Casual Player Looking For More "hardcore" Set Ups

Rationalizing is the easiest thing the human brain can do.

guy stopped reading after numbers came out. You can't want to stop being casual. casual is a lifestyle, its learned and won't go away easily

quick help to what you are wearing now

go full perle

you loose 3 +2 +5% haste from not having the last two perle options
walahare gives you 5% so you ar downn 5% haste

furthermore the perle pieces would gives you
STR +5 VIT +5 Attack +7
+
STR +4 DEX +3 Attack +10

and from your rvg gloves you will loose
STR +7 DEX +7
Accuracy +9


so bassically comparing you current gear to fullperle you are lossing
5% haste
2 str
17 attack
to gain
4 dex and 9 accuracy

so go go full perle for you, until you get better gear

I stopped reading there. WAR Af3+2 is super easy to get, especially compared to other jobs.

um i think the first thing would be lvling subjobs the only thing you have 49+ is dnc right now, or is that site outdated?

yes i know it hard to learn.

by try reading the enire post specially "so go go full perle for you, until you get better gear"

his current setup is worse than full perle
he can get full perle in less than 3 minuttes

that way faster than getting ravagars done and its cheap/free

my advice was valid for a quikc improvent thta would help him until he works on his real gear. It shouldn't be to hard to understand that you have gear on you while you try to get better gear.


anyway back on topic

OP should drop the rose strap it does nothing for you

you are war/dnc and need at least 3 more store tp in you current build to get from 8 to 7 hit buildt

so with or without rose strap you are 8 hit build and ws just as slow.
The slot might as well be emty

even if you sumeru has store tp on it
you still ovet shoot with store tp and can take it off

go get polegrip its cheap and will help you alot more than wasted store tp.


my advice is built on whta you can do now just when you log on before going out and do stuff for you real gear.


another option is to get hoard ring with store tp +4 that way you are down to a 7 hit build with you rose strap.
tha is assumign you sumeru is not a store tp Gaxe. If it is hoard ring does nothing for you and you should again toss rose strap and get pole


---- EDIT ----
OMG price has changed on poelgrip
last time i saw it was 5k now its 100k

ok instead of pole try going for sword or claymore both will hlep better than your rose strap and you cna use swordwithout reducing you xhit build

Nope just the /dnc
And I'm currently working on it to get 90dnc/mnk or /nin

i think war/sam is the best sj for dd atm, not sure if /nin is better for tanking in aby
and i think cop missions are easy to solo/duo? at lvl 90 to get rajas ring and brutal earring etc (if you didnt know)

/NIN sucks for tanking. Even /MNK is better then NIN sub if you can't /SAM :/

content aside

jesus christ you are butchering the english language hard

I AM A SLAYER OF WORDS AND BUTCHER OF LANGUAGES >.>

Worst part is i actully edited the worst out, but it was late and i was tired.

Lose: Taking away, not winning, failing. Loose: not tight, easily undone. You meant to say "lose".

"would give you", "basically", "losing"

Not being an ***, but I tried to point out some things that you might just plain not know as compared to internet mistakes.

pretty sure OP bought his character

Thank you for the lose/loose ima try to remember that.
i have issues as well with pronouncing properly and probably.

anyway most of it was plain out me being tired and lazy.

Well I hope he didn't pay much. Doesn't even have a decent sub aside from DNC on the character.

why do you ask for advice

get some advice you can do fast

refuse to do it and instead waster 340k on a new gaxe ?

Pretty sure the absolute best possible TP setup is:

where the Armada Hauberk has 6 STp and 2% double attack. Not saying it's an easy set to come by, just that mathematically it is tops. STp is an exact 6-hit (macro in a Regain Moonshade if you miss a hit of Ukko's to make up missed tp) and haste is at cap (26% visible).
I'm still missing the E.Body and N.Sash atm, but as expected, these two pieces are taking the longest to get.

Edit: @Loneshadow
Ravager's Calligae +2 only have 10% crit damage bonus.
You may be thinking of 20% retaliation damage bonus, which are also on these feet.

