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So, I have the stage 5 Caliburnus and I use it relatively often on my BLU. I can't speak for fully-buffed numbers in Limbus because almost all of my runs in there have been solo with trusts. I do, however, prefer my Caliburnus in Limbus over both Tizona and Naegling, and can consistently kill enemies in about 1 fewer weaponskill. I wouldn't say that the PDL+ helps much at all, all of the benefit is due to the skillchain properties. Basically, Caliburnus is useful as a solo weapon. Once there are other party members weaponskilling the same mob interrupting your skillchain, you're better off using something else.
From sims* and parses (exact numbers are dependent on buffs, attack cap, enemy stats, and TP thresholds), Expiacion falls behind Savage Blade by ~7%, and Imperator falls behind Savage Blade by ~15%. Expiacion makes up for that damage difference with Tizona's AM3 for content where that makes sense to keep up, and Imperator makes up for the damage difference if you can consistently and reliably 3-step skillchain.
*(I understand that the Imperator numbers on the wiki are wrong, so have resorted to parses for those numbers. The estimated numbers that Simon posted recently more reliably reflect what I see in game)
Any prime weapon requires a LOT of time and effort to make. Despite the fact that I actually use my Caliburnus pretty often, I wouldn't really recommend it. The meta for almost all content these days is for 4-6 players in the party to constantly spam weaponskills on the mob, ignoring the skillchain mechanic completely. Caliburnus is not a good option for that (unless there's a weaponskill wall and Savage Blade, Expiacion, and Black Halo are all 'taken' for some reason...). However, if you like to do a lot of content solo on either BLU or RDM, and you love those jobs enough to spend 6+ months building a relatively niche weapon for them, then by all means, it actually comes in handy sometimes.
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By . on 2025-08-24 12:12:11
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From the Ralph Lauren fall collection.
One question: Does it come in RED?
One more: Where's the hat?
Ms. Fashionista Chatty is a new one for me. i
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By mhomho on 2025-08-24 12:12:11
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Drg polearm is S-tier? Oh jesus. . .
Maybe specifically in the case of Drg it's good, but in relation to all the jobs, I'd say there are other DD's I'd rather bring like Drk, War, Sam, Rng, and mages.
I'd put Gay Build at B or A tier. I know you said specifically in relation to Drg, but the tierlist is all the weapons across all the jobs and that includes what the job brings to the table versus what jobs can even wield the weapon to begin with.
Specifically with relation to Gay Build?
S-tier:
Gay Build
A-tier:
Ryunohige
Trishula
B-tier:
Shining One
C-tier:
Gugnir
In relation to all weapons all jobs?
B-tier Gay Build
C-tier Ryu and Trish
D-tier Shining one
F-tier Gugnir
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I would say daurdsbla is D if you make stage 5 prime. It's basically a Shining One when you get Gea Buide. How would you rank Shining One on DRG specifically if you had Gea Buide as S tier?
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By mhomho on 2025-08-24 11:57:14
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How on earth is a bard without both Gjallarhorn and Daurdabla doing enough Sortie and enough HQ Aminon kills to farm a prime horn.
Are we imagining these things in a vacuum or something.
It's like a bard that wants to be main bard to get a Marsyas without either a Gjallar or Daurdable (preferably both).
The progression is there and assumes you already have all the previously good stuff before farming all the better stuff.
Yes, you can farm them on another job. If you want to be the bard though when farming a prime, you need aeonic, relic and empy REMAs for bard. Not optional. Ideally mythic too.
OK, so they are required to be used temporary. Doesn't make them S tier, because then everything you wore before you get best stuff was S tier, because it was temporary bis :)
S-tier:
Loughnashade
A-tier:
Daurdabla
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By mhomho on 2025-08-24 11:54:23
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If you don't like the way the rankings were done here, and you feel this passionate about it, then why don't you make your own thread centered around how you want the comparisons to be instead of arguing here?
That's not how discussions work. That's how narratives are driven. A discussion is not the same as creating a narrative. If your discussion crumbles at the first sign of a dissenting opinion, then it was never a discussion. It was a circle jerk. Why even make a thread if you aren't open to criticism? You even had votes for the individual tier lists. Why is that so much harder than making one list for users to vote on unless you have alterior motives. The individual job threads speak more to the effectiveness of each individual weapon with relation to the job that uses them. The premise isn't what's your favorite job or which weapon do you think is the coolest. It's which is the best?
The same argument you make to me can be said to you. If you don't like it, then leave.
I'm enjoying the discussion. Why would I leave?
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How on earth is a bard without both Gjallarhorn and Daurdabla doing enough Sortie and enough HQ Aminon kills to farm a prime horn.
Are we imagining these things in a vacuum or something.
It's like a bard that wants to be main bard to get a Marsyas without either a Gjallar or Daurdable (preferably both).
The progression is there and assumes you already have all the previously good stuff before farming all the better stuff.
