Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?

Vyre kun, the "R" isnt even close to the "L" to claim you fat fingered the key.

You simply were not "pure" at the time of the writing!

Two separate things. Or actually one and several.

1, Selling a program he didn't have and wasn't going to develop. I admit he did clean it up a bit after acquiring it.

2, Blatantly copying code and hiding behind a wall of lawyers came later and often. He didn't have the wall of lawyers in the early days. I think that tactic peaked around MS DOS 3 - 5.

Gates sold "MS-DOS" when he didn't have it, then went and bought Q-DOS to re-badge it as MS-DOS so he could sell it.

It's not illegal, just unethical. Surprising no one, companies don't give a frak about ethics.

The lawsuits came later when everyone else that did not sell an OS to IBM realised they could have made a whole bunch of money. Too late.

I understand he here as bill gates, the program as CP/M. But what I dont understand is the last bit.

The deal falls through with CP/M so bill gates pivots and successfully acquires all rights to 86-DOS(aka. QDOS) and then develops PC-DOS which is then sold to IBM.

The big "stealing" claims stem from an argument that 86-DOS(aka. QDOS) copied code from CP/M and that DIR's lawyers had forensic proof, yet they never assert their claim beyond that point.

The article I linked early makes the claim in 2012 that there is no evidence that CP/M code could be found in MS-DOS, it does not claim that is true of 86-DOS.

A wise man once said “if youre not cheating, youre not trying”.
He was also a fictional character so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

So Chanti are you saying the only way to succeed in a capitalist society is to lie/cheat/steal?

no, I would say she is saying it is the easiest way not the only way. Humans do like the easy way though

No, just its dead common in most societies. Capitalist societies are not excluded.

Economically we do not have capitalism anyway. What we have is a fascist economic system. This is NOT the same as a fascist government although I think we are headed that way.

Yes and yes but. I was not referring to to the CP/M 86-DOS brewhaha in the stealing comment. See #2 in my previous post. I can expand on it later if needed.

It's more like every 100 dollar rich people make, someone around them(their employee, their shareholders) makes one dollar with them. But they are still making money.

A big company can have tens of thousands of shareholders. That's a lot of people making money with Bill Gates.

Business is competition, sure. And some people may lose money in the field of business if they lose the competition. You always have the choice to not participate in running a business and just work as an employee, buy stocks of winners in the market (like google, Microsoft or SP500) with your salary and make money with them.

I would say even if capitalism game losers exists, the winners still greatly outnumbered the losers. Otherwise you'll see more people in poverty than middle class in a country with successful companies and good economy. But that's clearly not the case.

52% of people in the US are in the middle class, 19% in upper middle class v.s 11% living in poverty.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/16/are-you-in-the-american-middle-class/

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2024/demo/p60-283.html

The large amount of people successfully become middle class via capitalism is already enough to justify the existence of this game


I didn't lose the game, as I didn't live in poverty. According to data 71% of people who played the game has successfully become middle class or higher and I am one of them.

Define success....

If success means gaining tons of power, winning every competition, become the top 1% etc then you probably have to use certain "tricks" that's unethical to some at one point in your life. We are all adults, we know it's often unavoidable in life.

If success means having a comfortable live as a middle class people, you probably don't need to get yourself involved in that ***as much.

I don't know when the slang for "cake walk" became exactly what it sounds like, but it's my new favorite thing for a bit. Cake walk is the most perfect descriptor, ever. It's exactly that. Watching cake(s), walk.

Gatcha booty

I grew up middle class in a post war middle class neighborhood. I had a maid. So did all but one family in the neighborhood.

Where is your maid? Why are there so many billionaires today? These questions are interrelated. We all lost. Even those who, in your definition, are winning.

From the black community in antebellum New Orleans.

I was hoping I wouldnt have to hear that as an opener for a while.

It's actually true for Chanti, though.

The slug probably grew up in a middle class family

by slug standards.

Nynja has entered his slug obsession arc. This clearly means he will team up with Hideo Miyazaki and give us the Slug Princess that was originally supposed to be in the place of The Doll in Bloodborne.

