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I couldn't agree more!

But it's kinda hard when you're in a PUG (or even with friends...) and everybody keeps on engaging your target and spamming Savage Blade or whatever else ruining your awesome chance to two-shot or three-shot targets thanks to SC damage...

What I'm trying to say is: I strongly support Maletaru's point on SC damage, but it's not always something you can rely on, sadly.

Out of curiosity, how many spheres does one need to make a shield?

Ok, now it is 7am, so you guys can resume your bickering.

First I never said Shining one was better... you're the one deleting what I quoted of maletaru saying that I needed qutrubs to cap shining one damage so that you could say no one is saying shining one is bad, maletaru was saying that and that's what I was responding to.

What I was trying to argue (I guess poorly) is the prime lance doesn't seem like a huge outlier as far as primes go once you compare it to what DRG can do with other polearms like shining one, DRG just generally hits like a truck no matter what. Now somehow that has turned into I think Primes are bad because I defended that Shining one is good?

How exactly am I trolling by asking you how much time it takes you to farm ambu.

Still waiting for an answer. You sound like a politician whenever someone brings up pot laws.

Lol weed. Lol farming ambu? Nah I just pay mercs for that bro, what a silly question.

If you're an idris geo and that club don't glow green, you my friend are a gimp.

"But it's not woooorth it", the poor gimp says.

Btw, it is 5am.

You two nerds, get back to sleep .

Well if anyone has not made up numbers, I'm still interested in hearing them :)

I know yous a batty boy

Replying with that face makes you automatically wrong, regardless if you are right!

Gonna defend the slug here, but your reply makes no sense.

He made a point he considered the cast probably too expensive, what is a valid opinion regardless of movie, but you replied like "oh, but is the moviefor you?"

BUT you replied with the following face:

I can see the argument either way, but I personally use null shawl for my TP set. I don't use any of the rest but they could work in a step set if you're doing that (I don't bother).

Belt for idle regen if you're into that kinda thing

Do any of the null pieces find a permanent spot in any of dnc's sets? Or only as situational acc swaps? I guess good to own, to have options when building your sets.

Live look at Afanis tryna dunk on me:

Not accusing Nynja is a tourist but I quickly read blade runner sub and I already see tourists invasion making comments that absolutely don't "get" the core theme of this IP. My head hurts....

Breaks the theme!

Not everyone has been playing for 5 years getting gil every week, tbh.

Is it bragging time tho?

I made up the 30k, honestly. I haven't done BRD melee on the character with the dagger in Limbus for a while. Even if it weren't 30k though, it will 100% without a doubt beat Savage spam.

You can easily do SC without prime too. Mordant Mordant evisceration rudra's is a SC i do all the time. I'm sure there are a bunch more. Anything should beat spamming WS with no SC.

Based on Blade Runner and Blade Runner 2049, yeah I should fall under the target audience.

Theres a difference between a poor and wasting money for no reason.

Poor's have no money.

lol damn you, Male haha.
My WHM cure set is very similar to that but Ebers +2, Queller's Rod, Cleric's +1 and I have different Rings and a different Earring. Cure Pot is capped, Cure Pot II is high without the extra MP Expense (Some Care, Some don't, I prefer not to worry about it)

I've been performing pretty good on WHM so far for the times I use it but it's a job that puts me to sleep so I don't want to push money into it if I don't intend to use it to the fullest?

I did, Senaki didn’t know the answer.

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Too late, asked and answered.

I read that in the volcano insurance salesman's voice

Sir, we need to talk about that most. If you have 3b gil, what on earth are you waiting for to upgrade those +1 necks to +2? I get that I'm a neck salesman so take it with a grain of salt but um...all the +2 necks are better than the +1 necks, you clearly have no use for that gil...why would that most not be an all?

Finally able to actually sit down and reply properly and I see this thing... You hit me with the "No Such Thing As a Free Lunch"??? Really? lol. Clearly trolling, not responding any further to that.

You're right but some players struggle to make larger amounts of gil in short amounts of time. 40m to some of us is next to nothing but is potentially a month or more of grinding for some players so they're going to look at this with greater consideration. Add also that a lot of players DO NOT have the time to "Get Motivated" for this game enough to farm gil beyond whatever they can get from Ambuscade and Odyssey lol.


A little something called Economics? Or Arithmetic maybe? Before I begin, I'll remind everyone of the OP:


The OP appears to want to know which Necks are mandatory to +2 and which ones are just "Nice to have". Appears to want to perform well or adequately but has no intentions of overthrowing any Career Job players? Am I correct in that assumption?

With that premise outlined, let's delve deeper!
A Fully Maxed Out JSE+1 Neck has 80% of the Fully Maxed out JSE+2 Neck's power on average while only spending 25% of the Maximum total cost of a +2 Assuming it's acquired instantly because "Opportunity Cost". That's just good math lol. For the OP's considerations, fewer JSE Necks will become mandatory to +2 for Routine Roll Filling/Casual Play because the differences in a lot of these is very small. You'll still have the key piece but the impact won't be exactly as big as the Career guy but at the end of the day you still won the fight so who cares? So for anyone who doesn't have tons of gil to spend like You or Me, the +1 option looks much more appealing.

Nynja, I believe you might be conflating the presence of a JSE Neck +1 to having one's entire Gearset at lesser quality when in today's meta, that's fairly silly to do? Most job metas presently run off of R/Ex Equipment that must be earned through play instead of purchased. Yes, I goofed on the Abjuration -1 stuff but what jobs are using that right now in any content that matters??? Every job is using some combination of Empyrean Armor +2/3 with some AF, Relic and some Gaol gear in either TP, WS or Nuking so if you or anyone else's DPS is foiled by the choice of a +1 or +2 Neck, you have very seriously *** up. I hate to break it to you but if THIS is what you're losing sleep over, you might be playing the wrong game.


This is probably the cleanest answer to this whole thing; Unnecessary Jabs aside.

Ohhh that's just adorable :) Some of us have been trying to actually give the OP a real answer here but just to humor your little quip, I have multiple mules with capped gil and most of my JSE Necks are +2 and I STILL would not recommend putting out extra money for something you don't intend to use very often or don't care much about.

As I said before, it's only a neck piece and if the rest of the gearset is solid, it probably won't matter much. Unless it's burning a hole in your pocket, there are more efficient uses for your money. Simonses and Maletaru offered some compelling arguments for JSE Necks that are worthwhile to +2 if able so take that under consideration.

I'll leave it alone there, you all have a wonderful weekend.

stop being a poor, bruh

Detective Conan has been around basically since the dawn of time, and that is a highschool boy being turned into a elementary school age. Most people are not aware of it in that show so a bit different, but never noticed awkwardness. But maybe that is just the ever present difference between a boy in that situation and a girl