Yes, you can farm them on another job. If you want to be the bard though when farming a prime, you need aeonic, relic and empy REMAs for bard. Not optional. Ideally mythic too.
OK, so they are required to be used temporary. Doesn't make them S tier, because then everything you wore before you get best stuff was S tier, because it was temporary bis :)
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By Asura. Eiryl on 2025-08-24 11:46:50
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Seems as though they've decided not to make a second season of original sin, despite it being fantastic.
Not financial reasons, but they would rather focus on Dexter sequel, than prequel.
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By Genoxd on 2025-08-24 11:45:51
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If you don't like the way the rankings were done here, and you feel this passionate about it, then why don't you make your own thread centered around how you want the comparisons to be instead of arguing here?
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By mhomho on 2025-08-24 11:42:45
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My brd never saw the light of day until recently after having all remas finished. Oh cool, so you made Daurdabla
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By mhomho on 2025-08-24 11:39:47
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Quote it out and make that argument then.
You not argreeing with an individual rating doesn't mean my argument has changed drastically or that I'm flip-flopping. It means people are trying to derail or misrepresent my argument.
Let's do a reading comprehension test. What was the crux of my initial argument? I'll give you a hint:
How are you gunna have a weapon tierlist and then segregate them by aquisition method. I get wanting to compare apples to apples, but if I'm making a weapon tierlist it's going to just be all of them on one list against eachother.
All of the weapons. One list. How do you rate them. You guys are over here like all Aeonics are A-tier. There's no way Khatvanga is A-tier.
I get you guys hate me and can never concede a point to me because of your pride. One game. One tierlist. How would you rank them? None of you have answered that. You've only tried to belittle me for having opinions.
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By Carbuncle. Nynja on 2025-08-24 11:30:54
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So from Afanias rant, I can safely and confidently *** he has no idea what my original post meant.
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By Ragnarok. Zeig on 2025-08-24 11:25:12
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One more: Where's the hat? Still 9th in the line for the chapeau after 3 years of Dynamis, during which an Aegis and an Apoc were made
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By NynJa on 2025-08-24 11:20:49
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This idiots flip-flopping his criteria to suit his argument and its not even being done subtly. Its embarrassing.
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By Jinxs on 2025-08-24 11:11:28
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Gearing geo
Calculator doesn't have an option for flash nova
Someone said it was similar to another weaponskill but I can't find the post
Was it Seraph Strike?
Also that occult set is a cool idea totally copying that.
As well as the TP set with pet out
Haven't even had a chance to play geo yet but does the lupon lose health overtime on its own, not getting hit?
If I am just xping can I get away with a more lax tp set?
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By Garuda. Chanti on 2025-08-24 10:56:58
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From the Ralph Lauren fall collection.
One question: Does it come in RED?
One more: Where's the hat?
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Appreciate you going out to test, that looks promising!
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I'll offer myself as case sample. My ls did smn conduit for our early aeonic runs, I got my Marsyas via cor.
My ls formed sortie group also ran 8boss mage strat, and again I used cor to make my stage4 horn.
My brd never saw the light of day until recently after having all remas finished. I don't even know the singing days before aria ;)
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By on 2025-08-24 10:34:16
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Is there a way to mod the color of the hp/mp bars on the party list & on the top left when engaged? I was thinking it would be nice if the MP bar could be anything other than yellow on greyish white, green would be nice to match the refresh color of the custom UI. Anyone know what dat file that even is in?
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By mhomho on 2025-08-24 08:18:39
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Thank you Dodik for being the voice of reason in the room!
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By Dodik on 2025-08-24 07:40:31
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You have the same ROM in an XIPivot directory and it's overriding it.
Or you have a plugin loaded that changes nameplates.
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »I used no food, or a rusk. I'd rather have more HQs because the t2-3 spheres are much more valuable than the garbage t1s which you end up with way too many of.
57% seems fine, honestly a bit higher than i would've expected. The success rates are terrible.
I switched to macarons early on in my desynths because the hq rate was still very high, but a lot more breaks with rusks. I didnt notice a drop off in hq synths when I switched, but I noticed quite a bit less breaks. I dont have any concrete data on hq vs nq with each food, just the ol eyeball test. I did end up with a lot of t1s tho as you stated, which I did use some and sell others.
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Been doing some messing around with it in Apollyon but it's a bit hard to get realistic numbers because most of the mobs are resistant to or weak to piercing so it's a little wonky. I also messed up my buffs a bit.
I'd say 20~25k is a pretty reasonable expectation, with solid buffs, on a neutral target. Having constant SC with a good (decent) WS makes it much better.
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By cynez on 2025-08-24 07:19:27
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I was wondering if anyone ran into an issue with the nameplates not changing when applying the dat mod but all of the other ui aspects changing. Any possible reasons I may not be considering?
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I only 2box, little more limited in options.
