Samurai is one of the few jobs that Could-have benefitted from the 8% haste Tiara, actually bringing them to the Haste cap finally, but anyone who actually knows where the strength of Samurai is, would, as you people have, find it to be pointless.
I haven't run the numbers though, but maybe the Body+2 allows Non-Masamune (Particularly Hiraddenotachi+2) SAM to use the Tiara, because of the Added Delay?
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Optimal set for SAM? :>
Odin.Zicdeh said: Samurai is one of the few jobs that Could-have benefitted from the 8% haste Tiara, actually bringing them to the Haste cap finally, but anyone who actually knows where the strength of Samurai is, would, as you people have, find it to be pointless. I haven't run the numbers though, but maybe the Body+2 allows Non-Masamune (Particularly Hiraddenotachi+2) SAM to use the Tiara, because of the Added Delay? Correct i guess, for a 450 delay Gkt. Haste: You can cap with Zelus, dusk +1, Goading, usu boots, and those 7% haste legs. TP: using af3+2 body, usu boots, WT, Rajas, Brutal, Hoard Ring, Goading, Tactical Mantle, Unkai Nodowa, Rose Strap That should be 20.9 TP a Hit, allowing for almost free WS (Brutal/Rajas/Rose) and capped haste with a 5 hit. Odin.Zicdeh said: Ew, Samurai has to avoid a lot of Nice new stuff to keep that true 5. No atheling mantle :( TP phase: Used Amano 90 because that is what i have. With Unkai mimikazari over white tathlum, you get exactly 100tp after WS + 4 hits, your choice. WS: Use whatever you want for the others slots. Can use better legs like Hachiryu or Usukane legs for Kaiten because you get STP+7 aftermath which is the same as Unkai haidate +2 STP amount. Why goading belt you may ask? Because attack +35 DA+3% ( difference with tactical mantle) > haste +2% and negative stats on bullwhip belt for TP phase, that is if you care about outside abyssea content.
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Asura.Hotin said: Why goading belt you may ask? Because attack +35 DA+3% ( difference with tactical mantle) > haste +2% and negative stats on bullwhip belt for TP phase, that is if you care about outside abyssea content. Is this true? >_> I've always been told to stack haste in any place you do not need STP. Dunno why we're talking about the negative stats on Bullwhip as if they mean something ever, but Atheling + Goading can beat Tactical + Bullwhip, especially with low buffs.
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[30 days between previous and next post]This is my TP build, still working on the +2 head and body and I sometimes use a Pole Grip depending on how my crit rate (fully merited too) is going that day. I normally run VV, RR, and Apoc in Abyssea. I usually crit stuff for 450+ on most hits I land
WS Gear for Gekkos since I'm working on my Masamune still. No Twilight Helm just yet. I was curious if I should bother switching to my Unkai Sugemino for WSing since it seems to me that the additional STR would be better than just keeping the Atheling on. Gekkos go anywhere from 1700-3800. I get yelled at for ruby light a lot. :p Any advice on how to improve either build, besides the obvious stuff I already said I was working on, would be appreciated. get a masamune and then play your monk
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With that GK - Sword Strap & Bullwhip Belt as you're way over 5hit.
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: get a masamune and then play your monk Pandemonium.Ironguy said: get a masamune and then play your monk I do play my monk. He's my blue proc machine haha. Odin.Dirtyfinger said: With that GK - Sword Strap & Bullwhip Belt as you're way over 5hit. Cool. I'll definitely give this a whirl next time I use my SAM. Good thing I already had a Bullwhip Belt handy.
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Carbuncle.Nobusagi said: No Twilight Helm just yet. Ok yea so what? Why does Twilight helm matter for an already Capped ACC WS, when you have a higher STR and attack helm already? Considering your acc is essentially capped in 99% of the game situations when you use Gekko or Fudo, why wouldn't you?
and I love how you included the acc from dex on Twilight but neglected to add the attack from the 2 str.
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ilu Tiger <3 Seriously tho, Newer does not = Better People drive me insane, the first hit of EVERY weaponskill has 95% ACC whether you choose to belive it or not. As for sam, I don't use sam in abyssea, but if I'm capping on mnk, which only gets .5 acc per dex rather than .75, I don't really see my sam ever coming close to having a problem with accuracy.
Also, as previously stated, there's the acc bonus for the first hit of every ws. Now it's not guaranteed 95%, but it's a *** lot of acc. Only situation i can really think of where it isn't going to be 95% is if you lv sync to 75 vs nidhogg and ws w/ blind up from his wing move. As for the latter question Only fstr caps, WSC (ws mod) has no cap at all, so if you came to a cap at acc, attack, and fstr, str is still going to win because it still adds dmg because of it being a ws mod.
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The acc boost was enough for when I did my blind potion test having melee acc of 50%, I'd still have 95% hitrate on ws.
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: Fenrir.Gradd said: People drive me insane, the first hit of EVERY weaponskill has 95% ACC whether you choose to belive it or not. There have been many tests proving that its true(using blind pots on very evasive mobs), I am sure Ironguy and many others will back me up with it, if you are denying it then you are just being ignorant. Its a HUGE accuracy bonus for every first hit of a Weaponskill. 99% of the time it is. Very very few situations where it's not. The nidhogg example I gave earlier being one of them.
Bismarck.Josiahfk said: I wasn't denying the accuracy boost of a weaponskill. Your claim of 95% for a floor was surprising though Acc is still important on your double attack/triple attack procs on your ws, however with cruor buffs any small lacking % on your acc that you might have will be covered with the 50+ dex(37-52acc ie 18-26% hitrate inc) that you get. Had a quick read through and didn't see any sets posted with Hira +2 (450 delay) so was wondering if you guys could help me out let me know whats needed to maintain 5 hit through TP and WS phase.
Here is current TP set: and current WS set: I haven't really used SAM much lately cause it hadn't been used since abyssea...but have gotten few pieces for it here n there and this is what i got so far.. Would what I have be enough? Or would i need to ditch Ace's Mufflers and/or get AF3+2 body or White Tathlum or Belenos Mantle? Been a while since I played with SAM x-hit builds. cheers guys. Pretty sure Light Belt doesn't work for Fudo.
Odin.Zicdeh said: Pretty sure Light Belt doesn't work for Fudo. Wasn't what I was asking lol. Unless person who edited wiki is a dumbass, which would make me a dumbass for believeing wiki..... http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Light_Belt says so it does right there. Anyhow, was after 5 hit advice thanks ^^ Dusk Gloves, Hoard Ring and White Tathlum put you @20.1 so you might have to eat Carbonara depending if you use VV atma. Possibly Carbonara & Tactical outside Abyssea, but haven't looked.
Edit: Definitely Atheling Mantle for WS. Valefor.Ryukuro said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Pretty sure Light Belt doesn't work for Fudo. Wasn't what I was asking lol Maybe it should be lol ps: hi and, if you're even too lazy to merely use that calculator and put the appropriate gear in accordingly, tah-***-dah mind you though, i've also got another atma combination, that being rr/griffonclaw/apoc, which tbh i prefer over vv/rr/sq these days for what i do, but both are workable Odin.Dirtyfinger said: Dusk Gloves, Hoard Ring and White Tathlum put you @20.1 so you might have to eat Carbonara depending if you use VV atma. Possibly Carbonara & Tactical outside Abyssea, but haven't looked. Edit: Definitely Atheling Mantle for WS. Soooooo +33 STP will put me at 20.1? What about WS phase? without VV would fail right..? |
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