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I got called dumb cause I wasn't full Perle
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By Odin.Lowblow 2010-07-15 14:46:36
Drg is only job to tp in full set atm
Drk can get away with it also.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-07-15 14:47:53
Odin.Lowblow said: Drg is only job to tp in full set atm
Drk can get away with it also.
It's better for DRK unless you have really expensive stuff like Dusk+1.
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Bismarck.Altar
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-07-15 15:01:50
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Full Perle > anything on DRG, 5hits aside.
Not a drg, but I would think this + wala/3homam beats perle.
Wym. Mail +1
Depending on acc obv.
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-07-15 15:04:36
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Basically use full Perle on DRG/DRK 80DRG/40DRK awesome job combination you thought of there:D
souleater+last resort your jumps :3 and nearly kill yourself with drakesbane or w/e you use
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-07-15 15:11:30
Bismarck.Altar said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Full Perle > anything on DRG, 5hits aside.
Not a drg, but I would think this wala/3homam beats perle.
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Depending on acc obv.
What you use to get your 6-hit (and thus also what polearm you're using) influence this pretty heavily, but you'd need a fairly high level of haste to make Wyrm+1/Timarli worthwhile.
Bahamut.Zorander
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By Bahamut.Zorander 2010-07-15 15:16:33
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Basically use full Perle on DRG/DRK 80DRG/40DRK awesome job combination you thought of there:D souleater last resort your jumps :3 and nearly kill yourself with drakesbane or w/e you use ...
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-07-15 15:22:06
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Bismarck.Altar said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Full Perle > anything on DRG, 5hits aside.
Not a drg, but I would think this wala/3homam beats perle.
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Depending on acc obv.
What you use to get your 6-hit (and thus also what polearm you're using) influence this pretty heavily, but you'd need a fairly high level of haste to make Wyrm 1/Timarli worthwhile.
Not to mention Ive never seen drg body -1 drop. We can only speak in generalizations, this is being situational.
I think the average(well slightly above average) drg with ares body and homam comes out slightly under perle. 5ish less atk and 2 less str or something? Someone add them up for me.
Main point being, unless ur fighting something where your acc is capped AND you have a haste body then full perle is pretty much the top for drg atm.
The haste+4 hands/legs can change that though and bring it back to a mixed set, but i'm not sure what jobs can wear them.
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Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2010-07-15 15:23:25
2 Timarli body
4 timarli hands
3 Homam legs
3 homam boots
5 turban
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17% haste
Granted I have no idea where to get Timarli but it's the logical next step so homam is still a valid goal even if you have full perle.
Asura.Solara
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By Asura.Solara 2010-07-15 15:28:05
There are a couple things I find interesting about Perle for DDs.
1. It erases the line between poorly geared characters and average characters, because anyone from the bottom through mid tiers can afford it.
2. It makes gimps even easier to spot, because the choices now are Perle or better than Perle. Anything worse is now completely inexcusable due to easy access. (I'm looking at you, War I saw in WG today with 4/5 Perle, Woodville Axe, and Askar Head.)
3. It makes better geared players easier to spot, because they won't be wearing Perle or gimp stuff. (Drg don't count for this because... well Drg don't count in general.)
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-07-15 15:29:51
I'd take a full perle sam, but calling someone an idiot for not wearing full perle is stupid.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-07-15 15:30:52
http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/?topic_id=11915 for DRG-based old gear comparisons.
Full Ares:
STR12
Atk33
Full Perle:
DEX +14
Accuracy +15.5
STR +22
Attack +41.5
Critical hit rate +2%
Comparative stats only, Perle wins by
14DEX, 15.5acc, 10STR and 8.5 Attack.
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-07-15 15:31:18
Bahamut.Zorander said: Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Basically use full Perle on DRG/DRK 80DRG/40DRK awesome job combination you thought of there:D souleater last resort your jumps :3 and nearly kill yourself with drakesbane or w/e you use ... :D i know he's talking about wearing full perle is good for drg and drk :3
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By Helix 2010-07-15 15:36:17
I know I dont know shiz, but it seems to me that if you are trying to avoid emnity+ that a mix and match with perle/dusk, walmart turban and swift belt is a win...
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-07-15 15:38:17
Helix said: I know I dont know shiz, but it seems to me that if you are trying to avoid emnity that a mix and match with perle/dusk, walmart turban and swift belt is a win...
Avoid enmity? Pretty good trolling, subtle and not outrageous yet it will set ppl off. Oh, you anon accounts.
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Quetzalcoatl.Volkom
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2010-07-15 15:38:33
why mix/match with perle...if you're not wearing the full set to melee in, then whats the point in having the set other than to ws?
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Seraph.Rafik
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-07-15 15:41:02
Helix said: I know I dont know shiz, but it seems to me that if you are trying to avoid emnity that a mix and match with perle/dusk, walmart turban and swift belt is a win...
are you on drugs or something, cause homam and usu have some +emnity gear and so does cerb mantle.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-07-15 15:43:12
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said: Helix said: I know I dont know shiz, but it seems to me that if you are trying to avoid emnity that a mix and match with perle/dusk, walmart turban and swift belt is a win...
