NMs:

Everything moves at greatly enhanced movement speeds, but Bind lands on everything without issue by a geared RDM. Since they can all link with each other from across the entire zone, binding two and focusing one is the best way to handle them without an insane amount of deaths. A well-supported tank can also handle one in a corner if you can keep the other two off of them. Their auto attacks hit for 800-900 per hit regardless of defenses, and they use a TP move every ~15-20 seconds no matter how much TP they should have. Evasion tanking can still kind of work, but the threshold is much higher (RUN needed SV Mambos and Blind II to evade consistently) and they all have elemental attacks anyway. Shadow tanking with NIN might work better. If you focus one at a time, they'll fall pretty quickly if they're being properly tanked and the other two NMs are being held off. If the other two (or all three) are running around freely, you're going to die very quickly regardless of job or buffs.

Temenos:

Apollyon:

TL;DR Bind/tank two in a corner, kill the third, have Poison Potions/DoT gear ready for Wyrm. The hardest part by far is getting everything controlled without mass deaths. Not sure how feasible it's going to be to kill these NMs after the initial hype dies down, especially for lower pop servers...

Omega/Ultima require all 22 fomor NMs to die, 250 chest openings, and 2 ??? spawns. Time to finally figure out what exactly spawns Temenos' ??? I guess!

I was just a part of wave2 clear in Apollyon and I enjoyed it a lot. Required on the spot adaptation. There was initial chaos with the Wyrm. It flew in the air at 80% and started to kill everyone with Cyclone Wing. Mischief took it on the side and we focused on Dvergr, it was pretty easy, but Paralyze and Curse was annoying.

Vampyr was a problem when he was on the lose (Mischief bound it at start, but some JP guys hit it). Wings of Gehenna is a big problem if it hits many people including healers. Stun is very long. I haven't noticed Dread Spikes, but maybe we were lucky. It charmed someone I think and otherwise went down fast after it was properly tanked by PLD (Tappo).

Wyrm (Vrtra model) finally went back down and we were able to zerg it all the way without any more air time. Cyclone Wing was still annoying even with double carol.

I gave Mischief all the info I noticed during the fight, so maybe he will make some more detailed post later (he killed wave 2 Temenos too).

We've recently moved away from MNKx2 and started doing MNK SAM and I think it's a bit better. TP feed with 2 MNKs was a bit too risky on Aminon with our ~400 TP absorbs and I wanted to try something with a bit more breathing room so I figured I'd give SAM a try. Our Aminon kills are a little slower, but the rest of the bosses die a bit faster, however our MNK does not have a Hoxne Ampulla, so the addition of that would probably make MNK SAM as fast as MNKx2 if not faster (MNKx2 wouldn't be able to afford either MNK to use Ampulla). Our full setup is MNK/DRG SAM/RUN COR/DRK BRD/DRK GEO/DRK RDM/WHM. Ideally the MNK would be /RUN so the SAM could /DRK for extra Absorbs during Aminon (especially Hard Mode), but our MNK isn't comfortable trying it and unfortunately he's a close friend so I have to settle with him.

Unlike with MNKx2, with MNK SAM it's acceptable for the COR, BRD and GEO to contribute some WS damage while Penance is up and SAM's Meikyo Shisui is down, though keep in mind in our setup we only have 3 Absorbers, so backline will still have Caster's Roll as one of their rolls for 12s Abs-TP timers limiting how often they can WS, but it's fine. Aminon dies fast enough to 9 boss Normal Mode comfortably with a practiced group. COR BRD and GEO might want to avoid WSing entirely if your MNK has Ampulla.

On SAM I only WS through Meditate, Meikyo Shisui, Yaegasumi and Random Deal/Wild Card resets and avoid feeding TP through auto attacks. It's not uncommon for most people to just use Gearswap to WS while disengaged, but if you don't want to do that, I put together a TP set you could use to minimize the TP you'd feed while engaged. It focuses on low accuracy, low Haste, 50 Subtle Blow, and STP wherever else. I tried limiting it to gear that either one would already own or would be simple to get.
As far as my WS sets on SAM goes, while Penance is up I ignore any Subtle Blow in my WS set and just go for full damage. If Penance is down due to bad luck with Random Deals, I'll throw on 40 Subtle Blow & Mpaca's Hose on my WSs (Chirich x2, Peiste Belt +1, Bathy Choker +1). Our RDM also uses Auspice so that puts me up to 55 SB in my WSs while Penance is down. Once you're all out of Meditates and 1 hours, you *could* play it risky and TP on it with Hasso down which I did do on our 1 Hard Mode attempt with success, but I looked at Absorb logs after the run and noticed some 400+ Absorbs, so TP at your own risk. I used this set with /WHM Auspice for 50 Subtle Blow. Without Auspice you'll need to throw in 9 more SB somewhere. It has 22% Haste and 0 Multi-Attack to avoid excessive TP feed. Unfortunately all of SAM's Subtle Blow II options have TA or QA which is dangerous if it procs, so I settle for 50 SB with 0 multi-attack.
Aside from Aminon, the only other boss that I imagine people might have questions about is H boss. For him I TP in 70 Subtle Blow (capped SBI, Dagon, Niqmaddu, Mpaca Hose) and WS in the 55 Subtle Blow set I mentioned above. SAM alternates Mumei/Fudo and MNK alternates Tornado Kick/Raging Fists to avoid creating any SCs that will heal Aita. Open with Chi Blast. Aside from the forced TP move he'll do at the start, he shouldn't get another TP move off until under 20%. After which it's a simple reposition and Panacea if anyone was afflicted by a Fetter's DoT and finish him off.

I've been enjoying my time in Sortie tackling Aminon a different way from most groups and I hope maybe some other groups looking to spice things up (or just don't have anyone with DNC like our group) will give it a try.

yes, the materials and the NQ piece can come from gobbie box and has on quite a few servers