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By Afania 2025-03-21 11:23:47  
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No I'm saying if someone was trying to cure that form of cancer because their investors thought it was a good way to make a strong quarter and recover from a bad public showing or image, it would not be empathy based.

Multiple reasons behind an action can co-exist on the same time. But Does it even matter what's the real driving force behind the action? If the end result is the same, that's all that matters.

I don't really care if someone invest in cancer research for moral/empathy reason, money reason or PR reasons. I only care if this research has successful increased average human lifespan as a whole.

If someone wants to contribute because empathy, great for them. Doesn't erase the contribution of people who contribute for different reasons.
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By Josiahafk 2025-03-21 11:37:38  
Afania said: »
Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
No I'm saying if someone was trying to cure that form of cancer because their investors thought it was a good way to make a strong quarter and recover from a bad public showing or image, it would not be empathy based.

Multiple reasons behind an action can co-exist on the same time. But Does it even matter what's the real driving force behind the action? If the end result is the same, that's all that matters.

I don't really care if someone invest in cancer research for moral/empathy reason, money reason or PR reasons. I only care if this research has successful increased average human lifespan as a whole.

If someone wants to contribute because empathy, great for them. Doesn't erase the contribution of people who contribute for different reasons.
oh interesting. you made the argument that the billionaire is more likely to contribute to humanity as a whole, and when I responded in kind stating the empathy-based billionaire is more likely to chose that type of action to contribute to humanity as a whole, and the same point no longer seems to hold weight with you.

Is a higher chance important to you or not?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-03-21 12:05:08  
Afania said: »
How many billionaires out there purposely go out of their way to cause tremendous suffering and poverty? And what did they do? Give me some real examples please.
Without putting much thought into it: Musk. The Sacklers. The Krupps. If I can name corporations the list would be much longer.
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By Afania 2025-03-21 12:10:44  
Josiahafk said: »
oh interesting. you made the argument that the billionaire is more likely to contribute to humanity as a whole, and when I responded in kind stating the empathy-based billionaire is more likely to chose that type of action to contribute to humanity as a whole, and the same point no longer seems to hold weight with you.

Is a higher chance important to you or not?

Huh? I didn't deny the power of empathy as one driving force. But I don't know if someone takes an action, it's 100% empathy based or 50% profit based + 50% empathy based or other combination like 30:70 or 60:40. This kinda of things can't be measured with data.

I only said when someone takes an action, it's frequently because multiple reasons. Someone can research for profit and empathy.

One thing that I know for sure, if you hire a talented researcher and give him 0 or little money to work on the next cancer research project. They may feel motivated to work in the beginning because of empathy, after months and years they may eventually burn out.

IMO, other benefit is still an important driving force for actions.
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By Afania 2025-03-21 12:13:09  
Garuda.Chanti said: »
Afania said: »
How many billionaires out there purposely go out of their way to cause tremendous suffering and poverty? And what did they do? Give me some real examples please.
Without putting much thought into it: Musk. The Sacklers. The Krupps. If I can name corporations the list would be much longer.


What'd Musk do that exploit millions and made them suffer tremendously?

All I see it's just him posting political ***on X and fire employees, is listening to his political ***really "tremendous suffering for millions people" lol?
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By Pantafernando 2025-03-21 12:43:07  
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-03-21 19:20:27  
The dog implores us to talk about other things! Like kibble or perhaps bacon.
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By Asura.Narr 2025-03-21 20:09:45  
https://www.twitch.tv/ashcrow232

DQ10 maybe we play caisno with the LS soon
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-03-22 09:27:21  
Cloudflare turns AI against itself with endless maze of irrelevant facts

New approach punishes AI companies that ignore "no crawl" directives.


They have invented the anti AI AI tool. I can see this degenerating into a recursive spiral of an anti anti AI AI programing duel. And do remember that AI is doing coding now ...
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By Bismarck.Josiahflaming 2025-03-22 09:34:21  
Wife wants cranberry juice and it shouldn't be this damn hard to buy

I just want to buy some cranberry juice, it doesn't need to be fresh squeezed, from concentrate it's fine. But I dont want a trillion grams of added sugar, or a trillion grams of sugar replacements, or a blend of 5 fruits, come on grocery store chain jesus


Just let me buy straight cranberry juice with nothing else added already
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By RadialArcana 2025-03-22 09:35:38  
The only reason they are doing this is because AI companies suck text out of websites for training, and they want to sell it (or just save bandwidth). This is just cloudflare trying to sell the ability to stop AI companies doing that.

Every post on XIah has been sucked up by all the AI companies for training for example.
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By Pantafernando 2025-03-22 09:38:48  
My mother just creeped me out..

She told me she was trying to remove her lens yesterday.

But it was being somehow harder to do than normal.

She tried to force to remove the len of her eye when she noticed her lens was already over the table.

It really runined my day this story. I just hope she didnt hurt her eye too much, past the point of self recovery.