Avoid enmity? Pretty good trolling, subtle and not outrageous yet it will set ppl off. Oh, you anon accounts.
You're a ***. He openly admitted he doesn't know much when he said he doesn't know ***, but he wanted to give his opinion to try and help.
And that is what you came back with? Jeez, get a grip and try and help him where he's wrong instead of talking absolute crap and trolling yourself.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-07-15 15:46:02
It's Samuraiking, what do you expect?
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By Helix 2010-07-15 15:48:49
I'm only anon cause i'm too lazy to update my account after server merge...
Seraph.Rafik
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By Seraph.Rafik 2010-07-15 15:49:16
Shiva.Flionheart said: It's Samuraiking, what do you expect?
I was surprised that he didnt go all emo on the DRK greatsword thread. I know how much he hate greatswords...
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-07-15 15:50:16
Seraph.Rafik said: Shiva.Flionheart said: It's Samuraiking, what do you expect?
I was surprised that he didnt go all emo on the DRK greatsword thread. I know how much he hate greatswords...
I was banned when that thread was alive, but I kept rating every one of his posts down because it was making him rage so much.
lolz.
By Helix 2010-07-15 15:51:16
I guess i'll apologize...I try to avoid emnity whenever possible...sorry...I thought maybe that was why he wasn't wearing full set of perle
Remora.Helix
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By Remora.Helix 2010-07-15 15:52:50
There, that better?
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-07-15 15:53:25
Odin.Dirtyfinger said: Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said: Helix said: I know I dont know shiz, but it seems to me that if you are trying to avoid emnity that a mix and match with perle/dusk, walmart turban and swift belt is a win...
Avoid enmity? Pretty good trolling, subtle and not outrageous yet it will set ppl off. Oh, you anon accounts.
You're a ***. He openly admitted he doesn't know much when he said he doesn't know ***, but he wanted to give his opinion to try and help.
And that is what you came back with? Jeez, get a grip and try and help him where he's wrong instead of talking absolute crap and trolling yourself.
If you say something HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, you are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and get treated as such. Don't try to help anyone if you don't understand any game mechanics. The point has already been made to the OP, this is now just a discussion thread about the stats. Since he doesn't understand them he doesn't need to post here.
You whine a lot like a gay guy. You wouldn't happen to be a homosexual would you? I mean judging from your avatar I'd assume so.
Shiva.Flionheart said: It's Samuraiking, what do you expect?
Also, the irony. :(
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Lakshmi.Aurilius
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2010-07-15 15:53:38
If I started this game a couple months back and I didn't have a lot of endgame gear, I'd be rocking full Perle like a boss.
It helped to get some of the players with less time fairly up to par.
It's a decent set for incredibly cheap. However, the person that called you dumb is a moron. We are surrounded by them, so get used to it.
Remora.Helix
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By Remora.Helix 2010-07-15 15:54:43
And no, i' no one special, just an ignorant fool that reads these forums and tries to learn from them
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By Gilgamesh.Samuraiking 2010-07-15 15:56:08
Shiva.Flionheart said: Seraph.Rafik said: Shiva.Flionheart said: It's Samuraiking, what do you expect?
I was surprised that he didnt go all emo on the DRK greatsword thread. I know how much he hate greatswords...
I was banned when that thread was alive, but I kept rating every one of his posts down because it was making him rage so much.
lolz.
9/10 of my posts are rated down by idiots I bash and the liberal hippies that shed tears for them. Why would I care? I actually told ppl to rate me down as well in a few threads. If i'm gonna get -rates I might as well see how far I can go, i'll even rate myself down. No penalties incur from it. lolz.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-07-15 15:56:23
But yeah, I wouldn't worry about what samuraiking says, he just starts saying random HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE crap and then falls back on calling people homosexual when he disagrees with them.
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Bismarck.Rellz
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By Bismarck.Rellz 2010-07-15 15:56:25
Kindve late to this but full perle is crap for sam whoever called u dumb cuz u didnt have is a moron
Head: WS macro if anything
Body: Good for TP if u dont have Hauby+1
Hands: Eh these arent great to use if u dont like dusk tho this is alternative
Legs: good if u dont have bysakko haidate
Feet: Good for Wses
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-07-15 15:56:47
Gilgamesh.Samuraiking said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Seraph.Rafik said: Shiva.Flionheart said: It's Samuraiking, what do you expect?
I was surprised that he didnt go all emo on the DRK greatsword thread. I know how much he hate greatswords...
I was banned when that thread was alive, but I kept rating every one of his posts down because it was making him rage so much.
lolz.
9/10 of my posts are rated down by idiots I bash and the liberla hippies that shed tears for them. Why would I care? I actually told ppl to rate me down as well in a few threads. If i'm gonna get -rates I might as well see how far I can go, i'll even rate myself down. No penalties incur from it. lolz.
>Implying ratings mean anything
Am I missing something that a lot of sams on my server are catching on too? I'm not big headed, I looked at the set when it came out and it didn't look that great for sam but maybe I should look again?
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