i'm so sad that i have to go to work right now
hopefully this thread will still be rockin when i get back
Rajas Vs Sattva?
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Rajas Vs Sattva?
Caitsith.Shiroi said: So you are saying that a blue berry pld can keep up to a pld spamming atonement in proper TP gear? that's about what he's saying, yes incidentally, judging from his comments/equip history, i wouldn't trust his judgment on which paladins in his sky ls had "good" or "bad" gear ok that's enough gotta go to work :( Shiva.Flionheart said: I guess that's opinion. I'd far prefer a tank who knows what gear to use and when, over one who uses blurple gear full time even if he was slightly less skilled in game. And that's your opinion. I don't exactly agree it with it, but that's your opinion. Caitsith.Shiroi said: So you are saying that a blue berry pld can keep up to a pld spamming atonement in proper TP gear? A bright red cherry paladin, or the whitest of white PLD could perform the same job as a "top geared" PLD. "Better" gear just helps with what they do, and make it easier. It's like a SAM with and without Rajas. A SAM without Rajas could have a 6-hit, but lose 3 haste. A SAM with Rajas, will have 3% more Haste. Either one could do better than the other, depending on other factors. Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Rajas, Rajas, Rajas.
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Cerberus.Scruffumz said: It's like a SAM with and without Rajas. A SAM without Rajas could have a 6-hit, but lose 3 haste. A SAM with Rajas, will have 3% more Haste. Either one could do better than the other, depending on other factors. If everything else is the same but gear, then the one with better gear wins every time.
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said: Caitsith.Shiroi said: So you are saying that a blue berry pld can keep up to a pld spamming atonement in proper TP gear? that's about what he's saying, yes incidentally, judging from his comments/equip history, i wouldn't trust his judgment on which paladins in his sky ls had "good" or "bad" gear ok that's enough gotta go to work :( And if you want to go there, I will gladly explain everything. The gear when you click my profile, is my PDT and running around set. Equip history, do you even know what I have augmented on mission gear, etc? I can also go whip up a couple of item sets just for you to show you how I gear my jobs. I'll send you all my gear sets, after I finish creating them.
Cerberus.Scruffumz said: A bright red cherry paladin, or the whitest of white PLD could perform the same job as a "top geared" PLD. "Better" gear just helps with what they do, and make it easier. When you get into recast times and Enmity on Ni and Flash, there's really no argument about whether or not a PLD who macros in Fast cast, Haste, and Enmity will be out-performing a PLD who casts in their Adaman gear and/or AF - in that one will be generating considerably more enmity per action while also increasing the frequency at which the actions can performed (not to mention they will have shadows up a larger percentage of the time).
Similar story for a PLD who macros in Shield Skill+ gear for Ichi and shadows-down situations. There's simply no argument to suggest that a PLD with poor gear and macros can keep up.
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the whole skill > gear argument is getting old
Quit comparing yourself to other people and think what you can do to improve yourself. Basically the skill of yourself is equal to yourself, so therefore you with better gear will > you with worse gear.
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Cerberus.Scruffumz said: A bright red cherry paladin, or the whitest of white PLD could perform the same job as a "top geared" PLD. "Better" gear just helps with what they do, and make it easier. I agree. As much as I don't think a paladin needs top of the range gear to do well, he does need to know how to gear correctly.
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I thought the key words here were: "proper use of macros" and "proper use of gear swaps."
What are the chances that a player with bad gear will have "proper use of macros" but specially also "proper use of gear swaps" ? Not likely IMO. Skill and gear should come with proper use of gear swaps and macros. IMO, player skill comes with knowing about your job, what gear to use, and specially knowing and using appropriate macros, and appropriate gear swaps for your respective jobs ! If that's not it, then what other "skill" are you talking about? The ability of a player to hit the attack button and those kinds of basic game functions ? Perhaps we have different standards/views... but come on...
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If you don't want to macro, could get away with tanking anything in this and surviving, think about your ramparts
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Fenrir.Mankey said: If you don't want to macro, could get away with tanking anything in this and surviving, think about your ramparts Pro. Fenrir.Mankey said: If you don't want to macro, could get away with tanking anything in this and surviving, think about your ramparts well you automatically get hit for 0 and have max enmity at all times by having double sattva alone.
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Asura.Rule said: Situational Also impossible. Asura.Rule said: Situational Fenrir.Mankey said: Asura.Rule said: Situational Shiva.Flionheart said: Asura.Rule said: Situational Also impossible. what i mean by that is, i won't TP in sattva but i sure as hell wouldn't rajas in a /war build >_>
All 5 pages are full of LOLZ
Cerberus.Scruffumz said: All 5 pages are full of LOLZ agreed Pages 1 and 2 were better.
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Pages 1 and 2 were better. Asura.Rule said: Fenrir.Mankey said: Asura.Rule said: Situational Shiva.Flionheart said: Asura.Rule said: Situational Also impossible. what i mean by that is, i won't TP in sattva but i sure as hell wouldn't rajas in a /war build It may be because I'm ignorant to pld gear, but isn't there better rings than the Satva /war? Midgardsormr.Soki said: the 5% store tp on a rajas with a sword will not proc any tp. PROC = Programmed Random Occurrence There's nothing "random" about Store TP Tactical Points Calculations yea... PDT rings >.>
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Fenrir.Mankey said: yea... PDT rings >.> Therefore Sattva isn't situational? Therefore there is never any reason to get it? even if you full time /war? Sattva ring ONLY use is to be in a cure macro or rampart if you didn't want to buy x2 Soil if you are that hardcore into being a perfect PLD, other then that there is always a better option or one thats equal to and doesn't replace your Rajas
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