She said her vision is cloudy. I told her to look for a doctoer next week.
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By RadialArcana 2025-03-22 09:44:27  
Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
Wife wants cranberry juice and it shouldn't be this damn hard to buy

I just want to buy some cranberry juice, it doesn't need to be fresh squeezed, from concentrate it's fine. But I dont want a trillion grams of added sugar, or a trillion grams of sugar replacements, or a blend of 5 fruits, come on grocery store chain jesus


Just let me buy straight cranberry juice with nothing else added already

You'll prob need to goto a health food store or something, supermarkets are only gonna sell it with added sugar.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-03-22 10:22:17  
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Every post on XIah has been sucked up by all the AI companies for training for example.

Maybe it can make sense of who the actual world first of every master trial is.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2025-03-22 11:35:07  
Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
Just let me buy straight cranberry juice with nothing else added already
The answer is cranberry juice concentrate.
Sorry. Its either that or buying your own cranberry bog.
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By Josiahafk 2025-03-22 11:56:09  
When you said that young lady I pictured, "okay I can just buy it in the frozen aisle like the cans of frozen orange juice concentrate. I will check that different aisle next time" but the link was like "try me ***, 54 dollars."
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By Asura.Eiryl 2025-03-22 12:00:04  
Oh! nevermind that *** garbage. They make a Pure version. It is literally just cranberries and water. This is what I want now!

5 freedom bucks at walmart

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By Kaffy 2025-03-22 12:04:07  
i get the wally world brand of that zero sugar cran, good stuff
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By Asura.Vyre 2025-03-22 17:42:31  
Heh, haven't heard Wal-mart referred to as Wally World in a while. :)
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By Draylo 2025-03-22 18:53:44  
Why do these ppl think we solo every content with trusts still? I think we now have our own version of boomers that climbed up the hills in snow to get to school

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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2025-03-22 22:04:34  
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I just watched a video that spoilered all Hunter x Hunter past the point I dropped it (because I was waiting it to be concluded).

Maybe for a good reason. That video had the objective of analyzing Gon as a character.

While at first glance just a typical shonen protagonist, strong, innocent and dumb, when you look at his context (being a kid abandoned by his father), the obsession to find the father meaning how he is still hurt by that despite not voicing it, the way how he idolize his father, as an attempt to cope his situation, the many kamikaze attacks being used showing how little self steem he has because exactly being given up by his father, all that shows a deeply complex and dark character that is not innocent and dumb as I thought at first, but being dumb and innocent is only a way to mask how deeply injured he is in his heart.

Kinda amazing understanding the message being exposed in front of me, but only noticed when you stop seeing the story for what it tell and start seeing if for what it is.

I completely get the gist of the Gon arc what destroyed my experience when i reread Hunter x Hunter, but considering im too dumb to get the hidden messages in things, im forced to admit that it was worth
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In the end, HxH is a story about a kid accepting the abandonment, dealing with so many complex feelings, and eventually moving on.
Curious which arc you stopped reading at.

Regarding the Gon character analysis, I think this take is reading too much into Gon's character (and I understand that a lot of people enjoy that in fiction). He's not intended to be that deep. Check the timestamped part from an interview with Togashi (10:23 if the timestamp doesn't work):



Pantafernando said: »
Only sad thing in Gon story is how little he cares about his biological mother.

Despite once his father almost telling about her to Gon, he quickly dismissed it. His mother was his aunt. He didnt need another motherly love.

This adds another layer to Gon complexity. Both his father and mother abandoned him.
HxH spoilers:


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Great story, btw
My opinion on HxH took a nosedive after going through the latest arc. He needs an editor to rein him in.

Edit: indeed, timestamped URLs don't work.
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By Bismarck.Josiahflaming 2025-03-23 01:18:39  
Asura.Eiryl said: »
Oh! nevermind that *** garbage. They make a Pure version. It is literally just cranberries and water. This is what I want now!

5 freedom bucks at walmart

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71KU6MNRgeL.jpg
wow I did not expect walmart for this lol
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By Pantafernando 2025-03-23 01:21:26  
Back then, chimera ants was ongoing so I stopped right at the end of Greed Island, when Gon meet Kaito.

According to the spoiler, that Gon dark side worsened when Kaito was caught by Neferpitou, and when after that, I was definitively creeped out when I saw Gon expressions, actions and thoughts. He was definitively broken the the outcoming of Neferpitou and Kaitou, that manifested throught the fight he was definitively not ok in his mental, and I dare said if this was not a shonen, he would be lost forever.

About reading too much, I think the greatest stories are the ones who allows for multiple ways of interpreting it, and is written so good that every interpretation is feasible and valid. Definitively HxH is a masterpiece of story, you can watch it as a basic shonen, and that is fine, then when you reread it when adult you start seeing another interpretation, so its like watching another story with the same story,

At first glance, all main cast can be read as basic shonen heroes, Gon being the innocent and dumb kid, Killua being the cool bad boy and Kurapika being the smart and cold guy. But its also valid each of them had situations that, in real world, would definiively leave psychological scar in real humans: Gon was abandoned by his father and is so obsessed to find him that he is willing to give up his integrity. Killua is abused by his family and seek in Gon the psychological support to suppress his depression. Kurapika had his entire village killed, and he also gave up all his own existence to his vendetta.
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