I guess we have different definition on what it means to "win" the capitalism game.

To you only "billionaires" are winning, everyone else are losers.

To me as long as I long as most people are living in the rank of middle class it is considered a win. To me it is not "losing" unless you live below the poverty line.


Is "maid" even a standard of middle class these days? Lol. I know a few hired one for their house because it felt good I guess? Personally I don't see a strong reason to hire one...yet.

what do they do that's useful? Cooking? I live in the city so if I need to eat I spend 5 min walk down the city street for food. Cleaning house? My house doesn't need cleaning everyday. Though if it really needs cleaning hardcore I can hire a janitor for 3-4 hour or something.

I don't think there are enough "jobs" in the house to justify a manpower for it tbh.

I'll take up the Bloodborne 2 mantle since Sony has an aversion to making easy money.

Bloodborne would have been the perfect candidate for PS5 Pro demonstration, alas. Still thinking about getting one even though I don't own most of the compatible games atm.

Unrelated, my desktop wireless keeps cutting out but I never lose connection on PS5. I've reset the router, network adapter, restarted PC. Anything else to try?

Look for updated wireless drivers.
Is there any potential interference between the desktop and AP?
Does the desktop wifi have antennas that arent connected?

Why is your desktop not wired in?!?

Because I only play FFXI really, which is pretty lenient about maintaining connection. Probably should get a cable but meh. I do have antennae connected and checked drivers in device manager. Only really started today usually is fine.

if you've done no diagnostics at all, run a wlan report by opening an admin command prompt and typing:

this will generate a html file you can open that will graph your recent nic activity, which can be useful to distinguish between whether the connectivity is dropping or the adapter is entering abnormal states

if it is connectivity, there are still things you can do. you can consider changing to a different channel on your router (this is likely to help if you are experiencing interference from other wireless networks in the area; if you're in an apartment or densely populated area that's more likely)

if you don't need the fastest connection possible, and only need it to be stable, and there are multiple walls between your router and your pc, you can also consider using 2.4ghz network as it has better penetration than 5ghz (but it does reduce speed)

if it's abnormal states and low power, make sure power management settings don't allow your NIC to be shut off, and update drivers (you should try this regardless if you haven't, it can fix a lot of things)

would also note that if you're perceiving disconnections based on ffxi disconnecting.. it might not be your network at all

No I'm losing browser connection and discord too. trying that now, thank you.

Lots of errors, I uninstalled the devices in device manageer and restarted to let it find them again, same thing. I still am obviously connected sometimes, just keeps dropping.

Almost certainly bad drivers or dying NIC. Start by looking up what card you have and getting the latest drivers from the manufacturer's website [be very sure here that you have the correct drivers]. Uninstall all existing drivers, install the latest drivers.

If that doesn't fix it, odds are you need to replace your NIC. You can get a PCIE one pretty cheap(under $30), and they aren't that hard to install. Or, if you're able to run an ethernet cable and use that, even better.

Just for the sake of proper process, would also verify that a different device is able to maintain connection from a similar location, as well. It doesn't really sound like a network strength issue though, since it came up out of nowhere and you haven't mentioned any issues with your other devices.

Dying NIC was gonna be the next option if all drivers were up to date.

Theres a slim chance he hasnt done this as described. It looked like he deleted the drivers from device manager and rescanned and downloaded from whatever MS Update pulls from. 9 times out of this this will get the latest, but to be sure you should go right to the manufacturer site.

No. But it once was. Then again gas went for 29 cents / gallon in expensive areas back then too. I would add that today millionaire is merely upper middle class and they STILL can't afford maids.

In my case let my mom sleep till noon and indulge in painting.

We agree on this.

The problem with this outlook is that it worked fine in the past, so if it's a driver issue, the issue is being caused by the driver windows fetched during an update. So, a discrepancy between the correct drivers from MFG and the ones windows is providing is almost guaranteed if something like this occurs suddenly on an existing device and is caused by drivers.