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By . on 2025-10-13 18:01:19
By Meeble on 2025-10-13 17:53:13
I don't mind EP loss as long I can point to the cause of death and fix it. The real frustration is for EP loss from deaths that feel unavoidable(skill issue or not). SE knows this, thus why AMAN Trove, Ambuscade, etc. have EP loss disabled.

Anyways - I'm ready for SE to turn off EP loss on Limbus NM's, already, please. Grace helps, Scherzo/Mambo/Darkblade helps, but some of those moves are still pure one-shot BS.
By on 2025-10-13 17:26:47
By Chanti on 2025-10-13 16:30:57
K123 said: »
In my mind I imagine Chanti is exactly Bernie Sanders irl.
I have more hair than that and I wear aviators.
By Garuda.Chanti on 2025-10-13 16:29:12
Asura.Eiryl said: »
They're not fall asleep boring but they do drag on, and that's even knowing they cut a ton of content that wouldve dragged more
The first movie has been described as the best and longest trailer ever.
By . on 2025-10-13 16:21:40
Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
Dodik said: »
Does that make me a bad nerd?
It very do.

And a stinking one
By NynJa on 2025-10-13 16:20:53
Lili said: »
This is being added to windower btw.

Lili said: »
Windover Dev has been merged to Live. All the updates are thus on Live and available to all users.

Do let us know about any problems by coming to windower's Discord.

Have fun!

Was this added with the update? I got blackout drunk and didnt get any matter from Limbus.
By Lili on 2025-10-13 16:06:53
Windover Dev has been merged to Live. All the updates are thus on Live and available to all users.

Do let us know about any problems by coming to windower's Discord.

Have fun!
By . on 2025-10-13 16:05:13
By . on 2025-10-13 16:04:32
I actually got through both Dune movies by convincing myself that Dave Bautista and Stellan Skarsgard were actors worth watching.
By . on 2025-10-13 16:01:38
By . on 2025-10-13 15:53:44
By . on 2025-10-13 15:39:08
Yeah.. not getting into that debate.

I didn't buy the games either, but hardly buy any modern games in any case.
By Lili on 2025-10-13 15:34:51
Additionally, jump in difficulty from V0 to V1 is absolutely none, so there's really no reason to pop any V0 ever if you can pop higher, even if the goal is just a clear for someone's new character. But yeah if you do, no supercharge for you.
By Garuda.Chanti on 2025-10-13 15:34:26
Viciouss said: »
Just write Rowling is a scumbag that no one wants to associate with and be done.
A talented writer nonetheless.

There are many other talented people who have problematical positions or beliefs. Roald Dahl for instance.

One must decide whether to enjoy their works despite the problematical parts or kick their whole body of work into the gutter because of them.
By . on 2025-10-13 15:23:21
Just write Rowling is a scumbag that no one wants to associate with and be done.
By Dodik on 2025-10-13 15:16:33
Idk why you would do it. If you do, that's what happens.
By . on 2025-10-13 15:10:19
When a "journalist" tries to spin that something something tarnished a game that sold 30 million copies...

You know they're full of it.
By Chanti on 2025-10-13 15:07:38
Too wordy, too long, too alarmist and I lasted only 5 minuets.
By NynJa on 2025-10-13 15:05:49
But you dont lose a charge unless youve used an amp? Why would you start charging with two V25s then throw in a V0? Why not finish the charge then do the V0?
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-10-13 15:02:56
By Dodik on 2025-10-13 15:00:30
To mix in a clear for someone else at a lower V without losing a charge. Need at least V1 in that case.
By Nickeny on 2025-10-13 14:47:57
I think it comes down to the direction SE took after Sortie. I remember somebody warned us...

They said the music to Sortie sucked - I remember it - they said they went to Juilliard or something so they know music, but that was the first time we felt discourse to the direction they were taking (besides why is everything is purple)

god damn was he right... that song does suck listening to it again.
By on 2025-10-13 14:24:33
By NynJa on 2025-10-13 14:23:00
But why would you do it like that? Your charge would be V16.
By Shichishito on 2025-10-13 14:13:20
If you're ML50 chances are you bot anyway and you could care less about any EP loss on death.

What people should consider is the exponentially steep EP climb from ML30 upwards that is already grueling and becomes even more grueling due to EP loss from death. It also punishes solo play significantly harder because EP gain is slower solo and you'll encounter more situations where you're forced to home point.

The diminishing returns argument also doesn't hold up anymore if you change your perspective to a ML30 player as there are still some perks to be unlocked from sub job and the stat gain till ML50 is similar to a SU5 neck.
By Shadowmeld on 2025-10-13 14:11:38
Scenario 3:
You have a supercharge on.
You never use an amplifier.
You do 3 NMs, but time out on the last one without dealing >5%

Result:
You still have a supercharge.
By NynJa on 2025-10-13 13:50:27
Lili said: »
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Sheol C: 7F fodder = ~150EP, 7F Agon = ~230EP. Dont have lower floors in my log, I was only able to get these because someone died and they were getting EP again. Its undoubtedly lower on the lower floors as the targets are lower level.
You're not getting good EP in these events.

This adds up to... dunno but I want to say 20-30k per run on an ML50 character, more if you're lower (and/or if you bother to sync at entry, which some groups do). For a 30min run it's not bad at all, and again it's a lot higher if the entire group is at lower MLs.
Youre limited to 30 minutes in Sheol C though. And ~50k/hr is pretty bad.

Someone with an uncapped job can easily *** their EP gains in a Sheol run to give a more precise number though.
By Montigo on 2025-10-13 13:08:17
By Akumasama on 2025-10-13 13:07:02
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
The only way to lose a charge is to use it. That is to say: do 5% or more on a boss above v0, while you have an amplifier buff on.
That was always my belief as well!

Anyway Felgarr I can share at least two scenarios that happened to me a plethora of times

Scenario 1
You have Supercharge on.
You use Amplifier.
You wipe and/or fail to deal >5% damage

Result:
The supercharge won't be consumed
(this happened even multiple times in a row to me, the supercharge didn't get consumed until we managed to deal >5%)


Scenario 2
You have supercharge on.
You're doing a 3 NM runs
The NM you want is scheduled for second.
As such you DO NOT use Amplifier on the first.

Result:
The supercharge will remain and will correctly be consumed on the 2nd NM, when you do use Amplifier.
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