Edit2: @Gaiarorshack
Grammar aside, the advice given by this person to OP is spot on. Based on OPs current gear, the quickest upgrade they can make is going full Perle. I know, I know, we all cringe at this, but I seem to recall when this gear was released and nobody had it yet everyone thinking it was the absolute ***and snapping it up off AH for 2-3M a piece when the first couple pieces finally made their way to the AH.

not sure that would be the best tp set.
first of all the rings latent effect you need more then 100mp to get he triple attack

instead of nin sash use goading. that makes you lose one haste but get 5stp

remove oneros ring and use blitz rings to regain the haste
we are now down 3 acc but up 5stp

change tahlum with ravagars gorget
We are now down 3aac but get 3stp 2 str and 8 attack

which would maybe help a bit on the missing swing (i don't know did not calculate it)
But i would sacrifice 3 acc for +2str and 8attack today since we are accuracy cap'ed alot

or if not exchange it to firebombletinstead of ravager and get 3 acc and 6attack over your build



all this is ONLY of you don not fulfill the rings latents effect

Just one fix here: The DA on armada goes up to 3, not 2.

Will an NQ Ebody with 4 stp and 2% DA still be better to tp in than anything else? :( noobish to war and thats what i have.

I'm pretty sure Rancor Collar tops Ravager's, but I don't want to be on the receiving end of any form of damage with it on. Also, I wouldn't touch Oneiros ring with a ten-foot pole.

@Koll: Under the assumption that you are stat-capped, making use of the acc/attk and STP, E. body is the best with +2% DA, yes, but it's marginal.

Tyty, I just want to make use of it :)

I'm not particularly positive of the ODD jump from 3/5 to 4/5, but if it's approximately 1%, it will be a more potent 1% than DA. So DA would win out with 2%, but not by much at all.

And you'd need to macro in Ravager's Lorica whenever you Blood Rage for the additional 30 second bonus, which overall would increase your entire PTs effectiveness more than 2%. If you don't macro it in, you'd be losing out more than you'd gain.

Ravager's has more acc than Ebody, not less, and if you're not making use of the attack then you wouldn't with Ravager's +2 either.

I'm honestly not sure what you're trying to say here, but bearing in mind that DA will offer a small increase in set bonus procrate, create more opportunities for ODD procing, and increase your TP gain, I'm not sure why you think 1% ODD is better than 1% DA.

So there's no point in Ebody? :/

The point is, an increase in DA rate will prove more beneficial overall (faster Tp build, higher DoT, greater chances of triggering the ODD effect) than an increase in the ODD proc rate alone.

I didn't mean to infer that, actually. I should've left it at simply stat capped.
Conversely, 1% ODD also embosses every % of DA by increasing the ratio it can happen in. EDIT: However, in messing with the math, the DA itself would actually beat out the 1% ODD in the long run. Thanks for the correction.

TP in your ebody.


You wouldn't be wsing in your af3+2 body anyways. It's what sheelay said.

Oh no, I'm arguing for Ebody lol. It's a great piece with augments, use it.

It seemed like you were aware of that but weren't fully accounting for the benefits of DA, so I left it out. Goal is 2% (maybe 3% with Armada) so it's not of great significance anyway.

If anyone cares, this is the math I worked out, for an optimal situation.

Base gear, (Ravager's Cuisses included for set proc), 5% DA merits:

1000 swings -> DA rounds -> ODD procs

21% DA, 3% ODD.
1000/210/6.3 ODD

20% DA, 4% ODD.
1000/200/8

+11% DA from Brutal Earring, Atheling Mantle, Ravager's Gorget, Ravager's Earring
32% DA, 3% ODD
1000/320/9.6

31% DA, 4% ODD
1000/310/12.4

1% DA pulls ahead because it gets 10 extra swings, while 1% ODD only gets three extra ODD strikes. In order for ODD to pull ahead over DA, a WAR's DA rate would have to be over 50, and even then it would only compare to DA, while not rivaling it because of TP gain. Considering the fact that Adaberk/Armada can get 2-3% of DA, it trumps the ODD by quite a bit.