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 Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-12-06 17:55:52  
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
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And what have you done to support any cause you believe in?

i attention *** bands i like :/

And I'm sure that that has very little influence on the bands you *** out.

That's a hell of a lot less than what those script kiddies just did; your one voice doesn't mean jack ***, but by banding in numbers--even to do something futile and meaningless in result--still shows the world that there are mussels to be flexed.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-06 17:56:02  
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In the end, it's a publicity stunt and gains attention for whatever cause they may support. But like that old saying goes: There's no such things as bad publicity. The fact that it gets attention (good or bad) will in turn turn the wheels of influence in their favor.
CLOSING STATEMENT, I AM RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG!
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-06 17:57:45  
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
And what have you done to support any cause you believe in?

i attention *** bands i like :/

And I'm sure that that has very little influence on the bands you *** out.

That's a hell of a lot less than what those script kiddies just did; your one voice doesn't mean jack ***, but by banding in numbers--even to do something futile and meaningless in result--still shows the world that there are mussels to be flexed.

Anyone you can physically see and identify as a living breathing human is pretty much ruled out of the anon-ship.
they become the voice of the guy wearing the guy fawkes mask in the green shirt with the one sign, or the one in the red shirt with the one sign.
they no longer lose all anonymity and you can't see them as a unified consciousness in the same way as forced anonymity on 4chan would be.
That's essentially my big bone to pick.
I don't give a ***if they band together.
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2010-12-06 17:58:07  
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
And what have you done to support any cause you believe in?

i attention *** bands i like :/

And I'm sure that that has very little influence on the bands you *** out.

That's a hell of a lot less than what those script kiddies just did; your one voice doesn't mean jack ***, but by banding in numbers--even to do something futile and meaningless in result--still shows the world that there are mussels to be flexed.
Gogo Mussels! Flex!

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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-06 17:58:25  
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
And what have you done to support any cause you believe in?

i attention *** bands i like :/

And I'm sure that that has very little influence on the bands you *** out.

That's a hell of a lot less than what those script kiddies just did; your one voice doesn't mean jack ***, but by banding in numbers--even to do something futile and meaningless in result--still shows the world that there are mussels to be flexed.
and what the hell does that even mean?
i know the rest of the stuff the whole "banding together deal", the only part i don't agree with is the fundamental contradiction of value.
banding together and being anonymous does not compute.
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By Artemicion 2010-12-06 18:00:21  
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Artemicion said:
In the end, it's a publicity stunt and gains attention for whatever cause they may support. But like that old saying goes: There's no such things as bad publicity. The fact that it gets attention (good or bad) will in turn turn the wheels of influence in their favor.
CLOSING STATEMENT, I AM RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG!

I think we both concluded on the same generality.
The only difference is I see an end to this stunt, and you do not.
And by end I mean objective/purpose.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-12-06 18:00:53  
Ragnarok.Blindphleb said:
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said:
And what have you done to support any cause you believe in?

i attention *** bands i like :/

And I'm sure that that has very little influence on the bands you *** out.

That's a hell of a lot less than what those script kiddies just did; your one voice doesn't mean jack ***, but by banding in numbers--even to do something futile and meaningless in result--still shows the world that there are mussels to be flexed.
Gogo Mussels! Flex!

Good one, I'm starving and exhausted lol slipped through
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-06 18:01:38  
Artemicion said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Artemicion said:
In the end, it's a publicity stunt and gains attention for whatever cause they may support. But like that old saying goes: There's no such things as bad publicity. The fact that it gets attention (good or bad) will in turn turn the wheels of influence in their favor.
CLOSING STATEMENT, I AM RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG!

I think we both concluded on the same generality.
The only difference is I see an end to this stunt, and you do not.
And by end I mean objective/purpose.
What do you mean with this.
The vaguest of statements.
what purpose do you see?
what do you see happening with this purpose?
i thought the whole wikileaks thing was inevitable as well as it already has a ***ton of publicity.
i don't really think it needs the ANONYMOUS BUMP.
Wikileaks already has the:

Colbert BUMP!!!!!

anonymous is just rousing for more attention just for the sake of gaining attention.
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By Artemicion 2010-12-06 18:02:55  
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and what the hell does that even mean?
i know the rest of the stuff the whole "banding together deal", the only part i don't agree with is the fundamental contradiction of value.
banding together and being anonymous does not compute.

Well that's the interesting duality of it. They're essentially banded together by cause, yet have no correlation or direct forms of communication between each other as individuals. It's almost like a hive mind concept. But ya, it does end up being a living oxymoron when you have an organization guised as an anarchy but runs on a communication network with like minded individuals.
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By Artemicion 2010-12-06 18:04:19  
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Artemicion said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Artemicion said:
In the end, it's a publicity stunt and gains attention for whatever cause they may support. But like that old saying goes: There's no such things as bad publicity. The fact that it gets attention (good or bad) will in turn turn the wheels of influence in their favor.
CLOSING STATEMENT, I AM RIGHT YOU ARE WRONG!