I never stated I wanted to ws spam without sc, quite the opposite, I'm asking about prime damage because of how easy they are to 3step. If my brd stays naegling, sword has savage> burning blade > flat blade > savage, utilizing 2 ***DMG ws I might as well just do 4 savages.
I've even tried sch+geo doing oshala > helix and double burst, usually kills 130mobs unless they are heavily magic resistant like the one floor in apollyon. But that's exhausting to maintain and doesn't work on certain mobs id have to avoid or job change, so it's not practical.
You gave me a dagger 4step, but considering my only dagger pre-prime will be my non-aftergow'd carn, I don't expect much, I'll do a test run of it tho.
For kicks let's speculate, if ruthless did even 25k full buffed am3. And iirc the dt in limbus also affects sc DMG so, 25k + 25k + 20k fusion + 25k ws + 50k light would be 145k DMG combined.
To compare, I said my savage does ~35k, 4 savages would be 140k. So prime would reduce 1 ws and allow me to keep my 2box geo, which then could potentially burst if the mob still doesn't die. Thus improving my efficiency at soloing Limbus.
But, idk if ruthless would do 25k in Limbus, so I was asking anyone with experience if they had the answer. I am no where close to making even stage 3, I think my brd has 300k gally? I forget offhand. But my current next stage 3 is going to be dagger, and I'm deciding to take it to stage 4 or skip and move onto prime axe for BST.
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Violent Flourish is the best use for them on DNC. We gained a ton of MAcc/Acc for it with that release. I keep meaning to run around seeing what I can stun but haven't gotten it done yet.
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People still using Ternion Dagger +1? I probably shouldn't but I still am.
Been slowly replacing it with Gleti in most (but not all) of my sets.
I'm lazy!
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People still using Ternion Dagger +1?
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By mhomho on 2025-08-24 05:59:54
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Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
Not even remotely true. Heishi does 99k every few seconds.
Sure. When you can use Chi or To on an enemy specifically weak to that.
Also, if you're doing a best weapons list, why would you not include primes?
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »
If you're including primes, then daurdabla and gjallar are ***-tier. If you're not including primes then there's absolutely no universe where gjallarhorn is C tier, you sir are high as ***.
So if Ghorn os bad when you include primes (assume F-tier), but good when you don't (assume A or S), then overall would it not make sense tonput it somewhere in the middle? C-tier.
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »You're free to rank things with whatever off the wall scale you can think of, but saying calad isn't good because you wanna play WAR is a wild way to rank weapons, IMO.
I didn't say Caladbolg isn't good. I said:
Would you put Caladbolg in S or A? Caladbolg Drk is really good, no? But Wat is maybe a better day job so Chango goes up in value because war isn't on Caladbolg, but it is on Helheim. So is greatsword War better with Helheim?
So you didn't answer he question. Would you put Caladbolg in S or A?
Where would you put Helheim in the rankings? If Helheim is S. Is Caladbolg also S to you? When you overbloat the S tier it loses it's meaning. It's not because I wanna play greatswodd War over Drk because there's some specific fights where you need Drk to mitigate TP feed to the enemy, no? So maybe in one or two fights Drk outshines War, but overall which weapon are you getting the most bang for your buck. Which has the greatest effective value.
Your average weapon is C-tier. Not A-tier.
You get too emotional and make no rankings. You just say a blanket statement like all Aeonics should be A-tier and I'm like, really? even Staff and Club? That's why I can't take you as seriously objective.
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »As an aside: you can absolutely make a loughnashade without ever making a daurdabla or a gjallarhorn. Bring another job to sortie. But that's not the point of the argument. That's why when you're like, but you can just an Aeonic. You could pay a merc to do most content for you. That defeats the purpose. It's not just what do you need to get it. It's how useful is it to the job as a whole in relation to things like acquisition method in relation time, cost investment, and overall how useful or powerful it is for the job. Six months for an Ergon seems long at first as you have to get Legend in every Coalition, but how long is it to makena Prime? A year? What do you during that interim? Your answer is play other jobs. Truth be told, that's not the right answer because the question is: which weapon is the best; not, how do you jerk off? The reason to consider or call it the interim is because the option never falls off the table. It's not: Daurdabla or Loughnashade (like if you pick one you miss out on the other because a completionist will have all of them). It's, how would you rate them, Daurdabla and Loughnashade in relation to all of the PREMA weapons?
How is Heishi compared to Dokuku? Now compare Heishi to Masamune, Doji, Calad, and Chango?
You're so quick to criticize my evaluation. Share yours. Rank them all in relation to one another.
Do you include Bonanza weapons?
Like sure. Yagyu Darkblade is a cute parlor trick. Fudo Masamune Yagyu Darkblade is a fun tank stance. Does it completely change Nin the same way Epeolatry helps out Run? I don't think so. I'd put Yagyu at C-tier. Maybe B-tier.
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