I think we both concluded on the same generality.
The only difference is I see an end to this stunt, and you do not.
And by end I mean objective/purpose.
What do you mean with this.
The vaguest of statements.
what purpose do you see?
what do you see happening with this purpose?

It was in the OP.
They want attention from the masses and for others to make information and perhaps opposition so widespread that it cannot be contained, controlled, or obstructed by any administrative level.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-06 18:05:20  
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It was in the OP.
They want attention from the masses and for others to make information and perhaps opposition so widespread that it cannot be contained, controlled, or obstructed by any administrative level.
i amended my post a bit more, you may refer to that and edit accordingly.
or you can tldr it and just go with
COLBERT BUMP>ANON BUMP
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By Artemicion 2010-12-06 18:08:34  
Ah yes, in the end the objectives are on the same foot.
Only difference is Colbert has a much wider target audience and has significantly more orthodox and funnier methods of doing this.
Sadly, Anon's options are limited to the nativity of /b/ and doing silly things like denial of service attacks that ultimately accomplish nothing but annoyance and negative publicity.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-06 18:09:59  
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Ah yes, in the end the objectives are on the same foot.
Only difference is Colbert has a much wider target audience and has significantly more orthodox and funnier methods of doing this.
Sadly, Anon's options are limited to the nativity of /b/ and doing silly things like denial of service attacks that ultimately accomplish nothing but annoyance and negative publicity.
that's my exact point, you can say the "objectives are on the same foot", but honestly it's just a method of getting more attention on "anonymous", it's not really there to help Assange regardless as to how much it is asserted to be.
It's as self-serving as ever.
now people are trying to make it more politically relevant.
hell they did the Scientology thing after tom cruise and others right?
these aren't campaigns for the greater good.
they are simple publicity stunts under the ruse of being publicity stunts for something already very well in the public eye.
they want to bring more attention to "anon" because of as I said before they have the attention *** aspect.
the whole difference between what it was originally was this foreign concept called "fun"
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By Siren.Flunklesnarkin 2010-12-06 19:07:00  


:o

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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-06 19:07:46  
the onion?
i can't watch video on my work computer, but i see the little onion symbol.
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By Siren.Flunklesnarkin 2010-12-06 19:10:48  
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the onion?
i can't watch video on my work computer, but i see the little onion symbol.

yah its fake.. i still found it funny tho >_>
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By Kujata.Daus 2010-12-06 19:23:03  


Im calling it now, watch there be a wikileaks movie!
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-12-06 19:27:40  
Assange was already leading the 2010 Person of the Year votes before Anonymous ever got involved. They're not going to have much impact.

Honestly, it makes the most sense. The award has never gone to the best or worst person, but rather the one that single-handedly makes the biggest personal impact on world news for that given year.

At this point, it's hard to argue that isn't Assange.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2010-12-06 19:27:47  
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Im calling it now, watch there be a wikileaks movie!

the sad part is it's probably true, who's going to star in it?
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By Kujata.Daus 2010-12-06 19:35:46  
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Im calling it now, watch there be a wikileaks movie!

the sad part is it's probably true, who's going to star in it?

various disney channel stars!
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By Gilgamesh.Thedreamer 2010-12-06 20:32:09  
Funny thing in all this is: if it was a papernews who would have do all this, no one would had care and journalists would be protect by laws.

Now its websitenews, everyone care and one guy have to run for not get stop by peoples tryin to screw laws for their interests.

All this story just showed how internet is no more an free space of talkin, but an etablished political medium...with double edge and no laws...
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-12-06 21:11:40  
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
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Im calling it now, watch there be a wikileaks movie!

the sad part is it's probably true, who's going to star in it?

Michael Cera, DUHH
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By Quetzalcoatl.Selim 2010-12-06 21:12:08  
This is kinda like the time those Rebels blew up the Death Star, darn kids these days.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-12-06 21:57:18  
I was laughing too much while trying to read the OP's post, funny ***. But yeah, there is a war coming guys.
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By Unicorn.Helenaagogo 2010-12-06 22:09:18  


you guys want to cyber troooooool?
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By Luz 2010-12-07 06:08:15  
Assange has been arrested.

Pick your link :X
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-12-07 06:09:47  
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Assange has been arrested.

Pick your link :X
does anyone believe those sexual allegations in Swedenland?

I don't.
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By Luz 2010-12-07 06:11:50  
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Luz said:
Assange has been arrested.

Pick your link :X
does anyone believe those sexual allegations in Swedenland?

I don't.
Nor do I.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2010-12-07 06:15:13  
Luz said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Luz said:
Assange has been arrested.

Pick your link :X
does anyone believe those sexual allegations in Swedenland?

I don't.
Nor do I.
<Evillookingsuit>:"Hey, you're gonna have to change your story to get him back here. So here's what happened, he anally assaulted you in the copy room."
<Innocentfool>:"Um, no he didn't."
<Evillookingsuit draws gun>
<Evillookingsuit>:"Yes he did."
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